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Do you think the queen is really poorly?

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Meltinthemiddle · 14/04/2022 21:36

As in dying 😔. I know she is very old and fragile at 95 but I do wonder if she is trying to keep going until the Royal jubilee.

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ChicCroissant · 14/04/2022 22:35

Charles is obviously doing more of the duties now but she won't abdicate. She's always said she wouldn't and if she was, she'd have retired when Philip did.

She does look much thinner and more frail since her husband's death, and she is in her mid-nineties.

JosephineDeBeauharnais · 14/04/2022 22:35

@Supersimkin2

Bingo. Monarchs do plan the timing and announcement of their death to make a point - the Queen’s father George VI took a fatal morphine overdose to an alarm set at the hour the morning Times could run the news, deliberately too late for the evening papers.
Wasn’t that George V not George VI?
womanchild · 14/04/2022 22:36

I think she's going to hand over the reins quite soon after her Jubilee as royal engagements are taking their toll. But what a woman, I hugely admire her

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Redpriestandmozart · 14/04/2022 22:36

I'm half her age and knackered :(

RoseAndRose · 14/04/2022 22:36

@chinabunny

People wonder why accusations of racism are leveled against the detractors of H&M. This thread is a great example of why; Andrew, who has done far, far more to pain the queen, has not been blamed once and yet multiple posters have rushed to lay fault at H&M's feet.
Is it blaming?

Or was it one joke about timing of visit? Which started when wrong assumption made that timing was because of something to do with HMQ, not the timing of Invictus

DontStopMeNow7 · 14/04/2022 22:37

I do worry about her ability to get around that giant castle she lives in.

SarahBellam · 14/04/2022 22:37

@SpringIsSprung1

Harry and Meghan have caused so much stress to the Royal family. I find if hard to believe that they have not caused her worry and great sadness. Not good at the Queens age for sure.
Do you not think that having a paedo for a son would tax her a lot more that her grandson wanting to protect his family?
chinabunny · 14/04/2022 22:37

@SpringIsSprung1

It's not racism! It would be true no matter what colour she was. Stop playing that card, it's pathetic.
No what's pathetic is trying to blame the queen's decline on H&M without even mentioning the actual criminal in the family.
Fulmine · 14/04/2022 22:38

@chinabunny

People wonder why accusations of racism are leveled against the detractors of H&M. This thread is a great example of why; Andrew, who has done far, far more to pain the queen, has not been blamed once and yet multiple posters have rushed to lay fault at H&M's feet.
I don't think they've rushed to do anything of the sort. The topic of H&M has simply arisen because they have been visiting today.
MattDamon · 14/04/2022 22:39

She was riding her horse up until she was 94. She's had a great run. I hope she's got her feet up, telly on, thumbing through her private photo albums.

chinabunny · 14/04/2022 22:40

"I don't think they've rushed to do anything of the sort. The topic of H&M has simply arisen because they have been visiting today"

You only have to look at the first few pages of this thread to see that's not true.

SarahBellam · 14/04/2022 22:40

@lljkk

My speculation is that the villification of Prince Andrew, and loss of his titles, has caused QE2 far more stress than what he as accused of doing, or what he actually did.

So all the PA haters have caused QE2 huge amounts of stress, yes.
She's pretty fiercely loyal to family.

DD tells me that the scenes in The Crown where QE2 tries to work out who her favourite child is - are pretty funny.

Perhaps PA should have considered how his actions would be perceived and interpreted before he decided to bring his family into disrepute.
EdithWeston · 14/04/2022 22:41

Realistically, she's 95. Her life expectancy can only be considered short

Judging by her DMum, there could be another 6 years to go.

It would be pretty amazing if she overtook Louis XIV's record for as longest ever reign - he had the distinct advantage of ascending throne still aged 4! Reign was 72 years and 110 days, so still a while to go...

Pallisers · 14/04/2022 22:41

@SpringIsSprung1

I'm going to say what I'm sure a lot of Royalists are probably thinking... Those two have caused so much anguish for the Queen that they haven't exactly done much to ease her into her final years. Although she will forgive them. Her achievements have been phenomenal.
holy god.

This woman has put up with Charle's talk about wanting to be his lover's tampon being in the public arena and Diana putting it all out there about her affairs neither of them with seemingly ANY regard for the feelings of their sons. plus Sarah Ferguson and the toe sucking crap and then Andrew - what can we say about Andrew?

