Anyone watching Amber heard take the stand?

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Really not sure what to think tbh.

Can we all just agree on this:

1. AH was a sht to JD
2. JD was a sht to AH

This trial is about JD making sure the world knows that AH was also extremely abusive and a liar.

Honestly, they are both so disgusting.

I agree

If you read some of Johnny's texts to people while this was all happening, it was the psychological abuse that really upset him. On the day he lost his finger, his text to the doctor was mostly about how she belittles him, demeans him, taunts him, mocks him, uses sarcasm and intentionally wants to hurt him. His comment about his finger being injured is almost secondary to how exhasuted he is from the psychological warfare. If she had just hit him a few times, I don't think he would have been so adament that the world needed to see who she was. It was the psychological abuse he can't seem to move past.

I think they are a despicable pair. They seem to be as bad as each other.

I really wanted to believe her and to be on her side but it doesn't ring true. When she jumped back away from him in the court as if she thought he would hit her, that did it for me.

I still believe that she was abused by him but I am confident that she abused him too.

Totally toxic relationships with no winners.

Neither of them can move past the ends of their pretty noses 🙄

And so it will go on, two abusive drug addicted narcissists locked in a death grip… this won’t be the last you’ll hear of them….

You do know that we are the source of their bottomless narcissistic supply? Us, the tabloid-hungry public. The sooner we look away, the better, for everyone.

The more I think about it, the more I think how I wouldn't want my life dragged through the mud like this and therefore I probably wouldn't go through court to rehash it all. I understand that he feels his reputation has been damaged along with losing money but he could live quite comfortably off interest from the bank.

If kids were involved and court was for the kids then you fight to the end but some things just aren't worth it, especially 8 years on. I would want to move on but that's just me.

jd had lived so long in drug's habit, a team to clean up his mess, carry him around When passed out.

VP apparently According to text's said talked to him for 5 hours largely About Lilly rosé and her heart break at JD drinking.

Lily rosé has a panic attacks and needs taking away from him.
That hasn't sprung up out of thin air.
And that's not ambers fault. She's trying to fit into the already ridged Life of essentially, a bachelor.

Jenny grey ( dirty dancing) said he was jealous and paranoid About what she was up too.
VP has children with him she's not going to be honest in the press about him.

She got into this at 22.

Having said all that I'm finding it hard to believe her on the stand the most real parts seem to be About meeting him, the magic...and her life for him.
She Seems to have really loved him.

I think he Also really loved her.

Jennifer Grey was just on GMA promoting her book. She talks about her relationship with Johnny Depp for about 30 seconds within the first two minutes.

I disagree, I don’t know why VP wouldn’t mention it because of the kids plenty of people do snd if he abused her I’m sure it would have come out by now. Everyone seems to say he’s not hurt them in past relationships. Quite the opposite in fact and he’s been doing drugs and drinking all his life ( from a very young age by all accounts). It’s clear he gets violent and trashes things and that he has huge issues and is a complete dickhead but from AH’s own account that she taped she talks about ‘him trying to walk away from the argument and that’s what he always does’ while she appears not to be able to handle the fact he is trying to escape from more drama and close the fighting down.

You can’t convict someone by looking at them . That’s not how court cases work .

I think if she is telling lies then it is a huge injustice to genuine DV victims . She took pictures And videos but not of her many extensive injuries when she was raped and beaten and had her nose broken . There was security and her own nurse she could have spoken to and her own family to turn to. But she just went on tv , or took two sleeping pills and went to bed.

if she is telling lies it’s actually quite disgusting. But as it’s a civil case nothing will be done I guess .

I don’t think he is totally innocent and he might loose the case but her evidence just does not add up .

I think he knows he'll lose but he wants to take her down with him.

Quite agree, silly man for bringing this case IMO

Spot on.

@Dreamwhisper

i agree and this is nothing to do with which party is a man or a woman .

some men lie and some women lie. That’s a fact .

it’s her reaction after the alleged detailed , very detailed beatings that don’t add up . She spends a lot of time on everything that happens and if you believe her she o would be very severely injured nearly dead. Then her action ? Take two pills and go straight to sleep. That’s it . No pain from injuries , no cleaning up , not a single plaster or bandage on the many cuts ? It’s actually Quite strange

Agree with everything you say @Unsure33

Yes 100 % this. Of course he’s going to send messages to his doctor about all the ‘psychological abuse’ he’s suffering. That’s what addicts do. Constantly try to deflect from their own behaviour and justify it. They become paranoid about every single person around them unless they are directly providing them with their next hit of the drug. I do have some sympathy with Depp of course, addiction is a terrible illness but it’s the fact he clearly hasn’t recovered any self awareness whatsoever, despite having the best treatment money can buy. I assume he’s free of the drugs and drink at this moment in time, but he clearly can’t recognise the harm his life of addiction has done to those around him and this ludicrous idea of suing everyone who dares to mention the fact he’s a complete arsehole when on drugs and drink just makes him look like the worlds most pampered, ridiculous person.

