Why Are So Many Survivors Supporting Johnny Depp?

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Why Are So Many Survivors Supporting Johnny Depp?

By some of your standards, any rebuttal to a spouse or partner physically and psychologically abusing you, also constitutes abuse?

There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that he abused her in ANY, WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

He may have written some cuntish messages to his friends in reference to her, but they PROVE ABSOLUTELY NO ABUSE.

What should his correct response to her violence have been? To stay and be hit a few more times, to stay and remain entirely HERS, to stay and do as he's told, to stay to placate her? By stay, I mean, stay in the same room, house, etc., not stay in the marriage.

He never abused her. There is no evidence whatsoever that he did. She has never had bruises, never sought or needed medical treatment and despite her multiple recordings of him, there is absolutely nothing in there apart from mildly phrased defensive responses to her.

You are basically saying, that if your partner abuses you (male or female) and you respond in an irritated or unkind manner, that you too, are an abuser.

That is not the case.

AS for the lady who said that women can not induce terror in the same way that a man can - I assure you, from horrible experience, that they fucking can.

Have you ever had a heated argument with a partner? What have you said during those arguments? Did you raise your voice? Did you slam a few doors? Did you swear? Or is everyone on Mumsnet part of some saintly, god-like creatures of calm and serenity?

He never abused her. There is no evidence whatsoever that he did. She has never had bruises, never sought or needed medical treatment and despite her multiple recordings of him, there is absolutely nothing in there apart from mildly phrased defensive responses to her.
Apart from all the photos of her bruises, the make up artist testifying how she covered the bruises, her friends testifying they saw the bruises and they looked like the photos.
Apart from the texts where he admits to headbutting her, admits to being a monster, admits to drug and drink induced rages.
Apart from the texts to her family where he says she is an angel and he treats her badly.
Apart from his friends testifying he could be unreasonably jealous and controlling, and previous girlfriends testifying he was controlling to them.
Apart from his own texts where he uses demeaning and abusive language about a number of women, not just her.

I mean, apart from all that, no there is no evidence at all he's abusive and she's making it up.

I despair. What exactly does the proof need to be for a man to be demonstrated as abusive? When he kills a woman? Even then, men argue it away as "she liked it rough".

I've seen all her photos of bruises. The ones that stick out (for their absence of any bruising) are the ones where he slapped her so many times that she doesn't remember how many times and that included him breaking her nose in her opinion and her mouth being bashed off her teeth! Apart from one photo where she has blusher on, every photo taken the next day, show NOT A SINGLE FACIAL INJURY WHATSOEVER. There's no swelling, no bruising, no NOTHING. Oh and yes, he wears rather large rings on every finger every day. Perhaps he took them off that day?

Watch this. From the trial. And her statements. Busted lip. Two black eyes. And then WATCH IN THIS CLIP, her, on a talk show the following day...............

I particularly love the close ups of her mouth lol.

I've had a busted lip. You ain't going to be able to disguise the types of injuries she claims to have sustained. Not even with the most brilliant makeup artist.
Watch the clip.

Furthermore, after the level of a beating she claims to have taken, your eyes will be swollen from sobbing and you will be a nervous wreck. The VERY LAST FUCKING THING YOU WOULD BE CAPABLE OF DOING the following day, would be going on The James Corden show.

Here's the clip of her being cross-examined about what must have been an extraordinary level of a hammering...........

What has that got to this with him being an abuser?

Hmm. I think the evidence shows that victims of all kinds of crimes and traumas don't behave as you might think.

E.g. Joanne Lees was disbelieved for not being upset enough when she and her husband were kidnapped and her husband was murdered by that nutter in Australia.

There was a stranger rape case in the US where the victim was convicted of making a false allegation and her life left shattered, because she had a history of trauma and the police thought she must be attention seeking (watch the Netflix series Unbelievable)

I prefer to go on objective evidence rather than assumptions about how people "should" act.

Well, I'm pretty sure that you do not go on and laugh on the James Corden show. That, I can pretty much guarantee.

I haven't ever scrawled cheating accusations to a partner in blood on a mirror.

I haven't ever ever said to a friend in a message that I want to burn my partner / ex partner and rape their corpse.

This isn't a couple having an argument , it's next level.

You're honestly saying if someone on here said their partner or ex partner had done the former, you wouldn't call it abusive? If they did the latter, you wouldn't think it could be an indicator of someone with abusive tendencies?

Because the only 'evidence' whatsoever is him mildly saying that he needs to have some space. That's it. What he wrote about her to his friends? No abuse. What I write about arseholes at work to my friends does not reflect how I act towards them professionally. If it did, I'd be doing some serious time! 😂

Johnny Depp will have done numerous interviews during their relationship too. Made press laugh, seemed jovial and happy in public etc. By your logic, that means he couldn't have been the victim of any abuse either. But you believe he was. So why is it one rule for AH and another for JD?

Because the only 'evidence' whatsoever is him mildly saying that he needs to have some space. That's it.

What about him making cheating accusations in his own blood on their mirror? You don't think that was abusive? Blimey.

You should see the discussions I have with my therapist and my siblings about my abusive mother!

When I call her?

'Hiya! How are you?'

I am never abusive to my mother but by God, the conversations that I have had about her, and my opinion of her are not complimentary. I have expressed desires that among other things that 'the fat cunt eats herself to death'.

Do I say that to her? No.

So am I abusive to my mother?

Nothing about the blood messages @JetTail?

Because he has never sustained 'injuries' such as she claims to have. It must have been fucking horrific trying to go to work every day and appear normal.
You can't, you simply can not, appear or sustain an appearance of normality, if you're being abused constantly.

I missed that evidence. Do you have a link?

He managed to divorce her. I'm not sure which of them filed for divorce, but I suspect him?

Sure thing:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=johnny+depp+blood+mirror&client=safari&hl=en-gb&ei=ax6SYqCDJHRgQbVvKlo&oq=johnny+depp+blood+mirror&gsslcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAM6BwgAEEcQsAM6BAgeEApKBAhBGABQtAlYtg9gRFoAXABeACAAWGIAekDkgEBN5gBAKABAcgBCMABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

He had to beg for her to leave while he was undergoing detox for substances. She withheld medication for him. That's torture and sadism.

On May 23, 2016, Heard filed for divorce from Depp and, four days later, obtained a temporary restraining order against the Oscar-nominated actor. She alleged that Depp had physically abused her during their relationship, and said it was usually while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

Thanks for the link. I'm not sure what is written and by whom? It's illegible?

He's abusing himself for sure if that's true. Sounds like he really needed help rather than his wife writing snarky messages back. Seriously how out of it either drugs or mental illness/ breakdown do you have to be to do that. If it was a woman people would demand he helped her but if it's man he's suddenly abusive.

Interesting. That she asked for 7 million in a divorce settlement. Maybe she didn't love him? She should have stuck with Elon Musk and married him lol. She might have received a better settlement. 🤔