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Yes Boris is a buffoon but........

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Anotheronebitesthecheese · 09/07/2022 00:36

NC as I know I will get flamed and also because of opinions around me personally and the vitriol I know I will receive from my point of view. I wanted to know if there are others out there.

So....... First of all, I despise all the shit that has happened 're partygate / watching porn / groping and sexual misconduct massively. I think the Tories in general have been scrum of the earth, thinking they can get away with vile behaviour and thinking they are untouchable.

What I do think (which I know On mn is blasphemy) is that Boris is a great PM that has balls. He obviously lacks in other areas like keeping grown elected men and women in his party under control and not behave like horny teenagers on their first holiday! They are the ones I worry about, he may have been a soft touch boss but surely the party could see that and his strengths were elsewhere? The fact he didn't crumble when the odds were against him. The party are showing their true colours now and I hate the Tories but respect Boris more. go hate me

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Anotheronebitesthecheese · 09/07/2022 01:34

I wasnt actually going to say this as I know I will get massively flamed....

I as a ND person suspect Boris is also ND...... There I said it out loud!

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Lillygolightly · 09/07/2022 01:36

Define what a great prime minister is?

It sure as hell isn’t Boris!! I think he has been fired from every job he has had….FOR LYING!!! I am not sure why anybody thought him being PM would be any bloody different!

People who defend him say things like yeah but he has CHARISMA but charisma does not make for a great PM, it makes for a great salesman and that’s all Boris is, and I think even that is generous! If he were not born with the wealth and privilege he has he’d be a cracking salesman for EE or some dodgy double glazing company and I still doubt he could even manage to hold down those jobs for very long, because just like being PM he would be put up with for his amazing sales figures (see 80 seat majority) but he would fall flat on his face and get booted out by HR for to many acts of insolence and gross misconduct. It is just who he is!!!

If I have to hear well he got Brexit done (no he didn’t it’s still on going with a boarder we didn’t want!) one more time!!! Oven ready my arse!!!

Levelling up! See not levelling up actually…lots now staying just the same despite having been promised, especially in the north!

So many other empty promises I can’t even be bothered to waste my time mentioning. He’s like that guy you meet who promises you this amazing night of passion, convinces you to drop your panties by selling you on all the amazing orgasms he’s going to give you and when it comes finally time for him to deliver on his promise you get three pumps, no orgasm and a mess to clear up!!!! Worse still the next day he is so deluded he still going on about his HUGE MANDATE and expects you still be impressed, wants his breakfast cooking and doesn’t have the good grace to just leave and hang his head in shame and admit his pitiful performance! Just piss off man and leave the country in peace for god sake!!!

windthatbobbin · 09/07/2022 01:41

Honestly, you don't sound like a horrible person, but if you can't see that this is the worst, most talentless government in memory (history?) and that he has nothing but word salad, you really should read some history.

The country is on its knees.

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Anotheronebitesthecheese · 09/07/2022 01:43

windthatbobbin · 09/07/2022 01:41

Honestly, you don't sound like a horrible person, but if you can't see that this is the worst, most talentless government in memory (history?) and that he has nothing but word salad, you really should read some history.

The country is on its knees.

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TheDuchessOfBeddington · 09/07/2022 01:46

OP I’ll stick my head above the parapet.

I don’t think he’s the best leader of all time. But….

I think he knows what a woman is.

I think he is flawed, as many people are, and is not afraid to admit it.

Deep down, I believe he is a libertarian, just like I see myself as.

He was against the lockdowns from the start. I know they broke the laws by having parties etc. But so did I. I visited my elderly parents, at their request, due to their loneliness, during the lockdown.

So if I was to meet him, I would have a pint with the guy.

Flame me as you see fit!

YellowSparrow · 09/07/2022 01:53

I genuinely don't know how anyone can defend him or think he's done a good job.

