Boris Johnson, FPN's, and Sue Gray report due. Thread 5

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www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4545092-boris-and-his-fines-part-4

Previous thread!

Can anything make him toast? He seems to be indestructible.

Johnson must be really thick if he thinks that, after he has spent months telling us to shut up and wait for the Sue Gray report, she can now just announce that she doesn't think she'll bother after all.

So...according to the Times, Johnson tried to pressure a principled civil servant to drop her investigation, then lied about the meeting,then said she requested it, then smeared her, and lied yet again.

Do I have that right?

No mentioning at all on the DM front page

He won’t be toast until he starts losing elections. He’ll be out on his ear the moment that happens (and possibly heading to prison depending on how much of a paper trail he leaves). But they’ll hang onto him until then.

Seriously, he could pull his pants down and fart in the queens face during the state opening of Parliament and Fabricant and Truss would go on breakfast news defending him.

Ahhh so Grant Shapps pulled the short straw. They've been arguing all last night as to who does the breakfast news round, poor old Grant is the one.

Wouldn't it be amazing if Shapps actually turned round in the interviews and said yes, you're right, Johnson lied to everyone. Let's get rid of him!

I wish! But he's a yes man.

Peter Bone on Newsnight last night said... “PM was walking past, saw people gathered there and thought ‘I’d better pop in and say a few words’”

Pathetic defence, let's see if that's what Shapps says. I presume that's the government line. Laughable.

The PM should've been saying 'What the actual fuck are you all doing, just leave'.

BBC this morning still going for the Keir held a beer line.

Can't possibly be true. The Prime Minister is not responsible for civil servants and very rarely has anything to do with them. Civil servants just do as they please.

Remind me how the local elections went?

I forget what happen in North Shropshire, presumably the party that had always held that seat continues to do so?

Here comes Shapps with his weak defence. He is 'disappointed'. And thinks the PM will be 'disappointed' too.
What, in the name of all that is holy, is the PM disappointed about? That his legs worked independently and took him to this illegal gathering?

Funnily enough... Shapps defence mirrors exactly what the usual suspects who are pro BJ and come on here, are saying on another thread.
The defence is... 'he wasn't fined' so that means he didn't do anything wrong.

So after months of saying we must wait for Sue Gray "He asked her, is there much point in doing it now that it’s all out there?” a Whitehall source said. “He was inferring that she didn’t need to publish the report.” Another added: “They were exploring this idea of not having any report. It was being talked about [in Downing Street].
(The Times)

You couldn't make it up.

Difficult to be fined if you are not investigated.

Remind me how the local elections went?

Unfortunately as we know, general elections don't always go the same way as local elections.

The reality of the situation - Brexit gone bad (not that it was ever going to do otherwise), the blatant reality that the PM is far far worse than anyone expected, entirely self serving and morally bankrupt, the headlong descent into incompetence and corruption of the police, the NHS and other public services on the verge of breakdown and only operational due to the commitment and dedication of staff…is so awful that the Conservative party is reduced to a state of near-official cognitive dissonance where it is able to put its fingers in its ears and ignore the fact that BJ and his crew of grotesques have already lost the party votes in elections and will undoubtably lose many more. The upcoming bye elections will be interesting.

The "usual suspects" seem to have abandoned this thread the past few days. I wonder why?

🤞that there may be more pictures to come.

Sadik kahn was very good on GMB not so long ago.

He said as crime commissioner he's going to ask the met for an immediate response and explanation as to why they didn't think investigating the PM for attending the same events others were fined for attending was necessary. (Paraphrased)

They are on another thread where there's a smattering of more like minded people. Not many mind you...

The excuses given by those we know and love (!) are...
It was a work event
He popped in to make a toast
And the best one ever...
Everyone thought it was a work do, they must've done, because pictures were taken and if it was going against the rules, it would've been secret and no photos available.

That's a classic one!

And that's why he said in HoC that NO there was no party on 13th Nov. It was a work event.

The Schapps defense 'in his head it wasn't a party"

So the presence of alcohol is normal, something Sue Gray already alluded to. It explains a lot and not for the better.

Afghanistan is being discussed today, coordinating people' s lives from the beach.

Funny how he usual suspects on here and on SM disregard the laws of the time.

So if I rob a bank but in my head it is not robbing a bank, I won't have committed a crime? Great news! We can all basically do whatever we like as long as in our heads we think it is legal.

Especially if you were only there for 10 minutes

@DuncinToffee bother, you beat me to the punchline!