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Some families to get a total of £1,200 cash, to support with cost of living crisis.

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flashbac · 26/05/2022 13:07

Highlights:
All families can now keep the 200 quid energy payment, no longer repayment based. This will be topped up to £400.
Low income families to get £650 straight into bank account.
(Non means tested) disabled benefit recipients to get £150.
All in all some will receive total of £1,200.
Funded by windfall tax.

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Manekinek0 · 27/05/2022 21:43

StickyFingeredWeeNed · 27/05/2022 21:19

Yesterday (before lunch) in my full-time job I dealt with a case of domestic violence, a psychotic breakdown and a third involving historical child abuse and facilitating the person’s privacy.

i get tax credits.

it’s probably because I’m a lazy cunt who doesn’t work hard/do an important job.

Have you thought about taking in some ironing? Or maybe retraining?/s

Rosscameasdoody · 27/05/2022 21:44

Sorry - I forgot pensioners. You’re a bunch of wealthy money grabbing, winter fuel payment claiming freeloaders. There, I think that covers it.

wentworthinmate · 27/05/2022 21:45

Aren’t the energy companies just going to raise the prices more to recoup their loss to the government?

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Waxonwaxoff0 · 27/05/2022 21:46

Rosscameasdoody · 27/05/2022 21:41

Don’t forget you’re not ‘honest and hardworking’ if you’re claiming any benefit at all, if you’re on UC, you’re preoccupied with working out how little you have to work to claim maximum benefit, and if you don’t work at all you’re a lazy scrounger/feigning illness or disability and the ‘tax payer’ is keeping you. Also keep in mind that people on 100k per year are struggling too - being a high earner, apparently comes with its’ own set of financial constraints. Yes indeed, all those pesky high mortgages and Waitrose food bills leave you with less than £400 a month disposable income. And all you disabled folk out there, kindly make an effort to look more disabled - all these invisible disabilities are making it difficult to know who to shout abuse at the second you pull into a blue badge space or try to use a disabled toilet !! Oh and you’d better be grateful for your free cars and the other ‘freebies’ your so called disabilities entitle you to.
Have I left anybody out ?

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Spot on!

StickyFingeredWeeNed · 27/05/2022 21:57

Manekinek0 · 27/05/2022 21:43

Have you thought about taking in some ironing? Or maybe retraining?/s

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😂 do I get a free iron?

SleepingStandingUp · 27/05/2022 23:00

Rosscameasdoody · 27/05/2022 21:44

Sorry - I forgot pensioners. You’re a bunch of wealthy money grabbing, winter fuel payment claiming freeloaders. There, I think that covers it.

I don't feel like you adequately covered carers

Harmonypuss · 27/05/2022 23:01

@LadyCatStark

Might as well give up work then…

If you think you'll be financially better off, please feel free to take the cash I'm due from this batch of financial help.

Oh, I almost forgot, there is one stipulation... You have to take my disability as well, along with responsibility for all the additional costs I have to look after myself!

The number of people over the years who've said said to me, "Ooh, you're so lucky getting a new car every few years that you don't have to pay for, I wish I did", each and every one of them makes me sick! I say exactly the same thing to them.... "If you want my 'free' car, you're more than welcome to have it, but it comes with something I really don't think you'll want... my disability and living costs". They all shut up pretty sharpish then.

Dementedswan · 28/05/2022 00:39

Christ! At the age of 20 back in the 90s I was earning 25k a year. Might not seem another lot now but then it was. At 25 I was earning nearly 40k a year. Shit happened and now I get £450 ! Month esa and forced to rely on my husband working constantly. For example he started at 8.30 this morning in the office came home and he's still working now. Just to support us, however we as a family are not entitled to anything else yet everything is rising. Must be lots of people in the same position. Does wonders for mental health of the person who cam no longer work. And the kicker.... because I worked so hard I have enough national insurance contributions for contribution based ESA. So basically no free prescriptions etc which I need. And now no help for my family with the cost of living crisis. Hell I'd rather be earning my 90k a year by now!

