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Some families to get a total of £1,200 cash, to support with cost of living crisis.

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flashbac · 26/05/2022 13:07

Highlights:
All families can now keep the 200 quid energy payment, no longer repayment based. This will be topped up to £400.
Low income families to get £650 straight into bank account.
(Non means tested) disabled benefit recipients to get £150.
All in all some will receive total of £1,200.
Funded by windfall tax.

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BudgetPlanMum · 06/06/2022 11:49

Rosscameasdoody · 06/06/2022 11:46

Wow this is rude. I think I replied to your post earlier too because your lack of empathy for the people you deal with, and their circumstances was concerning. I think in the main people are fed up with stereotypical attitudes being directed at benefit claimants and your original post really just reinforced that. I also agree that the type of claimants you will see as service users depends on the type of benefits you deal with, but all have their issues and deserve to be treated with empathy and respect. Your attitude to other posters on here - name calling and insults etc, also speaks to the perceived attitude you have towards your service users.

What's your point?

angieloumc · 06/06/2022 11:50

Seriously, grow up. You're just showing what type of person you are, name calling and being rude.
You've removed your original post which says it all.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/06/2022 11:50

ClaudineClare · 06/06/2022 11:15

Hope you are not at work today BudgetPlanMum.

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Rosscameasdoody · 06/06/2022 11:54

BudgetPlanMum · 06/06/2022 11:49

What's your point?

The point is you expressed a less than helpful attitude towards the benefit claimants in your care and you endorsed this by being rude and insulting to people questioning that on this thread. You removed your original post, so you obviously have some understanding of what it says about you, or you would have let it stand. But then you know that.

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angieloumc · 06/06/2022 13:53

Oh dear. Well I do have a job age a life, though not a husband as I'm divorced. Nobody has called you any names at all. You really should calm down a little.

ClaudineClare · 06/06/2022 14:07

Seriously BudgetPlanMum it is really unprofessional for you to be writing that way about the people you provide a service to, many of them will be vulnerable. If your managers saw this and recognised you, you would be in deep trouble. Your behaviour here breaks the Civil Service Code.

PipMumsnet · 06/06/2022 14:37

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Rosscameasdoody · 06/06/2022 19:30

ClaudineClare · 06/06/2022 14:07

Seriously BudgetPlanMum it is really unprofessional for you to be writing that way about the people you provide a service to, many of them will be vulnerable. If your managers saw this and recognised you, you would be in deep trouble. Your behaviour here breaks the Civil Service Code.

I thought this too. Isn’t the kind of Information in the posts covered by the official secrets act the poster would have been required to sign as a requirement of the job ?

sashh · 07/06/2022 06:05

whowhatwerewhy · 06/06/2022 07:50

I think it's very frustrating that some ( not all ) refuse overtime or extra shifts because it "affects my benefits " it's people like that who grate on my nerves .

You have obviously not been in that position.

It's not about loosing a small amount of benefit it can be having to make a completely new claim and having to wait four weeks before you receive anything which has a knock on effect of getting behind with your rent.

So getting an extra £20 one week can cause weeks or even months of admin and financial insecurity.

Even if it is a simpler calculation eg if you work in retail but get a bonus for sales then you have to send in your wage slip every week / month and again this can trigger you not getting a benefit and having to reapply.

I receive an occupational pension, it usually goes up in April so I have to notify UC of the change.

This should be quite simple, I add a note to my journal, they put the figures in and change my UC accordingly. But it depends on who picks up the message from my journal, it's taken a month of daily messages sometimes.

whowhatwerewhy · 07/06/2022 06:54

@sashh
I understand your point that the system is broken.
But it does add to my frustration that some are offered additional hours and don't take them due to " losing benefits " to be handled £650 when some take every hour they can get to avoid benefits.

Svara · 07/06/2022 07:12

whowhatwerewhy · 07/06/2022 06:54

@sashh
I understand your point that the system is broken.
But it does add to my frustration that some are offered additional hours and don't take them due to " losing benefits " to be handled £650 when some take every hour they can get to avoid benefits.

I already work full time. If I do overtime then what I earn per hour is a pittance after all deductions, I am better off but barely.

whowhatwerewhy · 07/06/2022 07:16

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Svara · 07/06/2022 07:18

I don't think anyone should be shamed into working more than full time just because they require top up benefits.

whowhatwerewhy · 07/06/2022 07:24

@Svara
I understand your point I too work full time and could cry at the pennies I get for overtime.

My point it some will do the extra for a pittance , some flat out refuse because it affects there benefits they can do the hours but won't they would rather keep the benefits.
To me if the opportunity is there for you to work and you can do it you should. I know people who work 20h a week and refuse to do extra, I would understand if they were doing 50+ h and said no ,

Babyroobs · 07/06/2022 09:48

whowhatwerewhy · 07/06/2022 07:24

@Svara
I understand your point I too work full time and could cry at the pennies I get for overtime.

My point it some will do the extra for a pittance , some flat out refuse because it affects there benefits they can do the hours but won't they would rather keep the benefits.
To me if the opportunity is there for you to work and you can do it you should. I know people who work 20h a week and refuse to do extra, I would understand if they were doing 50+ h and said no ,

If people on Universal credit do extra hours they get to keep almost half of any extra they earn.

Svara · 07/06/2022 10:23

Babyroobs · 07/06/2022 09:48

If people on Universal credit do extra hours they get to keep almost half of any extra they earn.

You lose a third to NI and tax as well

Svara · 07/06/2022 10:31

Once over thresholds, then I think you keep about 30p in the pound on additional income. 0.6675 after tax and NI, times 0.45 if I've got that right?

Babyroobs · 07/06/2022 11:13

Svara · 07/06/2022 10:23

You lose a third to NI and tax as well

Universal credit is calculated on net pay, so people get to keep 45p of Uc for each additional pound they earn.

Svara · 07/06/2022 12:06

Babyroobs · 07/06/2022 11:13

Universal credit is calculated on net pay, so people get to keep 45p of Uc for each additional pound they earn.

You've lost 33.25p, then keep 45% of what's left though right? 45% of net pay. So about 30p?

Babyroobs · 07/06/2022 13:51

Svara · 07/06/2022 12:06

You've lost 33.25p, then keep 45% of what's left though right? 45% of net pay. So about 30p?

Nope. You keep 45p of Universal credit not wages.

Svara · 07/06/2022 15:05

Nope. You keep 45p of Universal credit not wages.
Sorry, I know that, I wasn't clear. Does it make a difference to how much better off you are working an additional hour for say £10 gross?

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