Ukraine Invasion: Part 22

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Here we are again

Ukraine 4 Freedom AT UAwarinfo
As a result of the missile strike, an explosion occurred at the traction substation of the Krasne railway station - the head of the Lviv OVA.

Structural units of the State Emergency Service are working at the scene, the fire is still being extinguished.

About the residential bombing. According to the Johnny Dymond series on BBC Sounds the FSB almost certainly carried out bombings including residential ones iirc within cities. They did this and 'identified' the 'bombets' as Chechen. Gave legitimacy to the invasion of Chechnya.

Russia has been claiming that Ukraine carried out 'aggression' in the Russian claimed areas of the East. Those could have been real operations or could have been false flags to push the " Ukraine is attacking us" line.

If there are more, it could b a pattern.

Still, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Well called @notimagain

Tim White AT TWMCltd
Also a few people are tweeting a picture of this rail crash from Bryansk.
It did happen - here's the original news report, but it was two days ago. It doesn't look suspicious, with a landslip, after recent heavy rains.

News report

Indeed. Worth noting, filing and then moving on to see if there is a pattern, rather than assuming the worst.

Its interesting to see the Ukrainian side with this Russian railway incident too.

I think its worth being able to see and identify examples of disinformation and what looks right / wrong and to think about timing of why its done.

@Wrongkindofovercoat · 25/04/2022 06:56

www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-greece-year-caution-weapon-invasion-military/

That is a fascinating description of Greece’s difficult position. So the Greek government’s initial very positive response to Ukraine was evidently felt to be very disadvantageous and dangerous for Greece by a substantial portion of their society.

It makes sense that they have close religious ties to Russia, they feel Russia might protect them against Turkey, and they feel they may not be protected by NATO should Greece ever be invaded.

It seems clear that from their point of view being “the last outpost in the West” does not always lead to their loyalty being being backed up by the West - and that it could leave the them vulnerable to Turkey.

It was interesting to see the allusion to the gas pipeline, which would have benefitted them, not working out because of America not backing it.. I wonder what was entailed in that gas line?

Does look like a landslide in that photo, the concrete slabs that hold the rails all look intact at the bottom, though I suppose someone could have given nature a helping hand.

Reuters are now reporting five railway stations attacked by rockets in central and west Ukraine.

It was interesting to see the allusion to the gas pipeline, which would have benefitted them, not working out because of America not backing it.. I wonder what was entailed in that gas line?

South Stream the gas pipeline was supposed to go under the Black Sea and out to Serbia, Hungary and so on. Greece would have benefitted from that.

It was cancelled and instead Turkish Stream was launched.

Greece not happy about it, obviously.

It will be very interesting to se how the Armenian Genocide from yesterday emarks play into this epic saga of Balkan rivalry and mistrust.

Putin’s statement congratulating Macron is absolutely insane in its normality. It’s as if he’s entirely detached from the reality of what’s going on!

Sorry. How the remarks about the Armenian genocide from yesterday play into this..

I'm trying to do four things at the same time and failing r most.

on April 21 at 21:02 at the Kletnya-Zhukovka section in the Bryansk region, a single shunting locomotive derailed with all wheelsets.
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@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/04/2022 09:23.

re the South Stream Gas project that would have benefited Greece.
Thank you for your answer.

Armenia is an interesting one because in 1990 it was Russia that was set to march across it and assure it was faithful to the father land.

It's not just that, it was also the fact that it was then rerouted through Turkey that added insult to injury.

Yes, but now we're picking another scab.

The Turkish Genocide of 1915 and 1916. It's been a thorny issue between Turkey and the US, and Biden called it a genocide again this weekend. If you want Turkey on your side you leave this particular dog sleeping.

Can anyone link to the Putin/Macron congratulations message please?

This is the crux of the telegram he sent.

Is that a Telegram as in social media or a Telegram as in old skool KGB era dot dot dash dash?!

Tweet - Firefighter rescues cat in Kharkiv

Something nice for a grim Monday morning. Good people exist.

I suspect its a DipTel (diplomatic telegram).

Tim White AT TWMCltd
Russia is running short of computer equipment because of sanctions. We know this because the Kremlin has denied it with this statement:

"There is no shortage of computer equipment in Russia's IT market. We are also taking measures to ensure the uninterrupted supply of servers ."

There's something that is bugging me about Russia's media war in all this. They are constantly trying to claim some sort of humanitarian high ground, desperate for the appearance of happy Ukranians under their rule, desperate to show a united, anti-West and pro-Special Operation Russia. Never targetting civilians, nothing but nice, saviours against the terrible disgusting morally bankrupt Ukranians.

The disconnect between the reaching for a moral high ground - when you listen to them, it's like they are claiming an Utopia - and the reality is so far apart that it seems strange. If they put as much effort into improving coordination and maintenance as they do into the media and population-control, they'd win hands down.

So it's almost like the Russian govt is more concerned about appearances than about effectiveness. Which seems an extremely odd way to run a war and it seems to me that there's something else going on. Every side has propaganda in a war, most sides massage figures (except apparently in this war, Ukraine) but the level and the extremity of the presentation of moral superiority makes me wonder if there's a motivating factor that has been missed.

@Igotjelly · 25/04/2022 10:33

Tweet - Firefighter rescues cat in Kharkiv

Something nice for a grim Monday morning. Good people exist.

That was a happy thing to see, thank you.

I think it’s a consequence of having an out of touch dictator. Nobody is going to tell him how badly organised everything is on the ground.

@Igotjelly thank you. You are right, the tone is so odd given the context!