Anyone watching Amber heard take the stand?

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Really not sure what to think tbh.

"and all the posts after mine conveniently ignore the fact she LIED about being RAPED and LIED about donating her alimony to DV charities". How do you know she lied about being raped? She has donated some of the money to charity and apparently intends to donate the rest. I read that she had to hold some back to pay for the court case costs and has promised to donate when she can but who knows.

Yep …this in a nutshell! Perhaps someone can advise Amber as to how she should present herself in the witness box ! Absolutely shocking comments about someone who is clearly traumatised ….I personally think JD looks creepy and his demeanour is trivialising the seriousness of Ambers accusation…he is belittling her .

Based on the testimony of the female officer, that is downplaying what happened. There was evidence there was a public verbal argument. There was also evidence that Amber grabbed Taysa's arm and tried to redirect / move her using physical force. Taysa's necklace was also broken during this physical altercation. The altercation / argument was sufficient to attract the attention of the officers. At the time, Taysa told the female officer Amber hit her arm during the altercation / argument. It is true that neither of them wanted Amber to be arrested - however an abuse victim / spouse not wanting their abuser / spouse to be arrested is not uncommon at all. I have no way of knowing how much their sexual orientation came into play when the male officer decided to arrest her but I don't think it was unreasonable given the evidence at the time for her to have been arrested. I listened to the court proceedings of the dismissal of charges and Taysa von Ree wanted them dropped (wouldn't testify). They were dropped with the option to bring the charges back should more evidence surface. While Taysa felt it was blown out of proportion when it made headlines 7 years later - the incident still happened.

Eh she doesn't look like a victim because she isn't one.

Johnny for his faults has always always been nice to his fans.
You only have to see the way he interacts with his lawyers to see they genuinely like him.

Can you imagine a woman coming on here and saying her dh hit her and recorded the events.
No way would anyone say it was her fault,maybe she started it.

Switch it around that's exactly what you are implying when it comes to men of abuse.

And she's no intention of ever paying that divorce settlement,she said that to make her look good.

She's fooling all her followers on here just like she fooled JD and how she got away with it for so long.

I definitely think you're onto something there. Americans often seem so earnest and open, it can come across as overacting or hammy to us but it's their culture.

I watched that part of the Louise Woodward trial and cringed, because I have absolutely been in serious situations where I've done that exact same smirk/laugh and it's caused be stress and tension but the Americans didn't understand it.

Some of these may be of interest to you. The Bahaviour Panel on youtube analysing body language of Depp and Heard.

the behaviour panel johnny depp - YouTube

@ClaireEclair it came up in the trial.

amp.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/15/amber-heard-antagoniser-rows-with-johnny-depp-court-told

Sorry.

Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard Trial - Body Language Reveals What's REALLY Going On - YouTube

Somewhat an irrelevant slight derail but what you're seeing on Tiktok is similar videos to the ones you're interacting with due to their algorithm. If you search for the positive videos about AH and interact with them, and scroll past every video of Johnny, then your algorithm will eventually flip and all you'll see is positive about AH. Goes for everything - if you're seeing too many cat videos, it's because you've interacted with one too many, its reversible by seeking our dog videos if thats what you want to see.

Ahhh, can't seem to post links. Is this a new thing?

Anyway there are a handful of youtube videos by the Bahaviour Panel discussing this case. Might interest some.

Well said.

All of this.

I enjoyed seeing her photo of her breakfast table. Nicely composed.

JDs drug box, a few lines of coke (left un sniffed!) tobaco and an ashtray a glass of liquor she couldnt possibly identify, just in front of a contrastibg glass of berocca she liked to have at breakfast. To the right JDs medication bag for his legal meds. It was like that game where you look at a picture, remove one object and then have to look at the picture again.

She was gathering evidence long before they even got married and sending it to all and sundry. IMO.

Odd, very malicious and exactly what my STBXH did when he came round and took photos of my glass recycling , ie .wine and mineral water bottles (which I had not done for a while, for various legit reasons)

Once STBXH came round, looked in my fridge and at the back was something slightly mouldy (a courgette, I think) and he snapped a picture of that.

Such an odd thing to do (we are not in a place where any photos would be accepted anyway, in court) we were not living together and he was happy to let me do 99.9% of DD complete childcare. In his mind he was building his own private vendetta/case against me.

I am NOT saying she was doing the same but I THINK she is. Practically everything she does and says I 100% recognise. She is totally letting down any women out there trying to be believed IMO.

This has zero to do with how I feel about JD (which is not much)

If you want to drink Berocca at breakfast, dont really drink and only take magic mushrooms very occasionally, as she claims, do not go out with JD.

Oh, but wait... you do drink and take drugs and are sticking with this life of the rich, priviledged and famous in Hollywood. Why is that? Just walk away so early on in your fledgling bf/gf relationship.

Jennifer Grey did not report a history of violence with JD. There were lines taken from her recent book about jealousy, carefully PR'd to garner attention for her book from the trial.

