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Some families to get a total of £1,200 cash, to support with cost of living crisis.

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flashbac · 26/05/2022 13:07

Highlights:
All families can now keep the 200 quid energy payment, no longer repayment based. This will be topped up to £400.
Low income families to get £650 straight into bank account.
(Non means tested) disabled benefit recipients to get £150.
All in all some will receive total of £1,200.
Funded by windfall tax.

OP posts:
BudgetPlanMum · 05/06/2022 13:33

Wow I won't lose any sleep over the opinion of you and 2 people on mumsnet 🤣

angieloumc · 05/06/2022 13:51

Let's just hope your managers pick up on your attitude to vulnerable people. I can't imagine everyone you work with us like you.

Jott · 05/06/2022 13:55

BudgetPlanMum · 05/06/2022 12:55

Using to pay off debt is a sensible decision and I'm sure many people will use for things such as this or topping up energy, big food shops etc. However many won't and giving an addict £800 cash is just stupid.

In an ideal world these people would have a support worker to help manage money and assist to purchase 3hats needed but it's not an ideal world.

Vouchers that can be redeemed against energy or ones such as love to shop cards which can be used in all major supermarkets and budget ones would also be good.

Someone mentioned food stamps and how people would rather starve than use them. Pretty sure that's not the case who would rather starve than use a pre paid card which is how food stamps are paid in America as a debit type card preloaded.

As someone without addictions I would not be averse to getting assistance in this way myself. Some vouchers for Iceland, Aldi etc yes please.

The take up rate for food stamps is just 48%, less than half of all those entitled to them. One of the main reasons cited for not taking them up is stigma so yes, there are people who would rather starve than take food stamps/vouchers and voucher schemes directly harm these people.

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MissNothing1991 · 05/06/2022 15:51

LadyCatStark · 26/05/2022 13:10

Might as well give up work then…

As someone out of work who receives universal credit. I can assure you, it isn't a fun way to live. After rent, bills etc, I have less than 100 a week to feed me and a 3yo along with purchases such as nappies, clothing, shoes. No such thing for me because there's no money left as that 100 also includes paying for pay as I go gas and electric. Comments like this piss me right off.

BudgetPlanMum · 05/06/2022 16:25

angieloumc · 05/06/2022 13:51

Let's just hope your managers pick up on your attitude to vulnerable people. I can't imagine everyone you work with us like you.

Well seeing as my managers are also frustrated by how the funding is spent then I doubt it 😅

angieloumc · 05/06/2022 17:17

I find it hard to believe everyone in your office has an attitude like you.
I mean, you say you're getting the £650; what's makes you more deserving than the people you're talking about?

Svara · 05/06/2022 17:33

angieloumc · 05/06/2022 17:17

I find it hard to believe everyone in your office has an attitude like you.
I mean, you say you're getting the £650; what's makes you more deserving than the people you're talking about?

I don't think they are saying that anyone is not deserving, just that it is pointless giving money to people who do not have the capacity or support available to manage money and to ensure their needs are met.

angieloumc · 05/06/2022 17:35

I absolutely understand that. However the poster is saying that only 1% of the service users she comes across 'want to work' and the rest will blow their money on drink/drugs whatever. I'm sure some may do that but I find it hard to believe 99% will.

Babyroobs · 05/06/2022 17:47

MissNothing1991 · 05/06/2022 15:51

As someone out of work who receives universal credit. I can assure you, it isn't a fun way to live. After rent, bills etc, I have less than 100 a week to feed me and a 3yo along with purchases such as nappies, clothing, shoes. No such thing for me because there's no money left as that 100 also includes paying for pay as I go gas and electric. Comments like this piss me right off.