Sortilege · 28/05/2022 01:05

Harmonypuss · 27/05/2022 23:01

@LadyCatStark

Might as well give up work then…

If you think you'll be financially better off, please feel free to take the cash I'm due from this batch of financial help.

Oh, I almost forgot, there is one stipulation... You have to take my disability as well, along with responsibility for all the additional costs I have to look after myself!

The number of people over the years who've said said to me, "Ooh, you're so lucky getting a new car every few years that you don't have to pay for, I wish I did", each and every one of them makes me sick! I say exactly the same thing to them.... "If you want my 'free' car, you're more than welcome to have it, but it comes with something I really don't think you'll want... my disability and living costs". They all shut up pretty sharpish then.

I bought my current car but my last two Motability cars cost me ~£3k advance payment each. Not refundable and probably higher now. (Need a large one to fit in all the DC and my wheelchair.) Plus all Motability customers surrender approx £250 of mobility PIP a month to pay for the lease. What’s free about that? People are so dim.

Dementedswan · 28/05/2022 01:13

Sortilege · 28/05/2022 01:05

I bought my current car but my last two Motability cars cost me ~£3k advance payment each. Not refundable and probably higher now. (Need a large one to fit in all the DC and my wheelchair.) Plus all Motability customers surrender approx £250 of mobility PIP a month to pay for the lease. What’s free about that? People are so dim.

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Some people have no idea! Xx

Harmonypuss · 28/05/2022 02:35

@Sortilege @Dementedswan

I bought my current car but my last two Motability cars cost me ~£3k advance payment each. Not refundable and probably higher now. (Need a large one to fit in all the DC and my wheelchair.) Plus all Motability customers surrender approx £250 of mobility PIP a month to pay for the lease. What’s free about that? People are so dim.

Yes, some people really are that dim.

My first Motability car in 1997 didn't need a deposit paying for it but yes, for each of my subsequent 8 cars, I've paid between £500 & £2,500 non-refundable deposit on them.

The reason people believe Motability vehicles to be free is because as much as we 'forfeit' approx £65/week to be able to lease these vehicles, we're not having to go to work to 'earn' this cash, it's given to us as an element of DLA or PIP.

So no, Motability cars aren't actually 'free', we choose to swap a benefit for them but I guarantee that a massive majority of those of us who have them would rather not have them, or the disabilities we have to live with that give us access to them.

I stand by what I've always said, take away my Motability car, ESA, PIP, the elements of this cash the government are saying I can have over the next x amount of months, BUT you take my disabilities too.

There's another point to be borne in mind as well, ESA is a legacy benefit, as are Carer's allowance, JSA etc. Those of us receiving legacy benefits didn't get the £1,560 uplift in benefits that those in receipt of Universal Credit for over the past 2 years. Don't get me wrong, we don't begrudge them getting it but the govt said it was for those who lost their jobs as a result of the pandemic, but it wasn't, it was paid to 'everyone' on UC, many of whom had either been migrated or moved by choice from legacy benefits to UC, what makes them different from us? The DWP CHOSE to DISCRIMINATE against those of us on legacies, a massive number of whom are disabled and here we are, over 2 years on, still trying to get that out right.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/608486

Kikibabes · 28/05/2022 06:32

I’m in the same boat as you two it seems- although I’ve got a 5 yo who I’ve only every received £20 p/w child benefit for but never child tax credit- I live in NI so maybe it’s different here? But do these grants ect apply to NI does anyone know?
and to all you bitchin about people who CANNOT physically work ‘getting free cash’ - I would swap you my life ANYDAY- I worked up until I was made disabled during a (2nd) spinal cord surgery which left me permanently disabled- cannot control my bladder, my bowl, cannot play with my son as my legs don’t function correctly- so please tell me some more about how hard it is for you getting up and going to work everyday because I was working and stuff g my dream job and overnight it ALL got taken away from me along with any dignity I had left and any chance of a career!
i understand people do genuinely’ cheat the system’ but please don’t be so bloody naive to put us all in the same bracket! It’s insulting, hurtful & plain spiteful! 🤯😤😡

