Yes Boris is a buffoon but........

[Anotheronebitesthecheese]

NC as I know I will get flamed and also because of opinions around me personally and the vitriol I know I will receive from my point of view. I wanted to know if there are others out there.

So....... First of all, I despise all the shit that has happened 're partygate / watching porn / groping and sexual misconduct massively. I think the Tories in general have been scrum of the earth, thinking they can get away with vile behaviour and thinking they are untouchable.

What I do think (which I know On mn is blasphemy) is that Boris is a great PM that has balls. He obviously lacks in other areas like keeping grown elected men and women in his party under control and not behave like horny teenagers on their first holiday! They are the ones I worry about, he may have been a soft touch boss but surely the party could see that and his strengths were elsewhere? The fact he didn't crumble when the odds were against him. The party are showing their true colours now and I hate the Tories but respect Boris more. go hate me

I think the OP would rather like a Strong Man to knock all our heads together , shake the country up.a bit and get rid of those pesky kids whining about honesty , probity and the rule of law ...and elections .

🤣🤣🤣🤣 no wonder you name changed.

You've been on tiktok too much young woman.

Supporting Boris but can't really say why he is great apart from a possible sharing of ND .

It's quite depressing reading this. OP, BJ is not a buffoon. He's a dangerous psychopath. He hasn't delivered anything well, not the pandemic, not brexit and not the cost of living crisis. He only cares about being in power. He has showed that he has zero compassion, morals and integrity, and even if you don't care about that, he's not even performed well on economics or foreign policy.

And bleating on about Starmer being as bad is just a cop out.

If you really think this, why not post under your own name? Why hide behind a name change?

if you want to conflate neurodiversity with narcissism then speak for your bloody self. I’m ND too. That prick, Johnson is in no way comparable to any of the ND people I know. He’s a thick skinned narc.

Plenty of people were prevented, by Boris Johnsons own laws, from seeing their parents. They physically couldn't get to them in care homes and hospitals. Parents, partners, children, siblings, died alone because of his rules. The rules that he chose to ignore whilst he had drinks and gatherings galore. So whilst uou personally were able to see your parents, thousands of others were prevented from doing so. How can you still defend him and want to have a drink with the man? Just because it didn't affect you personally?

People DO understand your point. You're not some great sage with complex theories that we're struggling to comprehend. You're just spouting gibberish at a Daily Mail style level.

His leaving speech was his finest moment. If he'd behaved more like that during his term, he wouldn't have been in the position of actually having to make such a leaving speech.

He doesn't give a shit about women. He ridiculed Muslim women, told a male colleague to just pat women on the bottom and did nothing when an MP was caught watching porn at work and sexually harassing women. I'm delighted that he's publicly saying that men can't be women but let's be frank, a 5 year old could tell you that too.

@QueenOfHiraeth

My question is where are the civil servants these days and what are they doing? I thought the "Sir Humphreys" were there to advise and guide politicians while remaining neutral and acting in the best interests of the country yet this government seem to have careered from one cock up to the next amid endless untraced leaks and shambles. As an example, if a minister is asked did he or she know something or what happened, surely, civil servants would have meeting minutes, etc and could inform them? How is everything so shit if they are doing their jobs properly? Were they advising and being ignored or, more worryingly, were they not doing their jobs right and undermining an elected government?

Have you not been listening properly to the news? The mail in Johnson’s coffin was when a very senior civil servant, Lord MacDonald, went on the BBC Today programme to say that Johnson was lying about having known nothing about Chris Pincher’s conduct. MacDonald knew first hand exactly what Johnson knew, and could not sit back and let him get away with lying about it.

This is not a case of scatterbrained ministers not being properly advised by civil servants! It’s a case of ministers deliberately cutting the civil service out of the process because it’s too inconvenient to be reminded of the truth.

Call me picky, but I expect my prime minister to be truthful and have integrity.

Boris has a defective personality incapable of change.

What was great about it exactly?

He came out and whined that the cabinet were all stupid and compared them to sheep. He didn’t apologise for any of his lies and then bleated about how he really loved his job and was sad to be forced out.

Then some meaningless platitudes about Britain having a golden future. The end.

There are many, many neurodiverse people who still manage to be decent, honest, responsible and hard working members of society.
Do not use that to excuse him

@Anotheronebitesthecheese I need a like button for your original post

Only read the first few replies (before wanting to hang myself) this thread is mainly full of woke lefties

OP, please read the excellent posts from @OhMerde.
Seriously.

OP you're right! And the lefties will hate this post but it's all true!

but surely the party could see that and his strengths were elsewhere? The fact he didn't crumble when the odds were against him

He did though, he didn't have to resign, he could have stayed on and called their bluff & gone for the vonc.

Do you think Keir would have had the balls to achieve what he has? I doubt it. With the right people behind him he would have done a much better job

err he appointed the people around him.......

What has he achieved?
Vaccine rollout stalled once AZ was blocked for under 30s and we then had to emergency order Pfizer, UK took a risk with an untried vaccine.
Ukraine? any PM would have backed Zelenskyy.
Brexit? yes it had to happen but why make such enemies with our closest neighbours?
oh yes talking of brexit, bojo is a remainer BUT chose to support Leave to gain power.... principled he is not.

lol its the rightwing of the Tory party that has forced Bojo out, unless you think Steve Baker MP is a leftie sleeper?

By balls I guess you mean courage (with masculine overtones).

Courage can be a good characteristic in a politician when it is used to further a valid goal. Johnson certainly is prepared to break the rules and outrage people, but it was only ever about increasing his own power rather than achieving a goal.

On the pandemic, the government got lots wrong but the vaccine roll out was a success. Satisfied with his response on Ukraine.

I'm curious though about how he "delivered Brexit". Given he was elected on his Brexit promises, how do supporters feel he has kept those promises? Which bit was successfully delivered? He's trying to change the protocol, other border checks are being implemented elsewhere, trade deals aren't materialising. Genuinely interested in why people think he successfully delivered Brexit.

He absolutely promoted it from the outset. He was one of the main spokespeople for it and architects of the PR campaign that resulted in it. He's been banging on about EU bureaucracy for years as part of his 'journalism'. As such he's in large part responsible for our skills shortages, economic downturn, scarcity of goods, massively increased bureaucracy at ports and airports (oh the irony!) and all the rest of the shitshow we've been left with.

Having balls, even if it were true, is absolutely no good if the decisions you take are useless. If self interest is your main driving force.

He also doesn't show any signs of being ND that I can see. Lazy and narcissistic traits, I'll give you that. But it's a new approach for BJ apologists, I'll give you that!

Doesn't mean he can't be shit at his job though, does it?

This is my view too. I also highly dislike the recent presidential view of himself that completely undermines our own democratic system and the presentation that it’s him and him alone that is supporting the Ukraine. He isn’t acting on the UK’s behalf, he’s acting like a regent.

@Anotheronebitesthecheese I don’t hate you, you have a stance which I disagree with and, despite lots of explanations from you and others, I remain mystified by. I simply don’t see what your seeing.

Op- give 6 clear examples of how BJ has been a ‘good pm.’