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Anyone watching Amber heard take the stand?

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Meltinthemiddle · 04/05/2022 20:06

Really not sure what to think tbh.

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mamakoukla · 04/05/2022 22:54

It may be correct but I’m going to have to play devil’s advocate on the number of scripted/rehearsed = not plausible.

If an individual has been receiving therapy for this, would they probably have gone over the detail as a way of processing and accepting? Equally, if an individual were to emotionally babble with disjointed thoughts, how would that be received? Maybe the scripted sense is due to the times repeating the experiences?

I’m so sorry to see all of this. Neither are untarnished. I think it’s an important case and certainly has made me question so many of my thoughts

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Meltinthemiddle · 04/05/2022 22:54

LetitiaLeghorn · 04/05/2022 22:36

I agree. I'm looking forward to her testimony and the cross to get a feeling of what is going on.

But when she first took the stand and was doing pauses and half sobs whilst turning to the jury, it just felt so fake. I felt embarrassed for her. But I might be wrong so it'll be interesting to see how this develops.

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Definitely. I was cringing. But she seemed to have toned down after the break.

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Wagsandclaws · 04/05/2022 23:05

@OystercatchersPaddling thank you, it's a long time ago now but I haven't forgotten any of it. It's all still there.

@ClaireEclair that was what I was trying to say. He reputation precedes him.

I don't think either of them come across very well but that doesn't mean shes ugly 🙄 he's bringing her back to relive it all, he knows her public image isn't great and he's suing her for 50 million knowing she won't have that.

She's got a very young child ( 18 months old I think ) he should just leave her alone now. He won't though will he ? that's what all of this is about ultimately.

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ClaireEclair · 04/05/2022 23:06

Look up clementine_Ford on Instagram . She has explored the whole case and deep dives all of it. Johnny Depp is not a good man. Amber Heard might not be a good person either but I’m pretty sure that she’s not lying. Johnny Depp is a Polanski sympathiser and someone who thinks it’s okay to use offensive slurs. And yet, people love him! Same with Brad Pitt! He treated Jennifer Aniston like crap, blamed her for his pot habit, blamed Angelina Jolie for his alcohol problem and abused his children. And yet, he’s still a god. Jen has the “poor Jen” narrative and Angelina is treated like a pariah.

ClaireEclair · 04/05/2022 23:08

Sorry, I’ve had a drink and I’m on a rant against men tonight.

Pinkyxx · 04/05/2022 23:15

TheSillyMastiff · 04/05/2022 22:13

Indeed, this is what I thought. As someone who suffered horrific DA which resulted in a kidnapping and GBH charge followed by a criminal restraining order and a custodial for the perpetrator, I'm really struggling to believe Amber. I know this sounds so bad.

But if someone said to me "when was the first time he hit you" I couldn't recall, I'd been hit so many times my timeline is confused. The only attacks I remember in detail were towards the end because of how horrific my injuries were, it's imprinted in my mind.

But every argument, every slap, every time he spat in my face, every punch, every time he banged my head in to the wall, I couldn't tell you in detail because all I really remember is the pain, and my memory after so many years I'd fuzzy around it all. They all sorta just blend in to one horrific memory if that makes sense. 😳

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Completely agree, for me its a haze, a muddle, snap shots of images, the pain, the desperation, the fear, the shame & at times the certainty that this time he'd kill me. For the images I have in my memory, I couldn't tell you what happened, what led to it, what kicked him off, what happened before or indeed after. All I have are the haunting images. I genuinely couldn't say when the abuse first happened, outline a timeline of events or tell you how many times it happened. I couldn't tell my solicitor either - and that was only a year after we split.

Piglet80 · 04/05/2022 23:16

Normally this would bring people out the woodwork.. so where are all the women saying he did that to me too?

Allthepettythings · 04/05/2022 23:20

I’m also curious how if it was true, wouldn’t all he’s exes come out? Also what about the air stewardess and girl at the campfire she talks about?
Also the very obvious emphasis on him drinking tea?!

Happymum12345 · 04/05/2022 23:23

Just because she sounds scripted, doesn’t mean she’s not speaking the truth.

