Boris Johnson, parties and the loss of the Ethics Adviser, part 7

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Previous thread

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I think that an electoral card is available in NI

This was in the last episode of Derry Girls, people getting their ID card to vote on the Good Friday Agreement.

Priti Patel: ECHR judges who stopped Rwanda deportations are racist" - The Times and The Sunday Times

And so it begins, or rather continues.

That woman is absolute poison.

Do you think she knows that out of 130 people originally on that flight, the ECHR were only involved with one?

I mean, obviously she knows, but thinks we’re too stupid to know and will fall for this attack on the ECHR. Lovely to see our government hold us in such high regard.

Re the Elections Act and ID card, I know at a certain point in my life I was too poor to afford a passport and didn’t have a driving license. No photo ID, no vote, so another policy affecting the most vulnerable and and anyone struggling financially. Issuing ID cards centrally gets round most of this, but I can guarantee the government won’t do this as they would rather the the people most affected by their policies can’t vote their way out of them.

Huh? I presume it’s implying that people who think sending asylum seekers to Rwanda think it’s an awful place because black people live there not that it’s a country on a different continent with a shaky past regarding human rights? Plus the evidence we have from when Israel did it www.independent.co.uk/voices/refugees-migrants-israel-britain-rwanda-b2060595.html?amp

She needs to pick a line to follow. It’s either Rwanda will be a deterrent because people don’t want to be sent there because it’s not a nice place to live or Rwanda is basically butlins and asylum seekers will have the time of their lives there. Which one is it Priti?

Older people who've not moved since photo driving licences were introduced won't have a photo driving licence - they'll still have the paper one. Nor should they voluntarily get one, as once you have one it cost (currently) £21.50 every 10 years to renew it.

And they may not have a passport - so what are they supposed to do?

I recall reading something about 60 plussers being allowed to use their bus pass but students can't use their student id's.

I'll see if I can find it again

Here you go
www.bigissue.com/news/politics/new-voter-id-laws-make-it-harder-for-young-people-to-vote/

I think a poster alluded to a Johnson- Carrie story in the offing. I wondered whether it was The Times article that Johnson tried to install Carrie in £100,000 pa FO job as his Chief of Staff whilst they were having an affair.
Also that they were caught in a compromising position in his office.
Yuck.

twitter.com/starbie99/status/1538124889554558978?s=21&t=z0pvv83b1Fx1NZ89YClBgw

First Jennifer Acuri... He likes to keep his girlfriends close by doesn't he? Risk taking behaviour once again.

Interestingly I can't find this article in my online subscription so it's only in print.

Seems it was also pulled from the Mail.

twitter.com/sturdyalex/status/1538122549028081664?s=21&t=z0pvv83b1Fx1NZ89YClBgw

And from the Times, link in one of the comments.

Those bungs pay off

She needs to pick a line to follow. It’s either Rwanda will be a deterrent because people don’t want to be sent there because it’s not a nice place to live or Rwanda is basically butlins and asylum seekers will have the time of their lives there. Which one is it Priti

I wonder what success will look like?

Will there be fewer people crossing the Channel because they don't want to go to Rwanda or the amount of people crossing will stay the same because they get the chance to live a new, safe life in Rwanda?

It's nothing to do with saving lives in the channel or quashing the people smugglers
It is all to do with the fact she has to be seen to be doing something to appease the worst of their fan base, and because the home office is in a complete shambles and asylum cases are taking four times as long to be heard

It's a win:win whatever the result for Patel and worst elements of the Conservative Party (ie most, if not all, of the Government ) and its xenophobic base.

Appeal to xenophobic, self-centred, racist instincts of their followers and/or demonise nasty lefty "woke" lawyers for applying the law and the ECHR whose founding principles we helped create

For sure - I’d just, at the very least, like to see a bit of continuity in their reasoning. The movie industry lied to me - evil geniuses are not geniuses.

