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Anyone watching Amber heard take the stand?

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Meltinthemiddle · 04/05/2022 20:06

Really not sure what to think tbh.

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PlasticineMeg · 05/05/2022 23:31

Why is everyone saying “OMG so rehearsed” She will have had a deposition and know exactly what questions are coming. It’s as rehearsed as JD’s testimony is, in that they are both prepared in what they are saying. What were you expecting? An improv?

Size6Asics · 05/05/2022 23:32

but if I were in his shoes, I'd want the public to know just how badly I'd been abused and manipulated. My career might be in the toilet, but at least everyone would know that Heard was a spouse beater too.

An eye for an eye eh? And people get pissed off with the likes of Putin. The human race really is its own worst enemy sometimes. Our psychology is so basic.

PlasticineMeg · 05/05/2022 23:33

CountTheStars · 05/05/2022 20:32

I can’t get my head around why she taped him, recorded their conversations, took photos - even from the early days when she was supposedly head over heels for him. What’s all that about? You don’t do that unless you’ve got some ulterior motive, right from the start. It’s just bizarre

It’s really so hard to understand? REALLY? If you were being abused would you not take the opportunity to film it if you ever needed proof?

So much BS victim blaming on these threads.

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PlasticineMeg · 05/05/2022 23:38

Blackbird2020 · 05/05/2022 21:17

I don’t think JD’s goal is to win. He and his lawyers will know it’s slim at best.

He doesn’t want to resurrect his career. He knows that’s over. He knew what would come up in this trial would make him untouchable, even more so. He knows his behaviour whilst abusing various substances was awful.

But he just wants to everyone to know that a) he didn’t ever hit her, and b) she’s is extremely abusive and a liar.

That’s why he wanted it on TV. He needed others to see. Not a closed court. It won’t matter if he loses. He will have done what he set out to do. Show everyone outside of the courtroom the actual evidence he has.

He doesn’t get to choose if it’s an open court or not.

and my arse will his career be over because of this. Ha! Doesn’t work like that with men! There are actual rapists and murderers working in Hollywood right now, the slope-skulled Depp sycophants whose teeny tiny brains can’t comprehend that he is NOT, in fact, Jack Sparrow are simply fawning over him and shouting they love him from the side lines.

However he is very well know for being difficult to work with. Turning up drunk and assaulting his colleagues. Which is why he has been turned down for work before. Nothing to do with his treatment of AH and everything to do with his violent and toxic tendencies. But hey, it wouldn’t be planet Earth if a woman wasn’t being blamed for a man’s fuck-ups, right.

AdriftAbroad1 · 05/05/2022 23:38

PlasticineMeg · 05/05/2022 23:33

It’s really so hard to understand? REALLY? If you were being abused would you not take the opportunity to film it if you ever needed proof?

So much BS victim blaming on these threads.

Yes. I also wondered this earlier. This started very early doors, a year only into the bf/gf relationship.

PlasticineMeg · 05/05/2022 23:45

This started very early doors, a year only into the bf/gf relationship

And yet they still got married - it happens in abusive relationships, we can’t even begin to realise how toxic this one was and how they both clearly swung from one extreme to the other.

although I don’t think they were married long before splitting up?

AdriftAbroad1 · 05/05/2022 23:48

I think a year?

BorderlineHappy · 05/05/2022 23:49

@PlasticineMeg there's actually nothing wrong withy teeny tiny brain.
I just so happen to have a different opinion.
Imagine that.
Shocking isn't it.

And here's a thought maybe just maybe what he's saying is true.
It's not like there's tapes where she's admitting it or anything.

PlasticineMeg · 05/05/2022 23:53

BorderlineHappy · 05/05/2022 23:49

@PlasticineMeg there's actually nothing wrong withy teeny tiny brain.
I just so happen to have a different opinion.
Imagine that.
Shocking isn't it.

And here's a thought maybe just maybe what he's saying is true.
It's not like there's tapes where she's admitting it or anything.

But are you also one of the many people who, when SHE has evidence and HE has admitted to violence, fall over yourself to make excuses for him? That seems to be a very common stance in this case.

No one is saying AH wasn’t abusive. But some people seemingly would sooner cut off their arm than admit JD was also abusive. It’s weird, you wouldn’t say it if it was Kev from Tesco who had done the things JD had done, and indicative of
A. A culture whereby we put celebrities in some kind of superhuman category
B. Patriarchy in action

BorderlineHappy · 06/05/2022 00:01

@PlasticineMeg but there's not the evidence pointing to him as to her.
And the reason there ample evidence against Amber is what she's taped.
She's taped it to make him look bad but it's backfired on her.
I wasn't there and I'm only going by what's put out there.

And the majority of it being out there is down to Amber.

You have to ask yourself why?
She didn't expect him to fight back.

And even if he loses Amber done that to Depp because she could.
She even told him he wouldn't be believed.
And she was right ( somewhat)

PlasticineMeg · 06/05/2022 00:06

No evidence?

There was a video showing him being violent and abusive (looking forward to what your excuse is for his behaviour), he’s admitted to head butting her, he has a history of violence and addictions (which, when you reach his level, it is very unlikely he’s an aggressive drunk except with his wife who he’s always lovely to) and a judge has already ruled, based on huge amounts of evidence, that he is a wife beater.

What evidence you actually expecting from AH’s team that will make you satisfied JD is a wife beater? I mean personally I think he’s the world’s most obvious wife beater but there you go.

LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 00:08

Size6Asics · 05/05/2022 23:32

but if I were in his shoes, I'd want the public to know just how badly I'd been abused and manipulated. My career might be in the toilet, but at least everyone would know that Heard was a spouse beater too.

