Does racism only work one way?

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Not sure what I think about this really, but I can see it causing absolute outrage if it were the other way round.

@Fairyliz ezactly would be outcry if this was said anywhere else
Personally i give no shit what colour the person is who runs this country as long as its someone who is doing a good job , sadly that seems a long time away but its really not surprising that more mp's are white in the uk , like I wouldn't expect to many white leaders now in african countries

@daisyjgrey what rubbish
So are you saying for example travellers have never experienced racism or a white polish person etc
So the guy who was beaten near me for being polish wasn't racially attacked ?

By who?

@Fancydancer1934 by some on here apparently as that is not the case with many countries at all

6.5% of the UK attend private schools

66% of the cabinet attended private school (I'm not sure if this is still the case as I can't keep track of who is still in the cabinet at this point)

Therefore I'm not sure quoting statistics here helps you

And I didn't say a 'non white' person would be a better prime minister

Yes, of course they are racist. The Pakistani Muslim men stereotyped underage white girls as ‘slags’ in a way they would never have done to girls from their own community. They then used their power in terms of access to money, drugs, alcohol etc to exploit & abuse the white girls. That victimisation of one racial group by another is the definition of racism.

@Covidagainandagain but you did say until we have a non white prime minister and private school stats have nothing to do with it really in what you just said ? We all know that private school children often go on to do better and there are a fair fee non white people who go to private schools in the one by me

Nish Kumar is a twat anyway.

But, no, racism does not only go one way. Institutional/systemic racism can only go one way due to power imbalances, but prejudice based on race (aka racism) is just that. If you're prejudiced against someone based on their race, you are racist.

Think of it like sexism. Systemic sexism can only go one way, against women, as we live in a patriarchal society. That doesn't mean women can't be sexist against men in their everyday life.

I'm glad you brought this up. I do not know of the reverse situation anywhere in the UK is. White men Asian girls. Since the men hold " the power" them it is racist? Misogyny? Both? I would be interested to hear the thoughts of a non white person on this.

@PlanetNormal but according to some on here it isn't
Thats the issue people are making there own definition of it

@DarkCharlotte hit the nail on the head and thats what people don't seem to be able to distinguish between

So the guy who was beaten near me for being polish wasn't racially attacked ?

But were they attacked for being Polish or for being white? I'm not sure attacking someone for being Polish is racism, surely isn't xenophobia? If you beat someone up for being French, that's not racist, it's a nationality, it's xenophobia.

I'm always confused when the definition of racism shifted to become tied to privilege.

At a structural level I completely agree that there's a massive disparity. At an individual level I'd seen racism travel in both directions. E.g. I recently spoke to a black man who was really struggling because his current and ex partner were white women and his mother absolutely would not accept them. It was destroying his current relationship as it had contributed to destroying his previous relationship.

I think it's helpful to separate systemic racism from the back and forth at individual level.

*surely it's xenophobia

“Non-whites” 🤨 Wow.

Racial prejudice and racism are different things.

The person I was responding to twisted my words, if you can't see that I can't help you.

And if 'there are a fair few non white people in private schools by you' and 'private school children often go on to do better' then it makes even less sense all the prime ministers have been white then doesn't it.

No, systemic racism and racism are different things.

Really? Racism is racism regardless of class or status of the recipient. However, I can kind of see his point

A - it's clearly at least a partial joke (although it is a cheeky wink to the fact it very rarely happens).

B - Officially no, it's not racism. Racism is negativity toward an OPPRESSED group.

I don't think anyone would consider white men to be marginalised in British society.

www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/becoming-anti-racist-city/racism-definition

My council seems to use "racist" the way most people do.

@worriedatthistime what on earth are you talking about? Last I checked, "Polish" isn't a race, it's a nationality and what you're talking about is xenophobia, not racism, so that's moot. And true Irish Travellers have been proven to be a genetically distinct ethnic minority.

My point very much still stands.

According to UK law it's racism. There's not much point in discussing what is and what isn't racism is as it's defined by law.

"The Equality Act 2010 says you mustn’t be discriminated against because of your race. Discrimination which is against the Equality Act is unlawful. If you’ve experienced unlawful discrimination, you may be able to do something about it.

Read this page to find out more about race discrimination.

What’s meant by race?
If you want to make a discrimination claim, you need to find out if you’re someone who mustn’t be discriminated against under the Equality Act 2010.

The Equality Act says it’s only unlawful discrimination if you’re treated unfairly because of certain reasons. These reasons are called protected characteristics. Race is one of the protected characteristics under the Equality Act.

Race discrimination is when you’re treated unfairly because of one of the following things:

colour
nationality
ethnic origin
national origin.
You can be discriminated against because you belong to a certain racial group. People who share the same colour, nationality or ethnic or national origins are part of the same racial group."
More info at: www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/discrimination/protected-characteristics/race-discrimination/

@daisyjgrey under the Equality Act definition racism is defined as discrimination as a result of ethnicity, colour or nationality. It’s very clear.