The more I think about it, the more I think how I wouldn't want my life dragged through the mud like this and therefore I probably wouldn't go through court to rehash it all. I understand that he feels his reputation has been damaged along with losing money but he could live quite comfortably off interest from the bank.

He could have lived off the interest years ago but maybe he wants to carry on working. His life and reputation have already been dragged through the mud. He hasn't nothing to lose from this and everything to gain.

Like many people im not a fan and when the allegations first came out I accepted that he was probably an alcoholic and a wife beater, having watched bits of this trial I now think it was a very toxic relationship and she often goaded him and set him up for a reaction.

I now don't believe that he actually hit her as there would be evidence of it amongst her many many pictures and videos if he had. And judging by the post all over social media, people are starting to see his side of it.. So win or lose the case, I think he's achieving what he wanted.

If you have watched the trial to date, he isn't the one deflecting or justifying. Only one of the two people has taken ownership of their actions....and that would be Johnny. He doesn't deny his addiction nor trashing rooms.

You are going to get attacked by all the people who say you must believe a victim and that you can't deduce anything ever from their behaviour. Johnny is a victim and I am sure they will be along in a minute enraged that you aren't supporting an abuse victim and that you would dare criticize him. Since they say it isn't about women or man, then all the people here upset about comments about Amber are also going to be very upset about your comments about Johnny.

@happinessischocolate That is a good point and you put it across very well. I don't think he hit her either, not in the way she is describing. She would be practically left for dead if he had done all that to her. There are so many questionable parts of her story, such as her saying she had her feet all cut up from glass...but then went to bed no problem without tending to them? She would need glass extracted by a doctor and then probably stitched up. She wouldn't be able to walk for days yet she was walking fine through an airport the next day.

Also in the photos of the scene, there is no evidence of bloody footprints which there would be if that had happened.

She said JD took 8-10 MDMA tablets...he would have been dead!

She uses too much unnecessary detail which usually points to story telling. For example, in her witness statement from the London case, she describes the phone JD hit her with as a "cream and mint green plastic phone". No one would go into that much detail in my opinion, they would just say "he hit me with a phone that he pulled off the wall".

You are going to get attacked by all the people who say you must believe a victim and that you can't deduce anything ever from their behaviour. Johnny is a victim and I am sure they will be along in a minute enraged that you aren't supporting an abuse victim and that you would dare criticize him. Since they say it isn't about women or man, then all the people here upset about comments about Amber are also going to be very upset about your comments about Johnny.

I’ve never said it’s not about being a woman or a man thanks. In situations of mutual violence neither are in the right however one person is likely to be able to cause far more physical harm to another. If he doesn’t deny his addictions or trashing rooms I don’t see how he can possibly deny abusing AH. It’s quite ridiculous really. Or is he the only alcoholic in history who retains full memory of their behaviour when under the influence? Do you understand that alcoholics in withdrawal suffer delirium? The story about the blood ‘art’ is clearly true. No one would think that up and it’s sounds like someone deep in the DTs. He should have the self awareness about his own illness to understand he couldn’t possibly remember or even understand his own actions and leave her the fuck alone to get in with her life.

@DingleyDel but AH is also an addict and an alcoholic and capable of violence as well as shitting in his bed and lopping off the end of his finger, that is equally horrific. He is sick and she is sick and it sounds like they both have done terrible things to one another. They are both victims and both perpetrators from what I can see.

Honestly, this will go on and on as they BOTH see themselves as the victim.

They’re literally arguing about who was more abusive. In a court of law. How sick is that?

To be honest, whether you think AH is a liar or not the vitriol that’s been thrown at her on SM seems the icing on the cake in a time where misogyny seems very firmly the order of the day. A British court ruled against Depp to say that the claim he is a wife beater is a reasonable claim. I have seen the most ridiculous ‘false news’ about AH on FB including that she was snorting coke in the courtroom concealed in her tissues. It’s like misogynists the world over have been waiting for this moment their whole lives. Im 100% sure a man wouldn’t be subjected to the same level of vitriol if the roles were reversed. A lot of internalised misogyny too.

Exactly. Really fucked-up.

Addict and alcoholic is a stretch. I believe her nurse said a history of substance abuse (which is basically anyone who has taken drugs recreationally) and that she drank 1-3 glasses of wine per day. Really no where near the same ball park as someone who has a long term physical dependency on drugs and alcohol.

Shitting in the bed, it’s not like he even physically saw it, he was shown a photograph. The finger is ‘he said she said’. She says he sliced it off himself.

If she had left him the fuck alone instead of two years of selling recordings and stories and leaking pictures and all the juicy little morsels that kept getting picked up to keep the negative press about him going for years...we wouldn't be here.