Boris Johnson, FPN's, and Sue Gray report due. Thread 5

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Previous thread!

Please stop referring to the Prime Minister as Big Dog. A dog is usually a faithful companion, and does not lie.

But the sole focus of government for the last 6 months has been to Save Big Dog. It is more important than anything else.

I agree. He will forever be remembered as being the PM who broke the law and who partied whilst people died. He won't be remembered for vaccine rollouts or Ukraine. That is what he would want. Ain't happening.

I haven't watched all the Panorama programme but caught up with the bits that matter. I cannot cope with LauraK calling BJ the most talented PM of our time or any of that sort of crap. She's always had a thing for him, she stands for why he is in power, she finds him funny, a character, an enigma like those who voted him in.

I just do not understand why. Why is it so important to save big dog when he is such a liability? What does he have that makes him more important than integrity, the good of the country, being trustworthy, even just being a nice bloke?

His appeal to certain parts of the electorate?

Some people see dogs as faithful companions, who are loveable whatever whoopsies they do around the house and the mess they make weeing all over the place as a result of having drunk too much.

When Johnson goes, his yes men will follow. They won't want to give up the power they have, or the money.

Watch goal posts moving today.

Bingo cards needed today?

Starting with Eustice
he has apologised

Bingo card.

Tory MP Stuart Anderson also said: "People have moved on from this."

Have we? Why is this thread here then?

Add "draw a line under..." & "the public want me/him to get on with the job"... to the Bingo card.

And "only one FPN"

That is absolutely it. Yet they still want to save Big Dog despite the fact that it's evident from recent election results that that appeal has crumbled. I think it's a combination of Tory MPs being thick, lacking any sort of morality, and being aware that they have no credible replacement.

More for the Bingo card:

Keir had a beer
It was his home
Doctors and nurses were eating at work
Vaccines
Brexit

I'm finding it vaguely amusing that Sue Gray hasn't handed over the report yet - she's messing with the carefully planned timings.
They are so desperate to get it out and done so they can announce the (sudden) cost of living help.
I told DH last night if I were SG I'd hang on to the report until Thursday and let it fester over recess.

Bingo card...
'We need to get on with the job'
'Mistakes were made' (This one sickens me because it distances him from the mistakes. It should be 'I made mistakes')

Ukraine.

wait for the Standards and Privileges committee

We recognise the anger people will feel

That one sickens me too.

It's funny how today's Mail and Express haven't made this headline news today, when the Mail went on and on and on about Starmer's beer.

Maybe some of those juniors fined will be able to challenge the FPNs?

The Mail had 12 days of Starmers curry as headline news!

World-beating response to Ukraine

I told DH last night if I were SG I'd hang on to the report until Thursday and let it fester over recess

Ooh that would be a good idea. Johnson might be hoping the Jubilee will buoy the pleb's everyone's spirits and make them forget about the contents of the report by the time Parliament returns.

Sky News is reporting that hard copies of the report have been delivered to No10

I believe that a horrible truth about Johnson us that he is all they've got. He has a bouncing, Labrador appeal for many and there's nobody in that Party who could come close to him in 'hail fellow, well met' popularity with the electorate. That's it. Without the Dog, the Tories wouldn't have a prayer of staying in power. It's about him, not the Party or the politics, and therefore they all owe him. Without him they will all be without a job. Turkeys, Christmas. We're stuck with him for the foreseeable future.

Totally agree. He is all they've got.
But the longer it goes on with him in power (and I actually want him to carry on making blunder after blunder and showing up his party faithful as twats) the worst it will be.
He will never ever recover from that picture of him boozing, and there could be more to come.
It will hang over him like a dark cloud because the ordinary people will not forget. As much as they do this 'we need to move on' that phrase now annoys the hell out of a lot of ordinary people which means they will dig in and not move on. I think they conflate the phrase about moving on with ... 'what? You want me to forget when I lost my mum/dad/sister and what we went through? Not a chance!'