Does racism only work one way?

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Not sure what I think about this really, but I can see it causing absolute outrage if it were the other way round.

what she said.

Those who are dismissive are usually the same people who wheel out the ‘I don’t see colour’ or ‘I don’t care what colour someone’s skin is’ tropes. All it is is a refusal to acknowledge the lived experiences of PoC and to address the barriers they face.

We live in a World where thankfully being not-racist is no longer enough, you must be anti-racist.

Nazi Germany didn't leave Europe split up with no regard for the effect on its people. That's what the European countries did to Africa, divided in into whatever countries they wanted to with no regard for how that impacted the people living there.

Then Britain did it again with India, splitting into India and Pakistan leaving 10-20 million people homeless.

And there was that time America decided to divide Korea in half by drawing a line on a map.

I think you’ve confused my point. Unthread I said that corrupt sub Saharan millionaires can’t be blamed on rich white men of the past.

But to come on this thread and try to put to bed colonialism and it’s after effects jd dismissive and condescending to those of us with descendants affected by it.

However @Lndnmummy makes a very valid point too. Just like you, many would prefer to brush the whole little incident under the carpet and say to those countries ‘bah! Just let bygones be bygones’ after having ransacked their culture, language, valuables and natural resources.

I agree!

@Tillsforthrills Acknowledging the horrors of colonialism is completely valid.

But at what point are former colonies truly independent and in control of their own destinies? Are you suggesting that it can’t happen?

Again, I think you’ve misunderstood me.

This may be because you’ve agreed with a PP who has basically said forget colonialism.

I’m not sure how you’ve arrived at that question put to me.

You’ve now agreed we shouldn’t forget the horrors of colonialism - that was what I was saying all along?

Don’t start to come up with foolish questions in that basis.

‘Are you saying…’

No I am not. I only say what I say which has been clear however much you try to twist it.

We live in a World where thankfully being not-racist is no longer enough, you must be anti-racist.

Straight out of Robin di Angelo's book. She is a hideous racist grifter.

Those who are dismissive are usually the same people who wheel out the ‘I don’t see colour’ or ‘I don’t care what colour someone’s skin is’ tropes.

Erm... you mean like Martin Luther King?

"I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood... I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Anti-racism is much wider than Di Angelo and frankly your comment is nothing but offensive.

The second part of your comment simply speaks to your ignorance.

Anti racism according to Di Angelo is about seeing racism in every interaction. She herself describes herself as a racist. She talks about how she's frightened of black women and how she doesn't know how to talk to them. She's horrendous.

What's ignorant about MLK? He was a hero of the civil rights movement. Up until the last few years, with grifters like Di Angelo and Ibram X Kendi on the scene, everyone understood that racism was about seeing people's skin colour as more important than their character. Now we are told that we have to focus on people's skin colour and that to quote MLK is ignorant? I think that speech is one of the most beautiful and important speeches not only of the civil rights movement, but of all history. How can you just dismiss it?

What Di Angelo calls 'anti racism' is better understood as 'neo-racism'. It's racist to judge people according to the colour of their skin.

There is a big difference between 'I don't see colour' and 'not being judged for the colour of their skin'

@beastlyslumber

"I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood... I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

This is not the same as "I don't see colour". At all. And if you can't see that then it's very troubling and perhaps means this isn't a topic you've made much effort to understand.

ideas.ted.com/why-saying-i-dont-see-race-at-all-just-makes-racism-worse/

A bit around why the concept of colourblindness is problematic.

Nobody is dismissing his quote.

But to equate it to "I don't see colour" is entirely missing the point of it.

Playing devils advocate saying what if it had have been minorities dominating white people - how ridiculous and excusing is that

Why is it ridiculous? Can you explain why it could definitely not have happened the other way round?

I don't know who Di Angelo is but I'm intrigued by the comment that she is scared of black women and doesn't know how to talk to them.
Is there any context for this? Is she on abou socially, professionally, day to day activities?

I believe it was also Di Angelo that coined the term ‘white fragility’ - fair to say this thread is a bit of a case in point.

For all the people saying MLK's speech doesn't reflect the sentiment of "not seeing someone's skin colour," I think that is exactly what he was dreaming of - a world where it just is irrelevant to how we treat one another. It should be of no more significance than the colour of a person's eyes.

Robin Di Angelo is a white woman who has made a fortune out of telling other white people that they are racist. She says that in any interaction with a poc, a white person should constantly be focusing on their race. She talks and writes about how she finds black women scary and she describes herself as racist - and she has made a career out of assuming that every white person is as racist as she is.

Her ideas have unfortunately become quite widespread and many on this thread are espousing them, in some cases clearly not recognising their provenance. She is one who says you have to be "anti racist" by which she means that you should keep race uppermost in your mind at all times, and consider it to be the most important part of any person you interact with.

It couldn't be further away from the dream that we will be judged by our character and not the colour of our skin.

She talks and writes about how she finds black women scary

Anyone who is irrationally scared needs professional help

she means that you should keep race uppermost in your mind at all times

So that the book peddling can continue and the £££ keep rolling in. It's not difficult to work that one out