But it is Harry and Megan who have caused so much anguish.

quite clear where your values and those of your fellow royalists lie.

Spaghag · 14/04/2022 22:41

I didn't think anything was amiss until I heard that Harry & Meghan have visited today in secret. Meghan does nothing in secret usually.

HM is 95. Frailty is to be expected. Mobility issues too. Today's visit however has more the vibe of a grandson saying goodbye than a scheduled family get together.

I hope I'm wrong.

SmellyOldOwls · 14/04/2022 22:42

@QueefofSheena

Weird how no one has mentioned how much Prince Andrew’s behaviour would have affected her. Let’s ignore that and entirely blame H&M shall we? Hmm
Tbf I think comments about them have come up because the visited the queen today
Gwenhwyfar · 14/04/2022 22:42

"No what's pathetic is trying to blame the queen's decline on H&M without even mentioning the actual criminal in the family."

But she is the one who has publicly supported Andrew.

ronjobbins · 14/04/2022 22:42

@Supersimkin2

Bingo. Monarchs do plan the timing and announcement of their death to make a point - the Queen’s father George VI took a fatal morphine overdose to an alarm set at the hour the morning Times could run the news, deliberately too late for the evening papers.
Rubbish he didn’t ‘take’ it he was given an injection allegedly, and hadn’t set a bloody alarm fgs.
Gwenhwyfar · 14/04/2022 22:43

"This woman has put up with Charle's talk about wanting to be his lover's tampon being in the public arena and Diana putting it all out there about her affairs neither of them with seemingly ANY regard for the feelings of their sons. plus Sarah Ferguson and the toe sucking crap and then Andrew - what can we say about Andrew?

But it is Harry and Megan who have caused so much anguish."

You made me laugh. People have short memories.

Fulmine · 14/04/2022 22:44

@Supersimkin2

Bingo. Monarchs do plan the timing and announcement of their death to make a point - the Queen’s father George VI took a fatal morphine overdose to an alarm set at the hour the morning Times could run the news, deliberately too late for the evening papers.
No, that was George V, and it was his doctor who made the decision, not him, and it happened at 11.55 pm (partly to fulfil the doctor's prediction that he would die that day). The doctor wrote in his diary:

"At about 11 o'clock it was evident that the last stage might endure for many hours, unknown to the patient but little comporting with the dignity and serenity which he so richly merited and which demanded a brief final scene. Hours of waiting just for the mechanical end when all that is really life has departed only exhausts the onlookers and keeps them so strained that they cannot avail themselves of the solace of thought, communion or prayer. I therefore decided to determine the end and injected (myself) morphia gr.3/4 and shortly afterwards cocaine gr. 1 into the distended jugular vein."

"Who was the last British king to be murdered?" is rather a good quiz question.

PegsandBags · 14/04/2022 22:44

I'm probably older than a lot of you. My late mother became ill in her early 80s, she was never sick in her life prior to that. Everyone, medics, carers, family, the few friends she had still living all said she was a goner after my Dad died. She lived on for a further 12 years in good fettle, but her decline was rapid in her last year of life. Bless her cotton socks.

I think they just get weary and curl up and give up sadly.

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Meltinthemiddle · 14/04/2022 22:44

@Redpriestandmozart

I'm half her age and knackered :(
Yeah that's true!
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WinnieTheW0rm · 14/04/2022 22:44

Latest iteration of the Prince Andrew thread, for those who want to discuss him, is here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/4519070-Andrew-The-Abbey-Fergie-and-The-Fraudster

(There isnt general Sussex thread at the moment. Just the one about Harry's juducial review)

Pallisers · 14/04/2022 22:45

Meghan does nothing in secret usually.

Mind you if she did you wouldn't know it would you because it would be like ... done in secret.

Nametoname · 14/04/2022 22:45

@ChiswickFlo

I think it's odd that Charles and camilla have dropped out of attending tomorrow's service too

Somethings afoot

According to the Daily Fail, Charles and Camilla are spending Easter at Birkhall in Balmoral which would explain why they won’t be at the Easter Sunday Service.

Like others, I think the Queen is simply frail and elderly, nothing more sinister than that.

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