Boris Johnson, FPN's, and Sue Gray report due. Thread 5

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www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4545092-boris-and-his-fines-part-4

Previous thread!

Harriet Harman is a good choice.

Rory Stewart explains it well

Rory Stewart is asked to name a time when Johnson lied to him personally. He obliges.
twitter.com/unlit_uplands/status/1529764129644363776?t=amoPYJrPIdZjV35I5SzRHg&s=19

I sincerely hope that Johnson can be brought down by something stupid - like Chris Huhne for getting his wife to take his speeding points, and then serve a prison sentence to rub it in.

Senior conservative MP Sir Bob Neil has handed in his letter of no confidence.

Johnson will probably call a snap election. Then of course it will be up to his Constituents to give him the boot. Where ideally they would need to stand an Anti-corruption candidate as Martin Bell did.

Does Johnson have the support of his constituency?

I don't think so. Someone posted that he is projected to lose his seat if there was an election today.

(sorry I can't find the post without a proper search function)

I think he supported Johnson's leadership bid so that's quite a turnaround.

This is really shocking and I'm worried it won't get nearly enough attention.

We are truly in Bunga Bunga Borisconi land now.

I've just written to my MP, a loyal Johnson minister, and told him I will never vote for him if he continues to support Johnson. For all the good it'll do.

Interesting that Dominic Cummings didn't receive a questionnaire regarding Partygate. He was present at 2 events.
I wondered if they thought he'd land the PM in it.

In fairness ‘the highest standards of propriety’ are stated in the previous paragraph. However it’s completely farcical coming from him - which is why he needs to go. He has zero credibility to talk about integrity , honesty or principles. He has no evidence from his time as PM to back up he can achieve any of these things. And it would be an achievement because none of these things are part of his nature.

I'm reading more about the amendments to Ministerial Code - he's removed the sections warning Ministers not to bully staff or have conflicts of interest. Unbelievable.

WTF
How on earth is this legal for him to do or why does nobody around Borisconi (excellent, NotOnTheStairs!) tell him how absolutely corrupt and appalling all this behaviour is? It’s not fitting to the level of probity expected of a small primary schoolchild, let alone the Prime Minister of GB & NI.

I wish I understood more about the Ministerial Code and how this can come about.
All I have read is that it can be reversed by the next Government. So it obviously doesn't need a vote.

I know I'm like a broken record but I'm convinced Johnson didn't complete questionnaires for all the events he attended (just the one where he was ambushed by cake and photographed doing it). He's getting away with effing murder.

"One fears that senior figures – with access to competent legal advice – were advised not to complete or return the questionnaires, while more junior figures – not aware of their options and perhaps even trying to be helpful – basically wrote out their own fixed penalty notices.
If this is the case – and few will know for certain – then what was being actually sanctioned was not wrongdoing, but naivety."
davidallengreen.com/2022/05/of-partygate-questionnaires-and-police-discretion-some-footnotes-to-yesterdays-post/

That was me.

I think it was from this website.
www.politics.co.uk/reference/latest-opinion-polls/
But their latest analysis on 18th May doesn't mention Boris, but does say that Raab is a goner. I suspect Uxbridge is to close to call based on the UK polls, but hope that there is sufficient additional local feeling that people vent.

I looked up a bit odd history and it has been amended a number of times in recent years - generally to add obligations not to reduce them!

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/ministerial-code

I should have thought that was highly likely.

I urge everyone who finds this act of self preservation offensive to write to their Tory MPs and ask them to start the search for a collective backbone. Hopefully the blond baby can be booted out before he actually designs his coronation as World King and boots Her Majesty out at her jubilee. There is nothing he will not do.

And are we quite sure Johnson can't just rewrite the voting rules so he'd only need his wife and Wilf to vote?

At this point I'm only half joking....

They already have brought to in voter ID for England

They already have brought to in voter ID for England

I half think that this may backfire on them since Tory voters tend to be elderly. My parents have now passed away but stopped driving so didn't have driving licences, stopped travelling so didn't renew their passports, weren't steady enough on their feet so felt they couldn't catch buses and therefore didn't bother with bus passes. So what photographic ID did they have?

My DCs by contrast rushed out to get passports the moment they were 18 so that they could prove they were old enough to go into pubs.

Agree with some of that as I'd never thought of it that way.

But the thought process of many has been it's done to exclude those more likely to vote Labour as they often don't holiday and can't afford passports or driving.

I finally caught up with all Panorama last night.

Why does LK describe Starmers campaign gathering/social as a party with beers and Johnson's always as gatherings - even the one he was fined for!

I thought the BBC were meant to be impartial? But their choice of words isnt even if the present both sides.