Exactly. Basic Uc for people out of work is an absolute pittance. It becomes a lot better for people with kids if they can work even a few hours because of the work allowance, but without any work it is a very low amount. I don't know how people survive on it. I had one of my work clients ( single person escaping DV ), last week and worked out after she had paid her rent she had £135 a month left to live off, that was before she paid any council tax etc. Shocking.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/06/2022 19:38

BudgetPlanMum · 05/06/2022 11:55

Thank you thisbis what I was trying to say in my original post. Large majority of people will play system and also those with additions mostly never put essential needs first. Everyone has skipped past my part where I stated some people on basic benefits do struggle and is a shame for them and this with disabilities.

In your role you must see the same frustrating behaviour I have to deal with.

I agree energy vouchers and vouchers to be used in all major shops ie love to shop vouchers would be good for those people. Better yet adequate support workers yo help them manage money but that's another post of under funded local services.

But it isn’t a large majority of people ‘playing the system’. Official figures back this up. There are always a minority of people who will do so but please don’t exaggerate because it’s really insulting to the overwhelming majority who find themselves claiming benefits because of circumstances beyond their control. There seems to be a real lack of understanding on here as to how the benefits system works. The vast majority of claimants are also tax payers - and have worked and paid NI contributions. So why continue stigmatise people for claiming from a system for which they have contributed to while they are able, so that they can call on those contributions when they need them ?

sashh · 06/06/2022 02:31

spuddy56 · 26/05/2022 13:51

Why can't a vulnerable household be a working couple who can't afford to move out of a freezing rental cottage with wind and rain blowing through it. Our house doesn't get above 16 with the heating on a lot of the time. But we won't get help despite rising commute costs, rent costs and house prices hitting us hardest.

Apart from the £400 and the £150.

LadyCatStark · 06/06/2022 07:40

MissNothing1991 · 05/06/2022 15:51

As someone out of work who receives universal credit. I can assure you, it isn't a fun way to live. After rent, bills etc, I have less than 100 a week to feed me and a 3yo along with purchases such as nappies, clothing, shoes. No such thing for me because there's no money left as that 100 also includes paying for pay as I go gas and electric. Comments like this piss me right off.

Yeah? So do we, except we also have extortionate commuting costs to come out of that too. That’s not a fun way to live either…

whowhatwerewhy · 06/06/2022 07:50

I think it's very frustrating that some ( not all ) refuse overtime or extra shifts because it "affects my benefits " it's people like that who grate on my nerves .

Harmonypuss · 06/06/2022 08:19

As someone out of work who receives universal credit. I can assure you, it isn't a fun way to live. After rent, bills etc, I have less than 100 a week to feed me and a 3yo along with purchases such as nappies, clothing, shoes. No such thing for me because there's no money left as that 100 also includes paying for pay as I go gas and electric. Comments like this piss me right off.

Exactly. Basic Uc for people out of work is an absolute pittance. It becomes a lot better for people with kids if they can work even a few hours because of the work allowance, but without any work it is a very low amount. I don't know how people survive on it. I had one of my work clients ( single person escaping DV ), last week and worked out after she had paid her rent she had £135 a month left to live off, that was before she paid any council tax etc. Shocking.

I'm disabled, I worked and paid tax, NI, etc from the age of 16 until i was diagnosed at 26 and for 16yrs after that although should have given up work earlier as my health and work were suffering but I managed to hang on until my whole team was made redundant (NHS in 2011) and i had to give up at that point. So I've paid into the system and am unable to work through no fault of my own.
Since then, even with PIP on top on my ESA, by the time I've paid all my bills I've only got just over £100 to feed and clothe myself for a month, not a week.
The money I'll get as part of this raft of help will be split into about 4 chunks, so even those of us who will be eligible for the whole £1200 won't get it in one big lump, the £650 is to be paid in 2 parts payable 'from July and September', the £400 that everyone will get on their electric bills is 'allegedly' coming in October and the disabled element of £150 is said to be coming in January.
The Govt said that we'd all be getting the original £150 through our council tax in April and a great many of us are still waiting for that and it's now June, so if that is anything to go by, I'm not holding my breath expecting this new raft of funding to actually arrive on time.
When these chunks of cash arrive, mine will definitely be going straight onto my utility bills, nowhere else. At least then, I may make it through to next spring with the lights on, even if I still can't afford to put the heating on.