Yes all politicians seem to lie but Boris and his party have taken it to a whole new level.
As for "getting Brexit done" that's like when my partner is determined to get a piece of DIY done at any cost to prove his manliness......it still looks like a dogs dinner and is a load of balls but I have to pat him on the back for doing it then get someone else in to fix it later at a massively inflated cost!
Don't even get me started on the pandemic and all the money wasted on chum contracts to buddies for things that were completely unfit for purpose.
The country is in such an abysmal state at the moment. He and his party have had 10+ years to make things better and look at where we are!
I honestly think in years to come there will be criminal action taken against them all. What they've done to this country whilst they've been in power is criminal!

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Anotheronebitesthecheese · 09/07/2022 01:54

Boris has balls, he might have the worst advisors ever! What I am saying is with the right people behind him I think he would do a better job than the drip that is Starmer! People aren't understanding my point. I would rather have a PM with balls with a great team behind him rather than an insipid, hindsight, no actual plan but can name call like a trooper and I can do it better but has yet to actually say what that is he can do better! If you get my drift.......We all complained about labour! I wish we could have a better choice but we dont! They are all shit. I would not feel safe with Starmer if WW3 broke out, that is me you have the right to feel otherwise obviously

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LemonSwan · 09/07/2022 01:54

Tbh I thought he was a good pm.

He can’t solve everything, he’s the front man not the cogs.

And really if I look back if my of the other solemn faced dreary fuckers had told me week in week out that I had to stay in my house for multiple years I might have just jumped off a cliff.

No idea how but I do think he managed to make it slightly more bearable. He looked as terrified and confused and as disappointed/ pissed off with the science as the rest of us.

And I thought his leaving speech was good. He could of kicked his toys out the pram and called an election to spite those who couped but he didn’t. He did show some integrity there in my eyes whether people like it or not.

apintortwo · 09/07/2022 01:54

Boris is a great PM that has balls

I think this pretty much sums it up. He bowed down to no one and got on with the job (whatever was thrown at him, Brexit, Covid). He wasn't afraid to speak his mind and fend off the mobs.

LemonSwan · 09/07/2022 01:56

*any of the other solemn

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 09/07/2022 01:57

Okay. I'll bite.

Your post is completely contradictory and ridiculous. Johnson's disregard for integrity, morality, the truth, the rule of law, the country is exactly why Partygate/Porngate etc happened. The fact he's been a cataclysmic shite of a PM enabled those around him to be cataclysmic shites too.

The man is a dangerous menace and to diminish that and say he's just a bit of a buffoon is spectacularly blind. To say he's, "A great PM" means you haven't actually thought about Partygate et al at all.

And the fact you've name changed shows you're scared to even own this utter codswallop you're spouting. Shame on you.

Aria999 · 09/07/2022 02:00

If by balls you mean courage then no, he doesn't.

The only courageous decision he has made was to help Ukraine. Other than than he just lies his way out of difficult situations. E.g. Ireland situation after leaving the EU. Or 'I wasn't at the party'.

If you mean he likes to have sex with women then sure....

VaggieMight · 09/07/2022 02:03

He dealt with a pandemic

This is a complete myth. He denied there was any risk initially. He was shaking hands with covid patients, locked down too late, killing many 1000s unnecessarily, had no plan, hid from the media, eventually when it got really bad he gambled on vaccines. That gamble paid off. But it was a gamble. It could have potentially been a huge waste of money. On top of all the other money that he squandered over covid.

Ted27 · 09/07/2022 02:03

@Anotheronebitesthecheese

who do you think appoints the PMs advisors?

Luxa · 09/07/2022 02:04

It's not like no Labour or LibDem politician has ever been incompetent or economical with the truth though, is it? Of course some from all parties are at it. Politicians are just people and I find it bizarre that anyone expects them to be as good as gold. Theresa May had a very goody goody image but was an embarrassingly incompetent PM. Others, both Labour and Tory, have been slimy and conceited. All politicians have to sell their policies and opinions to us, or at other times to make no comment on all kinds of things until the time is right. That's their job. They get things wrong and change tack, that brings on the U turn headlines. They stick to the same path, they're branded inflexible. People form very polarised , tribal opinions on politics, refusing to accept that someone in a party that isn't their favourite could possibly have any good motives. The benefit of the doubt is never given and witch hunts ensue. It's like a pantomime where each character simply gets either a cheer or a boo, nothing in between. Or a fundamentalist religion where only your view is correct and all other beliefs are seen as evil.