TigerRag · 28/05/2022 07:12

Rosscameasdoody · 27/05/2022 21:25

You bet your sweet hippy it’s a deflection. Yesterday I was of the opinion that it was to take the attention away from the Gray report. Today I’m even more convinced of that because I’ve had an email from Rishi Sunak telling me how the Conservative party are now offering ‘real’ help. Anyone else had this ? It includes a button to press to ‘share’. I think they’ve had this latest package planned and prepared all along and delayed it until they knew what was in the Gray report. How else would they be able to announce it so quickly and prepare an email shot like this ? A cynical attempt to make us forgive and forget about partygate and all the other shit that’s gone down, in time for the next election. Anyone thinking of voting this lot back in needs to give their head a serious wobble.

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"real help" but not doing anything long term?

Sirzy · 28/05/2022 07:54

What is being done now isn’t enough, there needs to be long term sustainable changes but they will take time.

these measures will stop being drowning in the short term while the ship is stabilised longer term.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 08:29

SleepingStandingUp · 27/05/2022 23:00

I don't feel like you adequately covered carers

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My bad !! All you carers out there moaning about how you were overlooked again - you’re already getting £69.70 for a 35 hour week. That’s a whole £1.99 an hour - why aren’t you more grateful ? Why do you need extra money for fuel bills anyway ? You’re spending all that time looking after granny, or whatever - surely running round like a blue arsed fly all day will keep you warm enough, so you won’t need to put the heating on !!

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 08:37

TigerRag · 28/05/2022 07:12

"real help" but not doing anything long term?

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No - obviously. That would be socialism wouldn’t it ? To give any help at all to those they consider the bottom of the pile goes against the Tory grain - you know, welfare state, NHS, social care, that sort of thing. So having levied a windfall tax and supplemented it with government coffers to pay for this massive sticking plaster now, expect drastic cuts to the benefits and services for the vulnerable in the future when the time comes to pay for it all. Jam today - dry bread tomorrow. Food for thought when it’s time to put your X in the box.

Whitehorsegirl · 28/05/2022 08:43

Actually the ''all'' and ''everyone'' is not true. Leaseholders who live in flats with community heating system/networks (which are quite common in new built flats) will get nothing. That means key workers who bought into shared-ownership flats not only will get nothing but are also not protected by Ofgem energy cap. As usual the devil is in the details...

Anyway this money simply will go back in the pocket of energy companies. The only solution long term is to renationalise utilities. There is no reason why resources like water and gas should be used to make a profit.

Sirzy · 28/05/2022 08:52

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 08:29

My bad !! All you carers out there moaning about how you were overlooked again - you’re already getting £69.70 for a 35 hour week. That’s a whole £1.99 an hour - why aren’t you more grateful ? Why do you need extra money for fuel bills anyway ? You’re spending all that time looking after granny, or whatever - surely running round like a blue arsed fly all day will keep you warm enough, so you won’t need to put the heating on !!

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but don’t forget because we only do 35 hours a week we are finished by Tuesday afternoon so the rest of the time is our own so we can’t keep warm by running around then!

danni0509 · 28/05/2022 08:55

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 08:29

My bad !! All you carers out there moaning about how you were overlooked again - you’re already getting £69.70 for a 35 hour week. That’s a whole £1.99 an hour - why aren’t you more grateful ? Why do you need extra money for fuel bills anyway ? You’re spending all that time looking after granny, or whatever - surely running round like a blue arsed fly all day will keep you warm enough, so you won’t need to put the heating on !!

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Not caring for granny no, my 8 year old ds.

