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Some families to get a total of £1,200 cash, to support with cost of living crisis.

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flashbac · 26/05/2022 13:07

Highlights:
All families can now keep the 200 quid energy payment, no longer repayment based. This will be topped up to £400.
Low income families to get £650 straight into bank account.
(Non means tested) disabled benefit recipients to get £150.
All in all some will receive total of £1,200.
Funded by windfall tax.

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Sirzy · 28/05/2022 09:52

And if you are lucky enough to reach state pension age while receiving carers allowance overnight that persons caring needs disappear so you don’t need the CA anymore!

the80sweregreat · 28/05/2022 10:45

If you receive CA for someone who previously had a pension credits award, that is then taken away as well.

LargeLegoHaul · 28/05/2022 11:27

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 09:43

Doesn’t seem fair does it ? I know a couple of people who live with and care for very elderly parents and they save the care system a fortune. CA rules seem to be saying that if you’re caring for a person for 35 hours a week, you can’t do it more than once, and yet over a 7 day week, that’s only 5 hours a day. In reality, in most cases it’s 24/7.

If 3 people did the caring I did they would each get CA, but because I’m the one who does it all I don’t.

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Sirzy · 28/05/2022 11:34

The carers allowance system relies on the fact that we do it out of love and as tough as it is we keep on doing it. If every unpaid carer was to say “no more” on the same day the system would collapse.

before Ds even goes out to school in the morning I have done the work of a Nurse, OT, physio, respiratory physio and orthotics before starting.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 12:36

Sirzy · 28/05/2022 09:52

And if you are lucky enough to reach state pension age while receiving carers allowance overnight that persons caring needs disappear so you don’t need the CA anymore!

Yep - ESA, CA and state pension are income replacement benefits, so you can’t claim CA, while claiming either of the other two because that’s overlapping benefit. Whichever way you turn they’ve got you !

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 12:38

Sirzy · 28/05/2022 11:34

The carers allowance system relies on the fact that we do it out of love and as tough as it is we keep on doing it. If every unpaid carer was to say “no more” on the same day the system would collapse.

before Ds even goes out to school in the morning I have done the work of a Nurse, OT, physio, respiratory physio and orthotics before starting.

And it’s not enough to buy in help - who else but family is going to do it for less than £2 an hour ?

JustTheOneSwan · 28/05/2022 12:51

Abusing carers is a massive scandal imo completely overlooked.
social care decimated and everyone expected to bring in a wage (most can't survive without it) leaves a gaping hole that is studiously ignored.
we'll all suffer the fallout of this.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/05/2022 15:03

JustTheOneSwan · 28/05/2022 12:51

Abusing carers is a massive scandal imo completely overlooked.
social care decimated and everyone expected to bring in a wage (most can't survive without it) leaves a gaping hole that is studiously ignored.
we'll all suffer the fallout of this.

Unpaid carers are plugging the hole in the broken social care system so they’ll continue to be overlooked. My mum lives with us, and a couple of years ago, when she developed dementia, I investigated getting care services in for her from the local authority. I was offered a carer twice a day - a total of one hour a day, so seven hours a week. Mum would have been a self funder and the cost quoted was just under £500 a month, but the help offered was mostly involving things she can do for herself - washing/bathing and dressing etc, so we ended up getting a cleaning service for a few hours a week instead, to help with housework. That takes the pressure off so we can devote more time to mum ourselves - cheaper and more rewarding. Also less stressful for mum because we’re family. So unpaid carers are doing a job for £1.99 an hour, for which a paid local authority care service would charge over £20 an hour. Puts it into perspective doesn’t it ?

Svara · 28/05/2022 16:22

saraclara · 27/05/2022 19:45

Honest hard working people always get hit the hardest.

Hard working people in very low wages, without security and/or with health issues or caring responsibilities are hit hardest. Along with those who are unable to work due to disability or caring for someone with one. And that's why they get benefits.

If you don't fall into any of those categories, be very grateful for that.

Absolutely! I am a lone parent working full time, plus additional hours at a second job. I'm lucky that I don't need childcare and have no health issues (only autism) so I am able to work more. I don't consider myself to be getting hit the hardest, let alone someone earning too much for any benefits.