whowhatwerewhy · 06/06/2022 09:01

even those of us who will be eligible for the whole £1200 won't get it in one big lump, the £650 is to be paid in 2 parts payable 'from July and September', the £400 that everyone will get on their electric bills is 'allegedly' coming in October and the disabled element of £150 is said to be coming in January.
The Govt said that we'd all be getting the original £150 through our council tax in April and a great many of us are still waiting for that and it's now June,

Does it matter if it's one big chunk or smaller payments? Your getting it .
Yes the government announced £150 council tax rebate with no system in place , someone who's only had a 1.75 % pay rise , that in some cases is less than the £650 being given out , has to sort out how it's going to work.
Sorry some have to wait but it's better to wait than get nothing

Sirzy · 06/06/2022 09:03

The government decided to go against its own rules for benefit rises each year as they decided the inflation figures were a false reflection. So all this lump sum is really is what should have been given as the normal annual increase. But announcing it this way helps to feed their anti-benefit rhetoric

BudgetPlanMum · 06/06/2022 10:09

angieloumc · 05/06/2022 17:35

I absolutely understand that. However the poster is saying that only 1% of the service users she comes across 'want to work' and the rest will blow their money on drink/drugs whatever. I'm sure some may do that but I find it hard to believe 99% will.

I said I DEAL WITH HIGH PERCENT THAT DONT WANT TO WORK. I didn't say EVERYONE ON BENEFITS DOESNT WANT TO WORK. What part if that can you just not grasp? Is there something preventing you from accepting that out of the whole of the UK and the millions of people working and not working while claim benefits I deal with a small percentage and the percentage I deal with 99% will do anything NOT TO WORK. Anyone keen to work or getting top up benefits I rarely deal with as they don't approach us. Explained this how many times now? As a person who deals head on with this percentage of people that is mine and my teams findings. I dont deal with EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON BENEFITS IN THE UK. I deal with a small percent and from that small group yes only about 1% are genuine cases of people in a bad situation who don't want to be there. Have I broke it down enough for you and other here to comprehend? That I might deal with 15% of the overall population who claim a benefit and that from that amount only 1% are trying to get on? I stated on original posy I MYAELF CLAIM TAX CREDIT WHILE WORKING SO HOW COULD I SAY EVERYONE ON BENEFITS DOESNT WANT TO WORK WHEN I AM EXPERIENCED ENOUGH IN MY OWN ROLE IN ADMINISTERING BENEFITS TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN BE LOW PAID AND NEED THE HELP OR HAVE DISABILITY AND CLAIM PIP AND CANT WORK OR CLAIM PIP AND STILL WORK AS PER MY COLLEAGUE WHO CLAIMS PIP FOR HER OWN HEALTH ISSUES AND STILL WORKS. MY FULL POINT FOR ALL YOU MORONS WHO CANT SEEM TO SEE PAST 1 POINT OF THE POST IS THAT 'I can understand how those who WORK and get NO HELP but have high outgoings and low disposable income would be frustrated' I hope I have now explained this in a way that everyone who loves to get self righteous and jump on their high horse and pick apart one part of a statement now can understand. Really are unbearable and thick as mince some people on here 😁

angieloumc · 06/06/2022 10:17

Are you sure you're alright? You seem very angry.
And just to let you know I'm not 'thick as mince', despite being a 'moron' as you so eloquently put it.
People are allowed to have different opinions to you.

BudgetPlanMum · 06/06/2022 11:08

angieloumc · 06/06/2022 10:17

Are you sure you're alright? You seem very angry.
And just to let you know I'm not 'thick as mince', despite being a 'moron' as you so eloquently put it.
People are allowed to have different opinions to you.