Fuck I deffo don’t need heating on with that whirlwind. Just his presence heats my house! 🤣

Hrpuffnstuff1 · 28/05/2022 09:11

My parents are pensioners, they seem to be on a permanent holiday.
They go on holiday once a month for either a week or this time they've gone for 2 weeks. In fact, when they first retired they traveled the world.

They just said they've turned the stat down 2 degrees and popped an extra £20 a week on their DD.

Legofigure · 28/05/2022 09:14

Harmonypuss · 28/05/2022 02:35

@Sortilege @Dementedswan

I bought my current car but my last two Motability cars cost me ~£3k advance payment each. Not refundable and probably higher now. (Need a large one to fit in all the DC and my wheelchair.) Plus all Motability customers surrender approx £250 of mobility PIP a month to pay for the lease. What’s free about that? People are so dim.

Yes, some people really are that dim.

My first Motability car in 1997 didn't need a deposit paying for it but yes, for each of my subsequent 8 cars, I've paid between £500 & £2,500 non-refundable deposit on them.

The reason people believe Motability vehicles to be free is because as much as we 'forfeit' approx £65/week to be able to lease these vehicles, we're not having to go to work to 'earn' this cash, it's given to us as an element of DLA or PIP.

So no, Motability cars aren't actually 'free', we choose to swap a benefit for them but I guarantee that a massive majority of those of us who have them would rather not have them, or the disabilities we have to live with that give us access to them.

I stand by what I've always said, take away my Motability car, ESA, PIP, the elements of this cash the government are saying I can have over the next x amount of months, BUT you take my disabilities too.

There's another point to be borne in mind as well, ESA is a legacy benefit, as are Carer's allowance, JSA etc. Those of us receiving legacy benefits didn't get the £1,560 uplift in benefits that those in receipt of Universal Credit for over the past 2 years. Don't get me wrong, we don't begrudge them getting it but the govt said it was for those who lost their jobs as a result of the pandemic, but it wasn't, it was paid to 'everyone' on UC, many of whom had either been migrated or moved by choice from legacy benefits to UC, what makes them different from us? The DWP CHOSE to DISCRIMINATE against those of us on legacies, a massive number of whom are disabled and here we are, over 2 years on, still trying to get that out right.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/608486

Carer’s allowance isn’t a legacy benefit, although claimants didn’t get the up lift either. The 6 legacy benefits are housing benefit, income-related ESA, income-based JSA, child tax credits, working tax credits and income support.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 09:14

Sirzy · 28/05/2022 08:52

but don’t forget because we only do 35 hours a week we are finished by Tuesday afternoon so the rest of the time is our own so we can’t keep warm by running around then!

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Well then you can find yourself another job to earn that generous £132 you’re allowed on top of your CA can’t you ? Goodness me, that’s over £200 a week - what are you whining about ? The rest of the time you can ride the buses to keep warm. Pensioners do it all the time - see I told you they were a bunch of freeloaders !!

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 09:15

I think I’ve watched too many Ricky Gervais routines !!

Legofigure · 28/05/2022 09:16

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 08:29

My bad !! All you carers out there moaning about how you were overlooked again - you’re already getting £69.70 for a 35 hour week. That’s a whole £1.99 an hour - why aren’t you more grateful ? Why do you need extra money for fuel bills anyway ? You’re spending all that time looking after granny, or whatever - surely running round like a blue arsed fly all day will keep you warm enough, so you won’t need to put the heating on !!

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The pay becomes even more generous when you care for multiple people but only get one lot of carer’s allowance.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 09:43

Legofigure · 28/05/2022 09:16

The pay becomes even more generous when you care for multiple people but only get one lot of carer’s allowance.

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Doesn’t seem fair does it ? I know a couple of people who live with and care for very elderly parents and they save the care system a fortune. CA rules seem to be saying that if you’re caring for a person for 35 hours a week, you can’t do it more than once, and yet over a 7 day week, that’s only 5 hours a day. In reality, in most cases it’s 24/7.