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Anyone watching Amber heard take the stand?

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Meltinthemiddle · 04/05/2022 20:06

Really not sure what to think tbh.

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StEval · 06/05/2022 09:48

KosherDill · 06/05/2022 08:54

As my sister said, "I'd be doing hard drugs too if I had to be around her for any length of time."

Her long, self-serving monologues aren't doing herself any favours. What a dreary, whiny woman.

I was barely aware of who Johnny Depp was before this but hope he wins his case.

Oh god yeah, it has to be the womans fault hes a drug addict, alcoholic abusive man, even before they met?🙄
Tale as old as time.
I believe her, she said she hit him back and was not proud of it and of some of her other behaviours.

Everything she has said rings true.
From the abuse and ramping up of drug/ alcohol use shortly after they married.
Classic-"Ive got you now" behaviour.
Taking pictures is advised, to show the addict, who will deny everything in the cold light of day, its not abusive.
He has been an addict for years, way before he met her.
Surrounded by Yes men who minimised stories, paid people off and cleared up the mess.
She exposed him and so hes going after her.
Scapegoating, a massive campaign to discredit her and denial and lies.
They believe their own lies.
Denial of his issues and behaviours, someone else is always to blame.
If addicts had any self awareness or ability to reflect they wouldnt be addicts.
Anyone who has any experience of addiction will be nodding.
Its textbook.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/05/2022 10:54

KosherDill · 06/05/2022 08:54

As my sister said, "I'd be doing hard drugs too if I had to be around her for any length of time."

Her long, self-serving monologues aren't doing herself any favours. What a dreary, whiny woman.

I was barely aware of who Johnny Depp was before this but hope he wins his case.

Yes because Johnny Depp famously never had addictions or abused alcohol / substances before meeting her 🙄

youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/05/2022 10:56

@KosherDill

This is his own rundown of his history of drink / drug use:

Depp said his fame has "forced [him] to live the life of a fugitive" with zero anonymity. He said since the age of 12, he's taken all manner of substances, including marijuana, cocaine, ecstasy, LSD, prescription painkillers, opiates and magic mushrooms.

But sure, it must be her who drove him to take drugs... always a woman's fault eh?

Interested in this thread?

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Trixiefirecracker · 06/05/2022 11:10

It seems odd that none of his past relationships have seen any abuse though. Surely someone would pipe up?

Alohaaa · 06/05/2022 11:15

The truth lies somewhere in between. They have both been abusive to each other, a prime example of two people who bring out the absolute worst in each other. Add drugs, alcohol and a whole load of baggage into the mix and this is what happens.

What’s deeply unsettling is the way Amber is being vilified by the public. Even this thread didn’t take long to descend into misogynistic slurs on her appearance. There may be some exaggeration but ultimately she has been abused, as has he. No winners here.

AdriftAbroad1 · 06/05/2022 11:28

Again, no about her apearance. posters said she was beautiful but had significantly altered her appearance before testifying, to look innocent, less attractive and wore ess makeup.

Posters also pointed out artcles where it was noticed she wore the same clothes as JD the very next day.

It is a very valid point.

You may call it what you want. Posters have also said JD is a washed up idiot.

DressingGownofDoom · 06/05/2022 11:39

Bestoptionhelp · 06/05/2022 08:49

I think Amber Heard is lying through her teeth. Where are the photos of the blood and paint smeared all over the walls? Surely she would’ve taken pics if this had happened, but I’ve not seen photos relating to this, except the odd one of a broken bottle maybe.

Yes, I believe JD probably has smashed things around (which is obviously wrong) .
, but I don’t believe he was ever physical with AH.
Notice how she tries to portray herself as holier than thou, dresses like she could pass for someone off little house on the prairie, and talks of her ‘bond and love’ she has for Johnny’s kids. All to give the impression she’s a caring respectful individual.

She appeared disgusted when talking about certain things, such as when JD had smeared paint everywhere (or when he’d been sick), yet she’s able to apparently shit in their bed …. 🙄

Aside from the crocodile tears, one huge red flag for me that she’s lying is the constant talking in the PRESENT tense about what supposedly happened. Anyone taking from experiential memory usually will talk in the past tense. She is definitely reading a rehearsed script I believe.

HTH

Anyone watching Amber heard take the stand?
LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 11:49

Taking pictures is advised, to show the addict,* who will deny everything in the cold light of day, its not abusive.

Why take pictures and make recordings, though? Why not just leave?

