Texas school shooting!

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Just watching on news now.. shocking!

This is heartbreaking. I do not understand why the gun laws in the USA have not changed. Gun crime, innocent adults and innocent children nurseries again and again.

Children and staff should be safe in school

I am actually quite baffled by much of America. The prominence of 'pro life' campaigners over turning abortion laws but defending gun laws that put children in a classroom at risk of this. It's fucking disgusting. And the misogyny is actually making my brain hurt (women can't have autonomy over their own bodies but we'll let the menz have guns to shoot the kids (and it really is almost always men))

And someone will come on to say something about knife crime. Yeah, we've got a knife crime problem in the uk but how much easier is it to kill a dozen people with a semi automatic rifle than a knife.

It'll never change and it's really sad.

They insist on their right to bare arms. What about innocent children's right to be safe at school?

Rest in peace little ones, and your teacher too.

Humanity appalls me at times.

Those poor, poor little ones and their teacher.

I agree. It doesn’t shock me any more either, yet another shooting in a country where half of the population turn a blind eye to children being gunned down at school. As you said the argument was dead in the water after Sandy Hook and the many many others that followed since.

The tragedy is those lives lost so unnecessarily.

You can still be sad.
Some little folk went to school today.
Some are now in hospital with gunshot wounds.
Some more won't be coming home, ever again.
Disagree with U.S. Policy on guns and many other things but still be sad, the little ones couldn't shoot back.

The laws haven't changed because a majority of Americans still believe that their right to carry guns is more important than their children's right to be safe in school. It's as simple as that.

How many innocent children's lives are considered to be a price worth paying in exchange for the right to bear arms? I don't know, but it seems like the answer at the moment is as many as it takes. Maybe, one day, the American people will decide that enough is enough, but at the moment, they seem quite content to let it keep happening.

You couldn't pay me to live in the US.

I lived out in America for a year, made loads of lovely friends and absolutely loved it.
Their obsession with guns I NEVER understood.

The right to bear arms was written when the arm in question was a musket. You can do a lot more damage with modern day weapons.

Also, some people will argue we have knife attacks, it would be one hell of a knife attack to murder 14 people in one go.
Fortunately a lot of people survive stabbings and If people do die, it’s 1 or 2 before someone stops them.

The US is basically the cesspit of the world. There is so much wrong with the place yet the government and it's people stand in such high moral judgement over the rest of the world. It's a nation driven by guns and religious extremism. Eurgh. Vile.

Horrendous

poor children, just awful to think about

You are so right.

Majority are Christian too which is a bit rich. No abortions yet mass shootings are excusable, come praise the Lord at the Evangelical church and don’t forget to vote GOP. NRA bumper stickers all round.

Madness.

WTF?

Plus the gun lobby is SO powerful and literally written into the constitution. It’s a very big bell to unring, politically, culturally and historically.

So fucking awful.

Horrific. I’m heartbroken for those young children.
Im fucking furious at any American who sends ‘prayers’ while defending gun laws.

And yet a worryingly large percentage of people from the USA think this is fine and not a reason to change their gun laws cos “iTs Ma RyT tO bE sHoOtIn GuRrRrnZ”. It was those kids/staffs rights to not get shot, let alone shot IN SCHOOL but there we are. Absolutely horrendous and I’m so sorry to any children/staff who were hurt/killed and their families.

I can't imagine the pain. Just little kids. If there's one difference between USA and UK it's this.

The Onion, satirical news site, runs a series of articles about such shootings ... and the Buffalo one was #20

www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848930767

In the hours following a violent rampage in upstate New York in which a lone attacker killed 10 individuals and injured three others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Wednesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said New York resident Anthony Grady, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this individual from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past eight years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

So awful. Those poor children and families. Makes me so mad at him. Sooo mad. And he doesn’t even get to suffer for it.

Also scary fact, there are more guns that people in the USA. In a population of approx 330 million, there’s MORE GUNS THAN PEOPLE.

and yet they still insist they are the greatest country on Earth.

Heartbreaking. I don’t agree that Americans think right to arms out trumps right to like, some will think that I’m sure, but most pro gun people will say that guns will always be available illegally, they want a legal right to protect themselves, of course they aren’t really making themselves safer, and lots of Americans are in favour of stricter gun laws, especially in more cosmopolitan areas. I have cousins who don’t own guns, don’t want to and would welcome more regulations.
US government is set up to make it incredibly difficult to pass laws that are not supported by both parties. It seems money can buy huge influence too.

The noisy campaigns for forced birth under the banner of pro life in Texas while there’s seemingly no appetite for any gun control seems crazy, but banning abortion isn’t about life, it’s about control, which is why it’s compatible with gun ownership.

www.gunviolencearchive.org/query/0484b316-f676-44bc-97ed-ecefeabae077

Mass* shootings in America for the year to date. I make it 212 for 2022, and we're not even halfway through the year yet.

*4 or more people injured or killed.

@lemmein - you’ll already see I have previously posted earlier in the thread about how horrific it is that the US’s gun laws make it possible for this to take place. My second comment I believe is a fair WTF at why someone can legitimately say they feel safer in the US when the lobbying, wealthy bullies are able to totally ignore massacres that take place in schools again and again. The US is NOT safe. All countries have problems but their inability to own and deal with this is inexcusable. A single terrible incident took place place in a UK school and laws came into place - why can the land of the free not follow?!