Texas school shooting!

[youngestisapsycho]

Just watching on news now.. shocking!

Basketball coach, Steve Kerr, gives a powerful pre-match press conference:

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The world is such an awful place at the moment. Like others I am feeling utterly defeated by it.

I can't imagine living in a place where gun owners and 7 week old foetuses are put before young children. I can't imagine the terror those children went through and the nightmare their parents are now living. It's just horrible.

How is a teenager even allowed to buy a gun? Just raise the age limit at the very least.
He was too young to drink alcohol, but old enough to kill people?

Those poor babies and the parents, there are no words, im in the uk and my kids now have drills for this situation.

Our schools were open plan too... I was teaching in England at the time of Dunblane. You could just walk into schools. Indeed someone walked into that school and nicked staff handbags. Now it is security fences and locked outer doors.

I’ve said this before but America is a third world country with a Gucci belt on.
I really don’t want to speak about the country as a whole but lately I have no idea what’s going on there. that’s the second shooting in ten days,
both carried out by late teenagers , both just happened to own automatic rifles, Something is more disturbing than just the easiness of owning Arms,

I’m with you. This planet would be so much better without people. theres good individuals. But far outweighed in number by, just people, with selfish wants, taking more, resources then they need.

Dunblane was horrific ,but I'm glad people can't just walk into school in the uk anymore even in my sons mainstream high school everything is locked off ,,huge contrast yep my high school in the 80,s anybody could have wandered in from the streets.

whilst the uks mental health support is woeful. Where would you even start in America to access it if you didn’t have cover?

i was thinking about this too. Isn’t vegas an open carry state?
i know the shooter was from a window so you’d have to identify them.

Dunblane was horrific ,but I'm glad people can't just walk into school in the uk anymore even in my sons mainstream high school everything is locked off

i am also much happier living in a mostly gun free society. My neighbour has a gun licence for competitive shooting and the Police do very thorough checks. Not just tick boxes but proper conversations about their personality and any conversations you may have had.

americans don’t seem to understand that having armed civilians actually does fuck all to stop their “bad men with guns”. Far better and more effective to have specialised, trained armed response units who can take a suspect out without getting loads more civilians shot in the process. More chance of surviving if you hide than if you whip out a gun and join in the shooting.

We got a train from San Diego to LA a few days ago on our way home, there was a sign at the ticket desk asking people to check in their guns before boarding. The fact that it was so normal totally freaked me out.

@EurovisionTragic
We are a shameful species, we really are.
Your plan is the answer.
Animals and nature every time. I genuinely hope you get there.

The thing is the constitution says 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

But none of these people with guns are part of a 'well regulated militia' are they? They're talking about the right to bear arms without bothering to do anything about the condition for that.

It doesn't say any random angry man should have a gun so he can kill loads of kids. Which is what's happening.

The Onion is on point as always - I think they just recycle this every time there's a mass shooting (every few months, I guess).
'No way to prevent this', says only nation where this regularly happens'
www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848930767

also this
'Armed Teacher Rehearses Shooting Wall, Gunman, 3 Students During Active Shooter Drill'
www.theonion.com/armed-teacher-rehearses-shooting-wall-gunman-3-studen-1841767233

@ChristineCagney11 I was listening to a Radio4 programme last night on the Saclas (sp?) About that.

Thanks to all American based posters who have explained things there. It is eye opening.

And our country is not that great either sometimes with concerning things going on. Government (not just partygate either) and crime wise...

I am beginning to see why religion is so prevalent and why thoughts and prayers are offered. You can't rely on the state to support you and there is lack of control over some big stuff you need to rely on yourself and or some unseen higher power...

Shooters also target supermarkets, petrol stations, churches, universities, stadiums………. Home schooling isn’t going to keep people safe. Stopping the sale of assault weapons could make a difference, as Biden said “ Deer don’t wear body armour” . But apparently the profit on assault weapons is greater than the profit on hunting rifles.

Such a horrific thing to have happened and sadly not isolated. Whilst I appreciate it isn't as simple as just ban guns and kids won't be killed tighter restrictions would go a long way! There is no reason to own the types of weapons some of these killers do. They were designed for mass destruction not sport.

Good God, what awful news to wake up to 😭
How the hell has he been able to get into a school, given their track record of school shootings?
Just appalling 💔

And our country is not that great either sometimes with concerning things going on

still rather live here with no mass shootings (or at least incredibly rare), access to clean water, healthcare free at the point of delivery, ability to make my own choices regarding my own body….

Want to know why it will never change?
Far from the only ones. Extended list here: twitter.com/bessbell

They sit in McDonalds with their guns at their side in Texas - there are few gun laws in Texas. They even have Christmas specials on guns. This is why so much of this happens there.

Steve Kerr's father was Malcolm Kerr, the president of the American University of Beirut, who was assassinated during the Lebanese civil war. Steve has always been very outspoken about gun violence, I wish more people in sports were.

The mentality is hard to understand.

Texas Gun Laws: Some Q & A
Q: Do I need a permit to buy handguns or long arms in Texas?
A: No.
However, you must be at least 18 to purchase a long arm, 21 or older to buy a handgun, and 18+ to possess a firearm in general (there are exceptions to this last rule for minors using guns under adult supervision).

Q: Does Texas require residents to register long arms or handguns?
A: No.

Q: Does Texas have an “assault weapons” law?
A: No.

Q: Does Texas require an owner license for firearms?
A: No.

Q: Do Texas gun laws permit the concealed carry of handguns?
A: Yes, contingent upon the carrier possessing the appropriate permit.
However, there are restrictions on where a firearm may be carried, such as public offices and certain types of private property.
Details on Texas’ concealed carry statutes follow this section of this article.

Read somewhere recently that the biggest cause of death to under 18s in the US is gunshot wounds.

how did a society end up there?

@RitaFaircloughsWig
Basically next to no laws for gun control in Texas.
I honestly don't know how this is ever going to change there.
In Japan and in the UK because of Dunblane things were mostly nipped in the bud early on. Australia had a big gun problem but managed to reign it in.
If it's not been stopped by now in the US given all the shootings will it ever ?
I don't mean people can't try but what has to change ?