Re: BJ’s casting couch. It falls rather flat doesn’t it? It’s completely within the range of expected and condoned behaviours from him. Anyone else would be badly damaged by those revelations but not him - and that’s the scandal.

Older people who've not moved since photo driving licences were introduced won't have a photo driving licence - they'll still have the paper one. Nor should they voluntarily get one, as once you have one it cost (currently) £21.50 every 10 years to renew it.

This may not be quite true. I was in this exact situation, but once you get to seventy, you have to renew it, and it's free to do so.
My parents would have been in that situation - they gave up driving, passports expired and never had bus passes because of lack of mobility. MIL may be in that situation, never drove/is not mobile. She may still have a valid passport but I doubt very much whether she would want to renew it. Still she could apply for a bus pass even though she would never use it.

Is the Carrie/Johnson story the big story which someone said the other day was due to break?

Would it make any difference? They are both a shameless pair.

I don't think it can be - as Cornetto has said the story seems very on brand for the Johnsons.

Johnson is off to Rwanda this Thursday- avoiding the country on the day on the by-election.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/boris-johnson-wanted-to-give-carrie-symonds-a-100000-downing-street-role/

^Mystery surrounds Times exclusive claiming Boris Johnson wanted to give Carrie Symonds a £100,000 role
Why did one of the scoops of the year suddenly disappear from newspapers friendly to the prime minister?^

Actually I think the job story might be the one alluded to earlier in the week. I also think that their HQ’s moral compass is so broken they’re unable to judge what will capture the publics attention.

Let’s face it, when you read through the loooong list of Boris’s wrong doings, in No. 10 alone, it’s almost incomprehensible as to why he was still in office for partygate - I can only presume because so many people were personally affected and offended that it gained traction.

by Prof Tanya Bueltmann

“But again it all relates back to the basic principle of a self-serving culture he established that underpins everything Johnson does.
In order to pursue this agenda, Johnson has:

— chosen to push through a profoundly damaging and extreme Brexit
— prorogued Parliament
— threatened to break international law
— attacked democracy itself, e.g. by undermining checking processes
— become increasingly authoritarian
— been perfectly happy to enable fascistic policies; I want to be clear that this is not a shrill comment: his government is pursuing a policy that essentially traffics fellow human beings to a country abroad for cash and without their consent
— shown complete disrespect for the people of the UK: ‘let the bodies pile high’
— pursued policies that are leading to people considering suicide
— enabled policies that let people starve and freeze
— accepted and enabled corruption in unprecedented ways during the pandemic
— lied in the House of Commons to save his own skin and because he thinks he is better than us
— lied to the Queen
— sought to disable Parliament as much as possible
— given key Government roles to ministers who are in line with his approach
— put in place hurdles for voting
— limited our right to protest
— fabricated a culture war that is deliberately designed to sow further division
— thrown his own junior staff and other groups of people under the bus to protect himself
— shown only disrespect for the devolved nations
— been happy to see any opposition voices cast as traitors to the UK and effectively done so himself
— chosen to imperil peace in Northern Ireland
— rewritten the ministerial code to protect himself and his Govt

the list goes on and on …

All of it done to serve himself.”

Hmmm, I couldn’t see it at a glance on the DM site, sure it was there earlier.

Looks like it was there

I also heard it on Radio 4 this morning

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0018fzc At 40 minutes in

Presumably they've been lent on.

The Times has noticeably swung back to Johnson after a brief period of highly critical articles & comment pieces. I was almost enjoying reading it.

I think the winds are in Johnson's favour for the short term - handy strike to blame unions and Labour, foreign judges, Brexit flavoured NI Protocol issues which have pushed cost of living & housing etc off the front pages.

They can manufacture more of the same over the next few weeks before Recess.

By-elections loss or reduction of vote share will be blamed on Hunt and rebels. The rebels themselves have been neutralised for now.

And the Johnson caravan rolls on, spreading shit wherever it goes.

Meanwhile, the right seem to be rattled by Wes Streeting for aome reason

twitter.com/witherjay/status/1538180794300223489