WhiteFire · 28/05/2022 16:44

Parentsofaprincess · 27/05/2022 18:45

Very well said! We totally agree. The benefits system is broken like the rest of the country. Honest hard working people always get hit the hardest. This country is a joke, always has been always will be. But to be fair it is the same the world over.

In this funny old world, I work full-time and have to use my car for work. I have a professional degree and work in said profession.

I get CTC's and so will get the additional money, I will also get the £150 DLA money for ds.

So stop with all this shit.

Sirzy · 28/05/2022 17:34

JustTheOneSwan · 28/05/2022 12:51

Abusing carers is a massive scandal imo completely overlooked.
social care decimated and everyone expected to bring in a wage (most can't survive without it) leaves a gaping hole that is studiously ignored.
we'll all suffer the fallout of this.

Exactly. I had to give up a career to become a full time carer for my son. I don’t resent him for a second because I will do what is needed for him but I resent the system that treats me and others like shit

Maddison12 · 28/05/2022 21:41

boysarethebest · 26/05/2022 19:47

Shame on all you people bashing those on benefits and low incomes. How does the poorest in society bring helped out in a time of need affect you? The majority of people on benefits are not the fag smoking sky watching scroungers that the right wing loves to portray. People are understandably angry about the current financial situation but that anger needs to be directed upwards at the oil companies, and the billionaire friends of the tories, and the lying tax dodgers and the big bosses who make millions in bonuses. There is enough in this country for everyone to be comfortable. People who are poor are mostly not lazy, they have had bad luck or experienced dv, or not had the opportunities that others have had. Being financially comfortable and having a good job doesn't make you better than them, it makes you luckier than them.

Hear hear! 👏

Maddison12 · 28/05/2022 21:48

Sirzy · 26/05/2022 20:01

I used to work full time as a Teacher before DS was born and his disabilities became apparent. His father has been awol since he was a baby so it’s all fallen on me.

i Had to give up work in order to be able to care for him. I rely on benefits now, believe me I wish it wasn’t the case.

I wish I was able to just be a parent not a parent carer. I wish I hadn’t had to spend two years shielding him. I wish my life didn’t revolve around appointments and chasing professionals. I wish every night wasn’t disturbed having to sort out feeding pumps. I also know that compared to other carers I have it easy.

people may begrudge people on benefits these payments. For me it means I will be able to afford petrol for his appointments. I will be able to afford to charge his feeding pump. Hey I may even be able to afford a bottle of wine for a Friday night!

very few people rely on benefits out of choice.

Sorry that happened to you, hope things get better soon 💐

Kittypryde101 · 01/06/2022 07:38

I am on what they call legacy benefits from no fault of my own from since my husband ran off with another woman before that I worked nights til 3 he worked days during holidays lucky to get 3 hours sleep after home from work got to sleep 4 up about 7 term time got bit more but holidays nope then he ran off no child care autistic son try finding work fits round holidays only in a school not qualified only thing I could do is lunch lady doesn’t pay as I get carers allowance and that classed as a wage it’s already taken off my income support! Had planed to get training become qualified trenching assistant when son started senior school and dad retired he was going to do pick up as college day longer than school day but then he died! I am now stuck on benefits for even longer! Never though I would be never saw the struggle want to get off I can’t! Yes these payment help no they don’t cover everything rising!

mummyof2boys30 · 05/06/2022 06:38

Does anyone know do you get this if you get the letter from tax credits to say you are entitled to tax credits of x amount but due to your income reduction you actually get nothing? Its our first year of not physically getting any money from tax credits but due to renewal letter saying you are entitled to it makes me think we might. Or maybe wishful thinking

BudgetPlanMum · 05/06/2022 10:21

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Rosscameasdoody · 05/06/2022 10:49

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This is so depressing. It’s just more benefits bashing. I worked as a volunteer benefits adviser and I can assure you that PIP is one of the hardest benefits to claim. I’ve seen countless genuinely severely disabled people have to fight for what they are entitled to. It’s also not my experience that people don’t want to work. Most are in the benefits system having worked and fallen into unemployment or sickness as a result of circumstance, not fecklessness. I appreciate that your job means that you see the crappier side of the benefits system but it doesn’t mean that there are hordes of claimants taking the mick.