An eye for an eye eh? And people get pissed off with the likes of Putin. The human race really is its own worst enemy sometimes. Our psychology is so basic.

I wouldn't say an eye for an eye. I'd say the whole truth.

Say you and your husband had had a turbulent marriage. You'd both done regrettable things. You decided to divorce and in court he made out that you were a violent bully and abuser and he was a poor victim but you knew that was totally not the truth. He wins his case and gets primary custody of your children. Your friends and the community despise you and you've lost something precious because of his lies. Would you just shrug your shoulders and walk away and not fight back. I jolly well wouldn't. I'd want people to know the truth.

PlasticineMeg · 06/05/2022 00:12

Since when did JD and AH have children together?

And you can’t compare the everyday person in the UK at a divorce hearing to a pair of self important narcissists in Hollywood at a very different civil case.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/05/2022 00:22

@LetitiaLeghorn

Eh? They don't even have kids together...

Allthepettythings · 06/05/2022 00:34

When did he admit to head butting her?

youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/05/2022 00:36

Allthepettythings · 06/05/2022 00:34

When did he admit to head butting her?

He has done so on record.

Anyone watching Amber heard take the stand?
LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 00:42

youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/05/2022 00:22

@LetitiaLeghorn

Eh? They don't even have kids together...

It was an analogy.

LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 00:45

He said the headbutt was an accident. They bumped accidentally. Don't know if it's true but that's what he claims.

DingleyDel · 06/05/2022 06:49

I can’t believe the number of people rushing to defend Depp. I suppose most people haven’t had to deal with an addict/alcoholics. Lucky them. Everything she says rings true to me. Her describing his black empty eyes cemented this. I’ve been physically assaulted by a normally kind and mild mannered relative who was suffering from severe alcoholism. I had to call the police, not something I thought would ever happen, and of course I tried to physically defend myself. The cycle of abuse she describes when he’s been drinking/high or on withdrawal I can 100% believe. He won’t even remember half the things he did, and he will be incredibly self righteous once sober. He genuinely feels HE’s been wronged here. He’s probably a narcissist too. Addicts are abusive to those closest by the very nature of the illness and even when sober may never face up to the impact of their behaviour. I suppose that’s self preservation.

PlasticineMeg · 06/05/2022 07:31

LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 00:45

He said the headbutt was an accident. They bumped accidentally. Don't know if it's true but that's what he claims.

Oh well, if that’s what he said it must be true. He’s a man after all, so he must be believed. Even men with a history of violence and various addictions, but still the accident story is SO believable. I don’t know about you but I can’t moved for head butting people smaller and more vulnerable than me. I’ve headbutted my children several times, whoopsy daisy!

PlasticineMeg · 06/05/2022 07:33

LetitiaLeghorn · 06/05/2022 00:42

It was an analogy.

That’s not ana Malory. You asked someone what they’d feel if their ex lied in court and then threw in “and your children removed from you”. That’s nothing like Heard and Depp who (thank Christ) never had kids

PlasticineMeg · 06/05/2022 07:41

DingleyDel · 06/05/2022 06:49

I can’t believe the number of people rushing to defend Depp. I suppose most people haven’t had to deal with an addict/alcoholics. Lucky them. Everything she says rings true to me. Her describing his black empty eyes cemented this. I’ve been physically assaulted by a normally kind and mild mannered relative who was suffering from severe alcoholism. I had to call the police, not something I thought would ever happen, and of course I tried to physically defend myself. The cycle of abuse she describes when he’s been drinking/high or on withdrawal I can 100% believe. He won’t even remember half the things he did, and he will be incredibly self righteous once sober. He genuinely feels HE’s been wronged here. He’s probably a narcissist too. Addicts are abusive to those closest by the very nature of the illness and even when sober may never face up to the impact of their behaviour. I suppose that’s self preservation.

This just rings SO true. People have absolutely no idea what living with an addict is like. Even if he didn’t ever assault her (he clearly did) the behaviour people who live with addicts have to put up with is on another level. judging from this trial people actually think that you can be an addict but be always kind to ONE person, but nearly always it’s the person close to them who addicts are at the very least consistently verbally abusive to. It’s an illness, and it sad and awful, but I would say in all cases of that level of alcoholism, you are a fucking horrendous human to live with and ALL those living with you WILL suffer, on a regular basis. It’s not a movie, it’s not A Star is Born where alcoholism is sexy and endearing, this is real life, and alcoholics behave selfishly and cruelly

excoet JD of course who was an angel throughout Hmm

Ethelfromnumber73 · 06/05/2022 07:45

I believe her

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 06/05/2022 07:46

DingleyDel · 06/05/2022 06:49

I can’t believe the number of people rushing to defend Depp. I suppose most people haven’t had to deal with an addict/alcoholics. Lucky them. Everything she says rings true to me. Her describing his black empty eyes cemented this. I’ve been physically assaulted by a normally kind and mild mannered relative who was suffering from severe alcoholism. I had to call the police, not something I thought would ever happen, and of course I tried to physically defend myself. The cycle of abuse she describes when he’s been drinking/high or on withdrawal I can 100% believe. He won’t even remember half the things he did, and he will be incredibly self righteous once sober. He genuinely feels HE’s been wronged here. He’s probably a narcissist too. Addicts are abusive to those closest by the very nature of the illness and even when sober may never face up to the impact of their behaviour. I suppose that’s self preservation.

He's no angel. I cant believe the people rushing to defend her, when there's proof of her abusing him. Yet its still made out to be his fault. Makes you realise why so many male victims of DV don't come forward.

Trixiefirecracker · 06/05/2022 07:49

I mean the abuse is clearly on both sides but her ridiculous ‘act’ the courtroom is not doing her any favours. She’s a ham actor for sure.

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