DressingGownofDoom · 06/05/2022 11:53

LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 11:49

Taking pictures is advised, to show the addict,* who will deny everything in the cold light of day, its not abusive.

Why take pictures and make recordings, though? Why not just leave?

This explains why. www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/women-leave/

Trixiefirecracker · 06/05/2022 11:53

Exactly this, the truth lies somewhere in between and sounds like they were both addicts as AH’s nurse testified to the fact she had a cocaine and alcohol addiction.

StEval · 06/05/2022 11:56

LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 11:49

Taking pictures is advised, to show the addict,* who will deny everything in the cold light of day, its not abusive.

Why take pictures and make recordings, though? Why not just leave?

She did.
Filed for divorce and a restraining order in 2016
15 months after they married.

LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 12:12

PlasticineMeg · 06/05/2022 07:31

Oh well, if that’s what he said it must be true. He’s a man after all, so he must be believed. Even men with a history of violence and various addictions, but still the accident story is SO believable. I don’t know about you but I can’t moved for head butting people smaller and more vulnerable than me. I’ve headbutted my children several times, whoopsy daisy!

How ridiculoudly OTT. I said quite clearly that that was what he claimed, not that I believed him. A pp had said that he had admitted to headbutting her and I was contradicting that because he did not admit to it, he said their heads had accidentally bumped.
Oh and I have done something similar with my partner. He was bending over me and I looked up suddenly and caught him on the nose. So it can happen. Not saying that's the truth of it here but it is possible.

PlasticineMeg · 06/05/2022 12:16

Ok, I will say it again as you keep beating on. Where is the evidence that AH was abused other than her own testimony and what she told Dr Hughes after she was sued?

  • JD has admitted to headbutting her
  • There is a video of him being abusive and smashing glasses and furniture
  • When someone says a person with a vast well documented history of violence, was violent to them, I tend to think they’re probably telling the truth
  • A judge has rules that he is a wife beater and there is sufficient evidence to Mike it highly likely
also, her testimony IS evidence - you certainly don’t mind believing JD on just his word.
Staynow · 06/05/2022 12:18

This pair are both deranged IMO. I think they were obsessed with each other from the beginning in a totally unhealthy way. He never has to take responsibility for anything he does because he has the money and people to sort out anything and everything, he's incredibly entitled and smug - when she said he had cocaine in a jar on the table, a jar of cocaine and he's smirking to his lawyer like 'a jar of cocaine?? does she know who I am?? Why would I keep cocaine in a jar when it could be in my wooden skull and cross bones box with my initials on?' He just came across as a prick, he often seems insincere and as if he sees it all as a joke, and he minimises his addiction. It seems he was extremely jealous, controlling and some of the messages are just full of abuse and appalling language directed at her. Everything is done to try to discredit her.

She on the other hand is very keen to look like she was the innocent, loved up victim who was just begging him to change and always believed and had hope in him. I found her extremely plausible and coherent as only the best liars are - narcs are brilliant at this, they learn all about you and then use it to their advantage. She will tell almost all the truth to make it entirely believable, all the little details that she can to make it sound like the truth and then it makes it very difficult to spot the lies in amongst it. I recognised a lot from what she said he did too - him saying he'd rather lose a limb than lose her for example, I'd say that was pretty typical narc on his part as was idolising her then devaluing her and then the cycle begins again when he realises he might lose her and begs forgiveness. Also his refusal to even look at her, that's to let her know how worthless she is IMO, he can't even stand to look at her.

I felt that the story she told about the wino tattoo was plausible, but was it true? I thought she was probably lying when she said she was laughing about it innocently though as I think things were probably already bad at this point with arguing - I suspect she was probably laughing at him in a 'yeah you are a fucking wino, couldn't be more fitting' way. Or if she is telling the truth (impossible to know!) then he took it that way. As a result I believe he was probably violent - but did he smash the place up or did he slap her as she says?

In conclusion I'd say they're both typical narcs and so are both extremely manipulative and good liars. I would not like to be the one trying to find the truth in this quagmire of abuse. Did he ever hit her or did he only ever break stuff? Fuck knows.

LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 12:19

StEval · 06/05/2022 11:56

She did.
Filed for divorce and a restraining order in 2016
15 months after they married.

But why stay long enough to keep taking pictures and recording him? If his behaviour is bad enough that you feel you need to keep taking pictures and making recordings fir evidence, why not go straightaway? Why keep subjecting yourself to it?

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PlasticineMeg · 06/05/2022 12:22

KosherDill · 06/05/2022 08:54

As my sister said, "I'd be doing hard drugs too if I had to be around her for any length of time."