Yes I'm fine just had to CAPS to ensure you could understand as you seem to struggle to comprehend basic information.

angieloumc · 06/06/2022 11:14

You're really very rude.
Just to let you know, I can understand 'basic information' perfectly well. What you wrote in your last post was information you didn't include in your first so perhaps you yourself should check your own comprehension.

ClaudineClare · 06/06/2022 11:15

Hope you are not at work today BudgetPlanMum.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/06/2022 11:46

BudgetPlanMum · 06/06/2022 10:09

I said I DEAL WITH HIGH PERCENT THAT DONT WANT TO WORK. I didn't say EVERYONE ON BENEFITS DOESNT WANT TO WORK. What part if that can you just not grasp? Is there something preventing you from accepting that out of the whole of the UK and the millions of people working and not working while claim benefits I deal with a small percentage and the percentage I deal with 99% will do anything NOT TO WORK. Anyone keen to work or getting top up benefits I rarely deal with as they don't approach us. Explained this how many times now? As a person who deals head on with this percentage of people that is mine and my teams findings. I dont deal with EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON BENEFITS IN THE UK. I deal with a small percent and from that small group yes only about 1% are genuine cases of people in a bad situation who don't want to be there. Have I broke it down enough for you and other here to comprehend? That I might deal with 15% of the overall population who claim a benefit and that from that amount only 1% are trying to get on? I stated on original posy I MYAELF CLAIM TAX CREDIT WHILE WORKING SO HOW COULD I SAY EVERYONE ON BENEFITS DOESNT WANT TO WORK WHEN I AM EXPERIENCED ENOUGH IN MY OWN ROLE IN ADMINISTERING BENEFITS TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN BE LOW PAID AND NEED THE HELP OR HAVE DISABILITY AND CLAIM PIP AND CANT WORK OR CLAIM PIP AND STILL WORK AS PER MY COLLEAGUE WHO CLAIMS PIP FOR HER OWN HEALTH ISSUES AND STILL WORKS. MY FULL POINT FOR ALL YOU MORONS WHO CANT SEEM TO SEE PAST 1 POINT OF THE POST IS THAT 'I can understand how those who WORK and get NO HELP but have high outgoings and low disposable income would be frustrated' I hope I have now explained this in a way that everyone who loves to get self righteous and jump on their high horse and pick apart one part of a statement now can understand. Really are unbearable and thick as mince some people on here 😁

Wow this is rude. I think I replied to your post earlier too because your lack of empathy for the people you deal with, and their circumstances was concerning. I think in the main people are fed up with stereotypical attitudes being directed at benefit claimants and your original post really just reinforced that. I also agree that the type of claimants you will see as service users depends on the type of benefits you deal with, but all have their issues and deserve to be treated with empathy and respect. Your attitude to other posters on here - name calling and insults etc, also speaks to the perceived attitude you have towards your service users.

BudgetPlanMum · 06/06/2022 11:47

angieloumc · 06/06/2022 11:14

You're really very rude.
Just to let you know, I can understand 'basic information' perfectly well. What you wrote in your last post was information you didn't include in your first so perhaps you yourself should check your own comprehension.

It was included you chose to just ignore it and drill on about what you found offensive by not paying attention.

Your like a dog with a bone must be unbearable to live with constantly picking apart what people say.

Oh well some people just love to take offense 🤣

Rosscameasdoody · 06/06/2022 11:48

Sirzy · 06/06/2022 09:03

The government decided to go against its own rules for benefit rises each year as they decided the inflation figures were a false reflection. So all this lump sum is really is what should have been given as the normal annual increase. But announcing it this way helps to feed their anti-benefit rhetoric

This. All day long.

BudgetPlanMum · 06/06/2022 11:48

ClaudineClare · 06/06/2022 11:15

Hope you are not at work today BudgetPlanMum.

No I have a holiday today perks of civil service job 😁

So I'll be on here same as you lot that are never done scrolling as your main source entertainment sad act.

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