Anyone watching Amber heard take the stand?

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Really not sure what to think tbh.

Disagreeing with you is not the same as being condescending. HTH.

And how do ANY of those examples show that JD didn’t abuse her?

I don’t actually see how saying “huh” is so bad or proves anything? Is she meant to weep and wail? This reveals nothing we don’t already know - he had a violent strop and threw her phone across the room. Was there a mic drop moment I missed?

And believe it or not, but a few extra seconds of a video doesn’t prove he didn’t attack her. Do you think it all ended at that moment?

jesus the total desperation people have to defend a wife beater is totally embarrassing.

Just one judge? Do you trust they do not need the jury too

btw do you mean for all trials that usually have juries or just sexual abuse / violence cases?

@MarshaBradyo I was referring to Julie Bindel’s argument that low conviction rates for sec crimes is linked to biased juries.

One judge (some countries have more making decision) has a hell of a lot more insight and experience into the law than 12 regular Joes put together. People are not selected for jury duty based on their intelligence or excellent logical skills (though it did used to be men only and professionals only), it’s a system that centuries old, the principle of which was to give the general public a day in the justice system. Which is great, in theory, if it works - but too often it doesn’t.

*a say in the justice system

I don't believe her because she's a woman. I believe her because a judge has listened to all of this before and found that JD was abusive.

What this supposed to prove

I don't believe her because she's a woman. I believe her because a judge has listened to all of this before and found that JD was abusive.

Same. I believe a lot of what he says too although those of us who know what addiction does to a person, there’s so few memories the next day of what happened and lots of righteousness and denials about their behaviour. so I don’t believe everything he says based on the fact he’s an addict, his addiction peaked in their marriage it seems and he just will not have the infalliable memory and kind nature he likes us to think he had.

So @BigFatLiar, who stated as fact there is a clip of AH 'practicing crying and breaking down' prior to the trial, hasn't produced the clip? And nobody else has either?

So does it exist or not? If you're going to state things as fact, saying there's evidence of them, probably best to share that evidence.

Or it looks like a lie.

@DressingGownofDoom I think it’s supposed to prove she said “Huh”. Which of course means she couldn’t possibly have ever been a victim of abuse, even though that very video shows some pretty nasty abuse.

Victims are supposed to be quiet and pliant and timid and wailing, they are NOT supposed to answer back or make snide remarks in the face of violence, especially women, because we will take their victim badge off them.

if it’s just sexual violence trials because they have low conviction rate then one issue might be the high bar for conviction - eg beyond reasonable doubt

If the evidence meets that I can’t see the public is so low intelligence not to get the facts

The argument for bias maybe - but I don’t really go with ideas that the public cannot judge the facts

It’s an interesting topic though, be good to hear someone who works in the law and their take

Of course there isn’t a clip. The sycophants would have posted it all over social media by now. It would be in the news.

There are seemingly some people working REALLY hard to spread rumours about this trial. A social media claim that she copied a speech from a movie when on the stand has been debunked today. Some weirdos are dedicating a lot of time to circulating rumours, and I’m afraid the thickos are falling for it and passing it on before fact checking.

This truly is the age of fake news.

Ah yes of course. What a cow, not allowing him to get on with smashing up the house and her phone in a drunken rage without videoing him.

The fact that she's not breaking down crying etc at the end of the video just cements to me even more that that was JDs usual behaviour. If that was the first time your husband acted like that you'd be really scared, if it were the 50th - from my experience I know I'd act like AH - here we go again. Pissed off but basically desensitised. Obviously everyone is different but it is entirely possible for her to act that way and still be a victim of DV.

@MarshaBradyo it’s a very interesting topic and I encourage you to read the Julie Bindel piece. I’m not entirely sure what my stance is on trials by jury and if they’re future proof. It’s a very draconian practice that maybe doesn’t belong in the modern world. But happy to admit that I don’t know enough about either argument to have formed a solid opinion. But certainly a interesting topic!

It's like the "she quoted The Talented Mr Ripley word for word" which went viral and was then shown to be false. Someone mocked up a side by side transcript of the script and her testimony.

And despite her testimony being on video and uncut, people still spread the lie rather than checking it.

Unreal.

I’ve just googled various versions of ‘amber heard rehearses crying’ and nothing is coming up. You think a video like that would be everywhere.

Given all the things that judge believed to be true that we know are not true, I don't trust her ability to assess evidence.

Yep. Somebody’s ability to make a meme doesn’t make them right. She said something entirely different to the Mr Ripley quote. What a bunch of total losers who did that!

This person is claiming that AH ‘stole her lines’ from the Talented Mr Ripley and here is the proof, showing her testimony and the movie side by side. twitter.com/armastrangelo/status/1522300757466353672?s=21&t=_BUTCyMT-zsCGJZsMehzMg

I mean aside from them being words in the y language, there is absolutely no similarities and this is the pathetic desperation of Team Depp to make her look like she’s playing a part. They need to get a hobby

*in the English language

jesus the total desperation people have to defend a wife beater is totally embarrassing

And the lengths you'll go to to defend this conniving woman is even more tragic. How many pages have you been prattling on for now?

twitter.com/yonatie/status/1522551993344176131?s=21&t=2vNpYZM3NBFNFpkk-YiLRg

More proof she copies movie quotes including “What happened here”.

I mean nobody EVER said that before the Shrek movie, and nobody ever had a reason to say it since unless they’re quoting Shrek.

Next she’ll be saying things like “Hello” which is obviously a word from Jerry Maguire and all this proves she a lying bitch and JD is a sweet funny geezer, just like my crush Jack Sparrow, and all he ever did was be amazing towards her.

For as long as it takes for the people to realise that she was abused, and her being abusive back doesn’t cancel out what he did.

I’ll always defend victims of abuse who have proven their case but are being disbelieved because people think their abuser is such a swell guy. I’ll always put it right when people who have no clue what addiction does to a person and how awful it makes them.

And I STILL am waiting for people to tell me that if it was Kev from drunk who works in Tesco who did what JD did, would you still defend him and believe he wasn’t abusive?

I do wish people would just admit they’re holding him to a low standard either because he’s a man or because he’s famous. It’s the self denial that I find frustrating. I would have far more respect if people just admitted they have a hard time finding a beloved movie star to be a monster.

I don t believe this audio was submitted for trial. Much of it is inadmissiable as it contains the voice of Jerry Judge who has since died and therefore can't testify to what was said / done.

Actually, he's suing her for $50,000,000. She is counter suing him for $100,000,000