Boris Johnson, FPN's, and Sue Gray report due. Thread 5

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Lol! madness that anyone thinks BJ knows what a woman is or even cares.

Be fair, he is very very familiar with certain parts of women's anatomy.

They want to frighten MPs, members and voters - better the devil you know.

Voters don't want “regicide and more naval-gazing”.

Passing over the regicide comment, generally speaking voters don't like parties in disarray. The last two years of local elections have shown us that quite clearly - where the governing party has been conducting a civil war, the electorate's response has been to give the whole party the boot.

Bring it on, I say - if the current Tory party is destroyed it will be no loss whatever.

Regicide comment is shocking. Goodness knows why I'm shocked really.

Not committing either way, a real non answer.

"Unacceptable failures of leadership that cannot be tolerated" - she's definitely trying to signal that she might have put her letter in but yes noncommittal.

She's remembered that the hands that wields the knife doesn't wear the crown and wants to run for leadership.

Hmm, I’m pretty sure that in some cases it’s better to cast out the devil and regroup with what’s left.

I'd expect better from Andrea Leadsom.
Still nothing from mine although she did say on the local politics show that she's now waiting for the standards committee
Nothing like owning your own moral and ethical standards.

Britain Elects latest

Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 42% (+2)
CON: 31% (-3)
LDEM: 11% (+1)
GRN: 3% (-2)

via @SavantaComRes, 27 - 29 May
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Really? Someone who treats the "ordinary people" like fools whether they are male or female or not even sure.

I don't care if he knows what a woman is if he treats people decently and behaves decently himself.

she's now waiting for the standards committee

Sounds like the Hogwarts Express will turn up before she commits a firm comment to the public record.

Lord Moylan is having a mare defending the indefensible on LBC

'Johnson never read his own legislation'
'The law doesn't use the word party'

'The law doesn't use the word party'

When is a gathering a party?
Maybe someone will test it in court, like the time the issue of whether a Jaffa cake was a cake or a biscuit went to court.

Quite.

She will be waiting for Godot next.

I saw this comment which I think is spot on;
"Operation Save Big Dog" will become "Operation Save Yourselves"

Urgh, operation big dog sounds like a Ruby team having a stag do for a player. there’s no introspection is there?

i remember in my twenties a forty year old hanging around with us to go clubbing. It felt a bit dismal and desperate then. I’m getting the same cringe from this lot.

Operation Save Big Dog gives me bloody rage. It's all such a jolly wheeze to them. No sense of gravitas at all. Like when Patel was being investigated for bullying and he kept referring to her as The Pritster. Are you running the country or the fucking toffs youth club?

No 10 has been compared to the Bullingdon Club

God, yes, that really annoys me to. Act with some gravitas and decorum FFS. You're not at school, you are in the most privileged position supposedly running the country.

Also what does my 'ead in, is this collective 'the public want', 'the voters don't want' nonsense.
Crap. This country is divided so do not dare to speak for me and others and say 'the public want to move on'. If they all did, we wouldn't be talking about it.

'The law doesn't use the word party'

Well, no. It uses the word "gathering", which is actually a whole lot easier to define. When you find yourself in a room with a group of people and a load of booze, making a speech and raising a toast to someone, that's pretty indisputably a gathering, and not one that is reasonably necessary for work.

The weird thing is that Johnson himself has conveniently forgotten the purpose of these restrictions. He may have thought that attending a leaving do was a nice thing to do, but the simple fact is that it didn't affect one iota anyone's ability to do their work in no. 10 - and the virus isn't going to give anyone a pass because they're doing something nice.

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The telling us what the voters/public/people want drives me mad. I feel like I don't exist.

Spot on @Dashdotdotdash. the campaign to baffle us with bs was horrendously successful when the basic facts speak for themselves.

BJ’s excuses of ‘staff morale’ for people working during a difficult period - they could have all joined together and clapped on a Thursday night which is closest the rest of us got to anything approaching a ‘morale’ boost, working or not working (I worked through all the lockdowns for clarity - much like no. 10 in a cushy NHS office role whilst mayhem unfolded around me)

Dickhead.

That Moylan interview has given me the complete rage. Does he think we're all completely stupid?
Is he trying to say... because the word 'party' isn't mentioned in the covid legislation, it's OK?
Well.... the word karaoke isn't mentioned either, does that make bringing one in to work to drink and sing together is OK too?

I hope a lot of people see that interview and get as cross as I am. Because it's treating the public as idiots.

...and there was foolish me believing you when you said you didn't like Bojo.

Tories gonna do what Tories do.....

No wonder the original meaning of the word "Tory" is Robbers and Outlaws.