Boris Johnson, FPN's, and Sue Gray report due. Thread 5

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www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4545092-boris-and-his-fines-part-4

Previous thread!

Wow! Not very professional was she?
What a state to be in when that level of venom and vitriol is shown on the front bench in the House of Commons.
Some fucker needs to get a grip fast.
Disgraceful.

twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1529807992299864071?t=c27wzElzdftYvS7fR58AYQ&s=19

I found the link.

Good. Let's have a few more of them.

Carrie - is that you?

Boris Johnson's spokesman has apologised on behalf of the No 10 press office for its handling of Partygate.

During press briefings, Downing Street spokespeople repeatedly told journalists that all Covid rules had been followed in Downing Street.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61595965

Oh, of course. All the lies and misinformation were somebody else's fault. Who'd have thought it?

Why do tories think invoking names of historically significant people somehow makes them comparable to that person?

Interesting

It feels to me like the Tories have shifted into fairly serious election mode. Yesterday dozens of MPs went to a target seat away day in Leicestershire about defending against Lab/LD's. Dowden has 80-20 strategy of seats to hold/seats they targeting
They think that Wakefield is lost, and Tiverton is worrying.

twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1529867136545464320?t=1UQISl7_QPrSz66l_2-DjQ&s=19

"New @RedfieldWilton poll: Starmer edging back to positive territory, Sunak bad but nowhere near Boris, Boris cratering further.

9 point lead for Labour (40% to 31%), making it the largest Lab lead since invasion of Ukraine."

twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1529859046676869121?s=21&t=TXlhvzW20ezVtFjklTWP6g

I think it is because they are so insecure in themselves, and realise that they are not going to be remembered as anyone of any significance or as someone who has contributed positively to society.

I find this interesting, I thought the Tories would find it easier to hold Wakefield than Tiverton, even though the majority in one is far larger than the other.
If they think Wakefield has gone, then they are in more serious trouble than I thought.

L1ttledrummergirl that link on Vine, just heartbreaking. No wonder people aren't 'moving on'.

Chancellors help package - if the average fuel bill cost will go up by £800 this year and you will get £400 off your bill you aren't actually being given anything and are in fact £400 a year worse off ? Or did I miss something?

She's my Mp.

She's an absolute waste of a vote.

I emailed her once quoting 3 pieces of education legislation. What is done to get the la to meet that. That they weren't and asked for her help especially with her legal background.

The response I got (from one of her minions not even her) was ......

A copy of the legal document I'd quoted from to read to help me 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Luckily some years ago they removed the grants to help people insulate their homes and make other energy saving improvements.

Also now that we have left the EU can we do away with the ridiculous regulations on the efficiency of household appliances so we can have ones that use more electricity.

The issue with Sunak's very expensive help for the poorest (and not so poor) is the poorest wont necessarily save it for next winter... they have immediate needs that have to be met, so still wont be able to pay their bills and the wealthier will pocket that £400 and have a nice meal instead.

This was also a flaw in Labour's proposal.

A better way would have scrapped the £400 give away & given the energy companies the money to move the less well off onto lower tariffs and or increased UC... probably the best way.

Also now that we have left the EU can we do away with the ridiculous regulations on the efficiency of household appliances so we can have ones that use more electricity

Once again we clash! out with your remoaner nonsense! these far greedier appliances will give out much more heat as they burn out the pre payment meters their users are forced to have.
Helping the poor wrenches to keep warm as they prep their De Dietrich ovens for those 30p meals to store in their Miele freezers.

A better way would have scrapped the £400 give away & given the energy companies the money to move the less well off onto lower tariffs and or increased UC... probably the best way

or lowered vat on fuel and domestic energy. Given the rises in prices they could both be cut without impacting the treasury’s current bottom line, the treasury is doing very well out of the current situation.

Yes - as the bills increase, the revenue in VAT increases. So I wonder how much extra VAT the Government has got from the increase in fuel bills?

or lowered vat on fuel and domestic energy

Weren't we promised these as a benefit of Brexit? We have left the EU so what is stopping the Government from implementing this reform?

Ah yes, I hadn't considered that using an inefficient hoover would serve as a heater as well and save people spending the day on Boris' buses. How foolish of me.

They won't take the vat away now! It'll be ' we are doing this instead'

Ah, but the Tories voted against reducing VAT on fuel and domestic energy earlier this year, because they are a party without policies on the key issues of the day, and since they would not known for u-turns I can't see them changing their mind on that.

Jeremy Corbyn.

I think this article sums up all of our bafflement regarding how the Met handled what BJ did.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/26/met-boris-johnson-police-partygate-fines