Her long, self-serving monologues aren't doing herself any favours. What a dreary, whiny woman.

I was barely aware of who Johnny Depp was before this but hope he wins his case.

He had a drug problem while AH was still in school.

and she’s being forced to testify in her defence - what do you expect her to talk about, the weather??

LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 12:23

JD has admitted to headbutting her.

No, he hasn't. He said their heads bumped accidentally. Not saying he's being truthful, but he denies deliberately headbutting her.

PierresPotato · 06/05/2022 12:27

Staynow I agree with a lot of what you say there.
He's awful too imo but is charming his way out of it all.

LaBellina · 06/05/2022 12:29

DingleyDel · 06/05/2022 08:28

I'm not saying JD isn't a drunk and an addict, he certainly is.

This is my main issue tbh. No one is denying this, including Depp, although I think he is playing down his addictions of course in classic style. I would say it’s virtually unknown for someone to be an addict as extreme as he was (I’m talking physically dependent on drugs and a lot of hard liquor) and NOT be abusive. It’s just doesn’t happen. Addicts are always abusive to those closest. If they perceive that the loved one isn’t 100% supportive in them getting their next hit abuse will follow, whether thats verbal or physical. In withdrawal or under the influence they will do bizarre and often violent things that are completely out of character. This is why people will hardly ever be sectioned when drunk (makes it very hard when there’s MH issues at play too).

As for AHs abuse of him. No one is claiming she’s a saint. No one is claiming she’s behaved impeccably. However living with an addict you love and care for drives you to the absolute limit of your strengths and depths of despair. You want to hurt them, to make them feel, to make them show they still have any part of the person that you love left. I actually fantasised about hitting mine with my car to get him into hospital with a chance he might have to sober up rather than seeing him destroy himself and my family in such an awful way. I’ve been through some very traumatic events in my life but nothing can prepare you for living with an addict. AH was a young woman with MH problems who was completely unprepared for what she was getting involved with. Sorry if it’s wrong but I’m afraid I feel sympathy with her because of my life experiences, which I under most people probably haven’t had.

This post makes a lot of sense.
I’m sorry that you went trough that @DingleyDel

AdriftAbroad1 · 06/05/2022 12:32

@PlasticineMeg I think you need to calm down a bit. Many, many posters on here have experienced DV (myself included), did not in any way care who JD was and were totally ready to believe AH.

Many are now fairly convinced she is a liar and also, more importantly that she has done women a MASSIVE disservice.

We are not all thickos, thanks, we have our experiences and opinions.

More important issues are at stake.

Unsure33 · 06/05/2022 12:35

This case is not about him being drunk or an addict and it is obvious she is telling lies about some things - for example the vicious attack the day before she appears on the james corden show where the make up artist said she had no injuries to her face ( where she said they were ) She also categorically claimed he had broken her nose . But again the video of her in the studio shows NO sign of a broken nose or black eyes .

The problem is if she lies or exaggerates where so you draw the line about what is true ? And she married him after the alleged abuse, and after the "rape" she just took two sleeping pills and went to bed .

She could have called security / the police at the time and she has her own income and good family support which a lot of victims of DV DONOT have .

This is not defending JD - but her testimony yesterday was not ringing true plus she lied about the article not being about him .

IF they prove her to be telling lies I think it is an insult to genuine DV victims .

youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/05/2022 12:37

Trixiefirecracker · 06/05/2022 11:10

It seems odd that none of his past relationships have seen any abuse though. Surely someone would pipe up?

He trashed a hotel room while Kate Moss was in the bed. Causing thousands of pounds worth of damage. Seems a pretty violent dynamic to me.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/05/2022 12:37

Trixiefirecracker · 06/05/2022 11:10

It seems odd that none of his past relationships have seen any abuse though. Surely someone would pipe up?

Also would you have said 'seems odd that nobody has publicly said Harvey Weinstein ever assaulted them' when the first victim came forward? Or if only one had?

PierresPotato · 06/05/2022 12:37

Trixiefirecracker · 06/05/2022 11:10

It seems odd that none of his past relationships have seen any abuse though. Surely someone would pipe up?

There seems at least (according to autobiographies and reports in the dreaded media) to be a pattern of falling hard, (proposing straight away!) then a habit of getting violent with the furniture and being possessively jealous.
Maybe this time he came up against a less compliant and understanding partner? Different generations too perhaps less likely to think jealousy is an acceptable trait or "romantic." Who knows really.
Is an addict even completely aware of what they've done?

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