Sirzy · 05/06/2022 11:05

For someone to be on the highest level of PIP they have significant disabilities. These things aren’t handed out like sweeties contrary to popular belief.

i find it shocking that people with such judgemental attitudes are working with people who are vulnerable.

Babyroobs · 05/06/2022 11:35

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Yes I work in benefits too and it does worry me this £650 being given out to everyone. people with drug and alcohol dependency being given an extra £800 over a couple of months is never going to be a good idea is it?

Rosscameasdoody · 05/06/2022 11:37

Sirzy · 05/06/2022 11:05

For someone to be on the highest level of PIP they have significant disabilities. These things aren’t handed out like sweeties contrary to popular belief.

i find it shocking that people with such judgemental attitudes are working with people who are vulnerable.

That’s what worried me about this post. The PIP system is broken - inadequately trained assessors who produce consistently inaccurate reports on which inappropriate benefit awards are based. The cost to the taxpayer is enormous - not from fraud or dishonesty, but from the sheer amount of claimants who have to go to expensive independent tribunals to get a fair award - because the system is biased against them from the start. The poster clearly knows very little about how it works and yet feels qualified to comment that the recipients are feckless drug addicts. This is a person working in emergency payments, which deals with people in crisis every day and the post made me wonder how many others have the same judgemental attitude and lack of empathy for people who are quite possibly going through the worst times of their lives.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/06/2022 11:39

Babyroobs · 05/06/2022 11:35

Yes I work in benefits too and it does worry me this £650 being given out to everyone. people with drug and alcohol dependency being given an extra £800 over a couple of months is never going to be a good idea is it?

Instead of denying them the extra money, perhaps more thought could have been put into better ways to target the funding.

BudgetPlanMum · 05/06/2022 11:40

Rosscameasdoody · 05/06/2022 10:49

This is so depressing. It’s just more benefits bashing. I worked as a volunteer benefits adviser and I can assure you that PIP is one of the hardest benefits to claim. I’ve seen countless genuinely severely disabled people have to fight for what they are entitled to. It’s also not my experience that people don’t want to work. Most are in the benefits system having worked and fallen into unemployment or sickness as a result of circumstance, not fecklessness. I appreciate that your job means that you see the crappier side of the benefits system but it doesn’t mean that there are hordes of claimants taking the mick.

You can see I said not all but that I deal with 99% of people who don't want to work.

I'm more more aware how hard PIP is to claim and that many people cannot work due to disabilities as I previously also stated however there are many who don't want work accept it and stop looking for something in my post to find offensive.

As stated in my post 'lots of conflicting opinions' and from life and work experience that is my opinion and nothing will change it.

angieloumc · 05/06/2022 11:44

But you are offensive. You are saying 1% of the people you see DO want them work and the rest don't.
I volunteer one day a week in a food bank and I can guarantee that almost all of the unemployed people who come in want to work.

angieloumc · 05/06/2022 11:44

Apologies DO want to work not them.

BudgetPlanMum · 05/06/2022 11:46

Rosscameasdoody · 05/06/2022 11:37

That’s what worried me about this post. The PIP system is broken - inadequately trained assessors who produce consistently inaccurate reports on which inappropriate benefit awards are based. The cost to the taxpayer is enormous - not from fraud or dishonesty, but from the sheer amount of claimants who have to go to expensive independent tribunals to get a fair award - because the system is biased against them from the start. The poster clearly knows very little about how it works and yet feels qualified to comment that the recipients are feckless drug addicts. This is a person working in emergency payments, which deals with people in crisis every day and the post made me wonder how many others have the same judgemental attitude and lack of empathy for people who are quite possibly going through the worst times of their lives.

At what point did I say its given to feckless drug addicts only? Read the post properly and you can see that I said there are people who can't work due to disabilities the work I do I do deal with people who squander money on drugs and alcohol and are paid PIP due to these addictions and they will squander this money and I understand people's frustration over this.

Your all doing selective reading of my post and focusing on that but knock yourselves out lol.

My opinion read my post correctly. Usual on here people pull apart anything said. Bet you wouldn't feel sorry for these drug addled people if they where living near you, or abusing you in employment or being a general scum. Not everyone deserves sympathy.

But again my post wasn't focusing on this solely yet you all have decided it is.

Its ok sure all of you donating £400 cash to tax dodging charity or food banks makes you superior to me 😁