Here is Jennifer talking to GMA about her relationship with Johnny. She says there was no violence.

for gods sake “she might have hit Johnny” she DID, she has admitted it! Why is everyone conveniently ignoring this??

Johnny Depp “‘might be argumentative” he “might not be a nice person” there is no evidence he hit Amber; he is also a DV victim.

I’m not some deranged Depp fan, just very frustrated at people who are determined to minimise his experience because he is a rich and powerful man. Have you any idea how humiliating it is for a man to admit he is a victim? Have you heard her mocking him on tape, saying “go ahead say you’re a victim and see how many people believe you?”

If JD was testifying how she was right now, every single person would be on here calling him an abusive piece of shit.

The point of the trial is to establish whether JD has ever abused AH.

If AH has also abused JD that doesn't change the outcome of the trial.

In order for him to win, he needs to convince a jury he has never abused AH.

When it comes to this trial specifically, it doesn't matter if she has also been abusive to him.

They could both have been abusive. He is the one who has pushed for this trial claiming he never abused her. Do you really believe, based on the UK trial and the testimonies in this one so far, that he has never abused her?

Absolutely this.

None of us will ever know what went on in that relationship - we weren't there. But I find it a very sad case (and shouldn't be giving it my attention!)
Amber Heard may well be a victim of DV. If she is, she has seriously damaged her credibility by working with ACLU, not paying monies she said she had, and the recordings belittling him and admitting hitting him. All those factors are enough to make you doubt her. If she is a victim, it is a tragedy she won't be believed, but I can see why.
I lived with an abusive partner 20 years ago- at one point I thought he was going to kill me and I was begging for my life. If I had hit him or belittled him, I would not be here today to tell the tale.

Did you all see the Twitter thread connecting her testimony to movie quotes, verbatim? She is not genuine.

JD is a horrible abusive drunk, but AH is a horrible abusive .. something.

I also think that the public won't believe a verdict other than Johnny was defamed.

I suspect that the lawyers tried to get them to settle but they are both so angry and damaged that they want to drag each other down and keep them down.

Mr Depp's lawyer in particular is going to be a massive winner. He's massively benefiting being against weak lawyers and could make a fortune with work like talk shows if he's that way inclined.

Because why should anyone just be able to say anything and be believed?

Well done for conceding JD is an abuser. That is the crux of the case. Not what Amber looks like or wears or whether she does or doesn’t smile or cry. It is JD who is staking everything on this.

The trial isn't about whether AH is abusive too though.

People don't seem to be getting that JD is suing her for 100 million dollars on the premise she has never been a victim of his abuse.

The case isn't to establish if she is abusive or who is the most abusive.

It's to establish his claim that her saying he was abusive towards her is absolutely false.

It clearly isn't. He therefore should not win the case.

His claim is simple that Heard for defamed him in this article? I don’t see how he can win. “She hit me, too.” is not proof that she has defamed him and caused loss of income. He’s welcome to write an article of his own about the abuse he suffered at her hands, but there is no doubt that what she has written here is true. There is nothing detailed she’s even implied. There is ample evidence that his behavior was abusive, that he was powerful, that fans went after her to silence her. He even admits to enough of the physical abuse and emotionally abusive behavior to make what she wrote fair.

I think he’s crazy for pursuing this publicly. It won’t bring back his career and it paints a much worse picture of him than her article. To me, the suit smacks of control and forcing her to continue contact/connection.

He is/was a rich, powerful older man with an obvious and admitted drug addiction. It’s not a stretch to say people like this are routinely abusive to those close to them at least emotionally.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ive-seen-how-institutions-protect-men-accused-of-abuse-heres-what-we-can-do/2018/12/18/71fd876a-02ed-11e9-b5df-5d3874f1ac36_story.html

Those people defending Depp at all costs - remember he is an actor and remember the press is anti women and, as a previous poster has pointed out, remember you are subject to algorithms.

None of us will ever know what truly went on between these two. But to write such vile stuff about somebody that the UK legal system found to be a victim of domestic abuse seems to me to be very low.

Ive only watched a few mins of her, I had to turn her off as I felt I was watching extremely bad movie, she is so fake, I don’t believe her at all.

Im not a fan of JD but feel he is more of a victim here. I’m not excusing his behaviour, but when everything is put in context, especially if he is the victim, it’s understandable.

Out of the 2 of them, she is the one with the history of violent outbursts and domestic violence. If he was in anyway violent and nasty then at some point in his 30+ acting career that information would be somewhere in the public domain. But it isn’t, people who have worked with him and been in relationships with him have all supported him. If there was the slightest bit of dirt on him someone would have come forward by now.

I fully believe she is a nasty toxic bully and abuser who thought she could bring him down and boost her image by playing victim and jumping on the back of the me too campaign, but it has backfired on her because he is not going away quietly and is refusing to let her destroy his life and reputation.

she has done far more damage to real victims of DV and to women.