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Anotheronebitesthecheese · 09/07/2022 02:04

TheDuchessOfBeddington · 09/07/2022 01:46

OP I’ll stick my head above the parapet.

I don’t think he’s the best leader of all time. But….

I think he knows what a woman is.

I think he is flawed, as many people are, and is not afraid to admit it.

Deep down, I believe he is a libertarian, just like I see myself as.

He was against the lockdowns from the start. I know they broke the laws by having parties etc. But so did I. I visited my elderly parents, at their request, due to their loneliness, during the lockdown.

So if I was to meet him, I would have a pint with the guy.

Flame me as you see fit!

I think this too. My comment as I think he may be ND is because I don't actually think he has a grasp o r inclination to involve himself in office politics \ lock down parties. To other people I know sounds absurd but being ND myself and partner being ND and employs staff,he needs his trusted employees to point out such things. My D P holds an academic post and employs many people he is respected but as far as the social side he is clueless and not interested, he would rather put blinkers on and do his job. I do think this has happened here????

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Luxa · 09/07/2022 02:07

if you can't see that this is the worst, most talentless government in memory (history?

Not by a long shot. Tony Blair, John Major, Gordon Brown, Theresa May, all far worse.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 09/07/2022 02:09

He knows what a woman is

The only interest he has in what a woman is is if he might be interested in shagging her or not. Anybody who thinks he cares beyond that is entirely deluded. He thought it might win him some popularity from the 'Horrified, from Tunbridge Wells' brigade is all.

apintortwo · 09/07/2022 02:15

He was dealt a number of very difficult, almost impossible hands that nobody wanted to take on. Most must have expected him to fail. But he didn't. He succeeded, and many will not forgive him for that.

Aria999 · 09/07/2022 02:16

If you think the current situation in Britain is what success looks like then heaven help you

VaggieMight · 09/07/2022 02:18

I think he knows what a woman is.

As does everyone. But the Tories helped get us into this current mess. Wasn't it Penny Mordaunt who said the starting point is TWAW and that was echoed by Theresa May? The Tories are trying to backtrack now but they let this nonsense fester and allowed the TWAW lobbyists to infiltrate and influence every public institution. They don't care about women's rights or tran's rights, they've just twigged that reality might be a vote winner for the 99.9% of population that understand basic biology.

No political party is standing up for the rights of women and girls right now, but it's foolish to the Tories are.

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Anotheronebitesthecheese · 09/07/2022 02:20

I'm going to bed now as way past bed time. The thought that is going through my head is the fact that a war was breaking out in Ukraine and all we could hear was Labour harping on about partygate! I am disgusted this happened and rightly we need an investigation, when the time is right. Ffs! Labour had nothing, nothing but partygate , wasted time, right now when we have a very serious situation happening in Europe! I agree everyone should be held accountable for blatant rule breaches and the disrespect for families 100% but when our national security is at risk and the real threat of WW3 we shouldn't be mud slinging we should be working together. Why did Labour detract from this???? Again I don't like either parties!

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Aria999 · 09/07/2022 02:20

Also he wasn't 'dealt' brexit, he cynically got in bed with the hard liners because he really, really wanted to be pm.

He dealt his own hand, and used some cards he had up his sleeve.

apintortwo · 09/07/2022 02:22

If you think the current situation in Britain is what success looks like then heaven help you

It could have been a LOT worse with others in charge.

The dithering, the kneeling, the apologising, the fear, the delusion...I could go on.

And many of the circumstances Boris is blamed for are indeed global

apintortwo · 09/07/2022 02:23

No political party is standing up for the rights of women and girls right now, but it's foolish to the Tories are

At least they are seeing sense now and are not afraid to speak up. Other parties are still pandering to the lunacy

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