Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Boris has been fined - Part 3

1003 replies

Roussette · 24/04/2022 11:57

Here we are.

And here is Part 2

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4529283-Boris-has-been-fined-Part-2?reply=116839783

OP posts:
Thread gallery
5
Luculentus · 05/05/2022 18:28

In our area it was noticeable that no address was given for the Conservative candidates, whereas the Lib Dems and Labour candidates did have addresses that were recognisably in our area. Something tells me our conservatives aren't local conservatives.

ClaudineClare · 06/05/2022 06:53

Tories have lost their flagship London boroughs Wandsworth and Westminster.

Calls from grassrootsTories for Johnson to go.

ClaudineClare · 06/05/2022 06:55

They lost Barnet as well.

Luculentus · 06/05/2022 06:56

Almost a complete wipeout for the Conservatives in Richmond. Given that it had a Tory MP till Zac Goldsmith lost it at the last election, that's pretty extraordinary.

Roussette · 06/05/2022 07:11

I find it extraordinary that Conservatives have lost Westminster to Labour, for the first time since its inception.

Yes, and Richmond too... they have lost every single seat.

OP posts:
ClaudineClare · 06/05/2022 07:14

Mail etc playing things down, but losing those particular London boroughs is very bad for Johnson.

Cornettoninja · 06/05/2022 07:16

dramatic night eh? So easily avoidable too…

itsgettingweird · 06/05/2022 07:17

Locally we has changed in % vote. Tory still holding but that's historical for decades here.

We also have a low turnout (usually 35% ish) and we had 39% this time.

For the first time though Tory didn't get over 50% of the votes. Usually they get 55% ish and they got 45%. Labour had an increase of 10%.

We also had a much bigger number of spoilt ballots. That to me tell me that those who would vote Tory couldn't - they just refuse to vote for others instead which is a problem with the opposition.

PortiaFimbriata · 06/05/2022 07:18

The only way of avoiding this was by not having Johnson as Prime Minister. It's all completely inevitable given his personality.

ClaudineClare · 06/05/2022 07:29

itsgettingweird that is interesting to know, thanks. Although it is good the Tories are getting a pasting, it is clear that Labour still has a long way to go in persuading disgruntled Tories to switch votes.

Notonthestairs · 06/05/2022 07:47

Johnson will have a go at shrugging it off. London is 100% populated by leftie lawyers afterall. Can Non doms vote?!

No news from my area. Anyone know what percentage of the overall results are in yet?

Notonthestairs · 06/05/2022 08:02

I noted yesterday that a Conservative big wig pointed out that the man they have appointed to run their next election campaign (same man who ran Johnson's mayoral campaign) is currently working in Australia - the implication being that it will be different when he is in charge.

Notonthestairs · 06/05/2022 08:11

"At 2240 PM told Tory MPs WhatsApp: “I would like PERSONALLY to thank all the colleagues who have put on such an amazing shift in the last few weeks and days. I know how much you have been doing and it is massively appreciated. Onwards!”

In 2hrs since there’s been just 1 reply 😬"
From Harry Cole on Twitter.
I'm sure they were just busy...

ClaudineClare · 06/05/2022 08:50

73/ 200 councils declared so far, Notonthestairs.

DuncinToffee · 06/05/2022 08:53

ClaudineClare · 06/05/2022 08:50

73/ 200 councils declared so far, Notonthestairs.

In England?

I don't think they have started counting yet in Scotland, N Ireland and Wales

Notonthestairs · 06/05/2022 08:55

Thanks Claudine.

I wish commentators would stop focusing on London. The picture is a little broader.

twitter.com/marinapurkiss/status/1522483036490801152?s=21&t=wJwLYEf8gsKNaVafsDk4jg

DuncinToffee · 06/05/2022 08:58

Current count

England 75/146
Scotland 0/32
Wales 0/22
N Ireland 0/90

Peregrina · 06/05/2022 08:58

It is clear that Labour still has a long way to go in persuading disgruntled Tories to switch votes.

John Curtice the election pundit has just said words to the effect of a bad night for the Tories, not good enough for Labour. Personally I didn't think it was too bad for Labour. Many of the seats were last contested before the Labour melt down in 2019. In places like Sunderland it looks to be more of a return to Business as Usual. In London and parts of the south east it's more mixed. The Tories have lost control of West Oxfordshire, for example - true blue since the year dot.I haven't seen who the seats have gone to though. Witney has had Labour Councillors in the past.

DuncinToffee · 06/05/2022 09:03

In our last local elections most wards in our town were won by the Local Residents party. I have no idea how that would translate into the GE.
(We are in a Tory safe seat council that voted Remain.)

newnamethanks · 06/05/2022 09:03

Any Other Party doing well and denting the Boris stranglehold. See the Grenfell council is still in place, no surprise but utterly shameful.

Peregrina · 06/05/2022 09:05

I wish commentators would stop focusing on London.

Well the Tories would say that the commentators are all a bunch of lefties, so they would talk about London, where Labour is doing well. Westminster - Labour? Not what you expect.

DuncinToffee · 06/05/2022 09:11

Summary from Ben Walker, New Statesman www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2022/05/the-2022-local-elections-liveblog

Good morning.

If you decided to spare your mind and soul the pain of staying up all night to consume election results, here's a brief summary of what's happened, and what, in my view, is most interesting.

(1) Labour have gained the local authorities of Wandsworth, Barnet, Westminster (!), Southampton and Cumberland. While the significance of the London results feels predominantly reserved to London, the Labour majority in Cumberland is a big surprise. The locale covers three notably Conservative constituencies: Copeland, Carlisle, and Workington (both the area and the man). One way to read this would be Labour have, so far, outperformed YouGov's exclusive council projection for Sky News.

(2) The Conservatives, as expected, have suffered a net loss in council seats. Despite this, they have picked up a notable number from Labour in places such as Nuneaton, Sandwell (West Bromwich), Thurrock, Basildon and Amber Valley.

(3) This trend in Tory gains, however, is partly offset by Labour gains from the Tories in Dudley (yes, Dudley), Derby, Southampton and Chorley.

(4) Compared to 2018, Labour's vote is middling in some parts, and advancing by a percentage point or two in others - curious, really, when its vote is not hugely down in all Leave voting boroughs. The local results in councils that were up last year paint a more resistant Labour vote, but not everywhere.

(5) The Greens, once the reserve of safe-as-houses Labour city seats, appear to have broadened their base. Shock wins in South Tyneside, Colchester and even Plymouth suggests a broader appeal than perhaps first thought.

(6) The Lib Dems appear to be doing better than expected. In London, they are outperforming my own forecast. Outside London, gains in Barnsley and Salford suggest, similar to the Greens, there exists an opportunity for them to broaden their base.

Nuanced results all round. There's plenty more to come, though. Scotland and Wales, complete with a couple of key English authorities outside the capital to consume. Watch out for Worthing (Lab hopes to gain) and Somerset (LDem hopes to gain) in particular.

Happy Friday.

Notonthestairs · 06/05/2022 09:12

Southampton and Cumberland are Labour gains. Barely get a mention!

Rottingdean win - usually Tory, they used to have 3 branches of the Conservatives!

DuncinToffee · 06/05/2022 09:19

Rottingdean, we got a speeding ticket there once Smile

ClaudineClare · 06/05/2022 09:20

I am in Wales. Hoping Labour will gain some of the NOC councils as well as win Monmouthshire from Tories.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.