ClaireEclair · 04/05/2022 23:23

Piglet80 · 04/05/2022 23:16

Normally this would bring people out the woodwork.. so where are all the women saying he did that to me too?

What, and feel the wrath of the Johnny Depp fans? Look what they didn’t to Ellen Barkin and Jennifer Grey. Look at what he called Vanessa Paradis, his ex. Winona Ryder and Kate Moss do not have social media presence. Winona is very private. She has already asked that previous comments are not used in this court case. She and Moss have both been in the press as victims of Depp’s arguments when he smashed up hotel rooms. These are things we only hear about in the press. What goes on behind closed doors?

Sortilege · 04/05/2022 23:26

Blimey. What happened to “we believe you”. Even if you have scepticism about domestic violence case, why devote a whole thread to it?

steff13 · 04/05/2022 23:28

Alcibiade · 04/05/2022 20:14

Hard to tell until we get to the cross-examination

Yeah, she'll have been prepped for the direct to within an inch of her life.

dewl · 04/05/2022 23:32

I agree with this.

ClaireEclair · 04/05/2022 22:54

I absolutely believe her. I’ve read up a lot about this. Johnny had a history of violence dispute what the press and fans say. Jennifer Grey and Ellen Barkin have both said so. Winona Ryder has requested from a prosecutor to have her previous comments removed so her previous comment about Johnny being kind does not appear in court (in another interview years ago she stated that her boyfriend when she was 18 liked to smash things. That was Johnny. He smashed up a hotel room with Kate Moss and these are the things we know about in the press). He is close friends with Manson who is an abuser and Josh Homme who has been in court accuse of domestic abuse and whose own kids have a restraining order against him). This is another case of rich men being able to do whatever they want. Amber is not what we expect an abused woman to look like and she’s suffering for this. She might not be a nice person. She might be argumentative. She might have hit Johnny. She’s also a DV victim.

30not13 · 04/05/2022 23:39

MarJau26 · 04/05/2022 21:39

I never believed her from the start. The fact that none of his exs can say the same as her is very telling. She is so devious and calculating , I don't think she expected him to take it this far.

As far as I am aware my own exes exes never suffered any abuse like I did from him.

I think that is a completely invalid argument.

50ShadesOfCatholic · 04/05/2022 23:39

CrossingItAll · 04/05/2022 20:28

I was just thinking that!

She looks so ugly now

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Well it only took a handful of posts for this to descend into a misogynistic takedown on her appearance. 10/10

MagneticRubberDucks · 04/05/2022 23:41

She would be more believable if she told the truth.

it’s well documented she was a big drinker and took a lot of drugs,
playing this anti drugs and “I don’t even know what brow liquor is” act is ridiculous.

She has hundreds of photos and videos of little marks and random bruises, but none that are clear photos of actual injuries, no videos or recording of him doing anything other than arguing and breaking shit.

i 100% believe JD is an addict, a terrible partner, and a shitty person who is verbally abusive and smashes stuff up when he’s drunk/high.
but I don’t believe he is physically abusive.

SlightlyJaded · 04/05/2022 23:43

MilkyMamma · 04/05/2022 20:08

I can't decide if she deserves an Oscar or if it's really actually an awful case of abuse.

No Oscar for Amber. Even as an 'act' it's poor.

I hate saying I don't believe her but I don't. And the reason I don't is that there is nothing sincere about her at all. It's all mannered, measured and for show. The fake dramatic pauses, the wild looks around the courtoom, the pained face and gasping. It's got bullshit written all over it.

I reckon JD probably was a moody arsehole - maybe he was violent, maybe it was all her - we will never know exactly what went on - but I definitely don't believe her account or her innocence.

doggiescats · 04/05/2022 23:58

As a female I find it shocking that the abuse she was subjected to is ok …lots of heads need a wobble! He is an abusive creep….just look at him !!

LizzieSiddal · 04/05/2022 23:59

I think they’re as bad as each other and have both told the truth to some degree and lied at other times.

Just sod off the pair of you and go and get some more therapy.

BoredZelda · 05/05/2022 00:02

He has been trying to charm the jury throughout. He has been acting his socks off and he's a very good actor so he can play any role brilliantly.
I'm not sure I like either of them but her story seems more plausible to me and I totally believe that he is a drug addict alcoholic who probably was awful when drunk/on drugs, but charming and loving and apologetic when sober.
I think he is an abuser and sadly I will never see him the same again.

I don’t disagree with this in the main, but I think it is also entirely plausible that she was abusive to him too, the evidence is there for that. The relationship is clearly toxic from both sides. The pair of them seem unable to just move on.

PeachesToday · 05/05/2022 00:05

I believe her but also think it because abusive on both sides.

i also think they still have a connection

PeachesToday · 05/05/2022 00:06

*became

colouringindoors · 05/05/2022 00:07

I absolutely believe her. I’ve read up a lot about this. Johnny had a history of violence dispute what the press and fans say. Jennifer Grey and Ellen Barkin have both said so. Winona Ryder has requested from a prosecutor to have her previous comments removed so her previous comment about Johnny being kind does not appear in court (in another interview years ago she stated that her boyfriend when she was 18 liked to smash things. That was Johnny. He smashed up a hotel room with Kate Moss and these are the things we know about in the press). He is close friends with Manson who is an abuser and Josh Homme who has been in court accuse of domestic abuse and whose own kids have a restraining order against him). This is another case of rich men being able to do whatever they want. Amber is not what we expect an abused woman to look like and she’s suffering for this. She might not be a nice person. She might be argumentative. She might have hit Johnny. She’s also a DV victim

This.

puffalo · 05/05/2022 00:08

I can’t believe anyone is falling for her act on this thread. I don’t doubt that JD is a saint in this relationship, it all sounds highly toxic. However…

The way she speaks about what has “happened” is so clearly fake. The pauses, looking off to the side, the amount of detail over fairly irrelevant details, her rambling and repeating herself over and over- it just screams that it’s a false narrative.

She has clearly rehearsed her “story” umpteen times and it no longer comes across as genuine. It’s entirely fabricated at this point. Lots of details added in to add gravitas to what may actually have happened.

I have never spoken to anyone who has been through any time of abuse (physical, sexual, emotional) who speaks about the situation the way she does. There’s always a rawness to it. I myself have experienced one of the aforementioned abuse and I have never spoken about it like she has.

My take on it is simply that things probably did happen that were awful, but she is trying so hard to win the case, she has added in details and twisted the facts to make it seem like JD was an abuser from the very beginning, which I don’t believe is the case.

I only watched a little bit of it tonight, but her determination to hammer home his “love bombing”, then wanting to isolate her in terms of work, destroying her self esteem in terms of her appearance, and then the slow progression of emotional and physical
abuse just seems far too “textbook”.

We also have to remember that she is an actress by profession. It was always going to be hard to read, but I think by her overdoing it so much, it’s made it very easy to see that a lot of it is simply BS.

I can’t see her holding up well at all to the cross examination, especially considering how bloody terrible her lawyers are. I can’t see JD’s lawyers objecting to their own question…

Sortilege · 05/05/2022 00:09

colouringindoors · 05/05/2022 00:07

I absolutely believe her. I’ve read up a lot about this. Johnny had a history of violence dispute what the press and fans say. Jennifer Grey and Ellen Barkin have both said so. Winona Ryder has requested from a prosecutor to have her previous comments removed so her previous comment about Johnny being kind does not appear in court (in another interview years ago she stated that her boyfriend when she was 18 liked to smash things. That was Johnny. He smashed up a hotel room with Kate Moss and these are the things we know about in the press). He is close friends with Manson who is an abuser and Josh Homme who has been in court accuse of domestic abuse and whose own kids have a restraining order against him). This is another case of rich men being able to do whatever they want. Amber is not what we expect an abused woman to look like and she’s suffering for this. She might not be a nice person. She might be argumentative. She might have hit Johnny. She’s also a DV victim

This.

Also this.

We have no problem believing unsympathetic people can be mugged or burgled, but for some reason if an unsympathetic person reports DA, it must be invented? Why is that?