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Do you think the queen is really poorly?

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Meltinthemiddle · 14/04/2022 21:36

As in dying 😔. I know she is very old and fragile at 95 but I do wonder if she is trying to keep going until the Royal jubilee.

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RobertaFirmino · 15/04/2022 00:11

I hope she soldiers on for a few more years yet. We've had far too much serious and upsetting news over the past two years, Covid, The D of E, Johnson's antics and Ukraine, peppered with several high profile killings and the cost of living crisis. If HM departed tomorrow, the nation's morale would be at rock bottom. A bit of Jubilee gaiety, whilst no solution to this country's problems, is probably exactly what the UK needs.

Icecreamandapplepie · 15/04/2022 00:14

Why's no-one allowed to mention meghan and Harry without someone getting angry they didn't mention prince Andrew as well/ instead?

Totally separate households surely?

Glad my uncles aren't dragged up anytime my name is mentioned! I don't understand...

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Gonnagetgoing · 15/04/2022 00:20

@Meltinthemiddle

I've never been a royalist but I have grown very fond of the queen and all she stands for. She puts all the other royals to shame. Very sad seeing her look so frail.
@Meltinthemiddle - trust me the queen doesn’t think of you in the same way!

When I was a child I liked the royal family but now at 50 years old I can see they’re just parasites. Even the queen mother was an evil old bat (she apparently hated her public) but it suited her to look and act like everyone’s favourite grandma.

Sooner there’s a republic or a much scaled down version the better.

And I’ve gone from recently disliking Meghan to thinking she’s been treated really badly by the Firm.

SleepingStandingUp · 15/04/2022 00:21

I suspect its pride. The church walk is a decent walk. Likely too much for an elderly lady who's been very unwell lately. If it was your Nana you'd push her there in a wheelchair, but I suspect the Queen doesn't want that to the the images of her splashed across the world. Fair enough. She's 95 and the Queen, she has the right to maintain her dignity however she wants.
Suspect she'd resting to build up the Jubilee with everyone praying she makes it, then it'll be full in retirement in nature if not in namem

lameasahorse · 15/04/2022 00:21

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AlternativePerspective · 15/04/2022 00:23

Ffs.

SleepingStandingUp · 15/04/2022 00:24

Ah I'm sorry, that's come out wrong from me and it wasn't what I intended. Not at all. But being in a wheelchair because your old is a sign that you're frail. It's a sign that you aren't coping the way you used to. And that's normal, but I can understand why the Queen doesn't want to reinforce the idea of her being frail and near the end, even if she is. If she'd been a long term wheelchair user, no one would comment or report but the minute she rolls up to church in a wheelchair you know the headlines will go crazy.

So I'm deeply sorry what I typed didn't convey what I meant.

SleepingStandingUp · 15/04/2022 00:24

@AlternativePerspective

Ffs.
Well swear at me all you like but at least read my reply to seahorse
Icecreamandapplepie · 15/04/2022 00:25

@lameasahorse but loads and I mean loads of people eating prince Andrew. Constantly.

I thought M&H were mentioned because they are over here visiting said Queen unexpectedly. What has prince Andrew got to do with their relationship with the queen?

I wouldn't want to get constantly brought up in contact with an (alleged) pedo I was (not even closely) related to.

I just don't get the connection at all.

Pawtriarchal · 15/04/2022 00:25

I find it possible to simultaneously like the queen, be concerned that she may be very unwell without being vulturous about it, think Prince Andrew is despicable and feel embarrassed for Harry and Meghan’s behaviour.

lameasahorse · 15/04/2022 00:26

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/04/2022 00:27

I didn't know they'd come over, is that fact or gossip?

viques · 15/04/2022 00:29

@Meltinthemiddle

I've never been a royalist but I have grown very fond of the queen and all she stands for. She puts all the other royals to shame. Very sad seeing her look so frail.
Yes I agree, I never thought much to her until they did the River Carnival thing quite a few years ago, it poured with rain relentlessly, was bitterly cold and she stood for about four hours without even a cup of tea, or g and t to sustain her, apparently she thought the chairs were too low and no one would be able to see her. She went up in my estimation that day, then she and Michelle Obama sort of hugged and clearly got on well, and that confirmed it. I felt so sorry for her at Phillips funeral, she looked so forlorn.
Blimecory · 15/04/2022 00:29

@SleepingStandingUp

I didn't know they'd come over, is that fact or gossip?
Come over where? To the U.K to see the Queen? That’s fact. It’s in the papers.
SleepingStandingUp · 15/04/2022 00:30

Thanks @Blimecory, I hadn't seen the news

lborgia · 15/04/2022 00:31

My granny was similarly constantly on the go (doing her own errands, not running the commonwealthGrin) until she was 91. She had a nasty virus and just suddenly had the wind knocked out of her sales.

She missed my grandfather, all her friends had died, and she said that extreme old age had nothing good to offer.

She was amazing, I see the similarities here. It's as if being stoic, having a good work ethic, good health, and a very comfortable life just aren't quite enough anymore.

Those things will get you through almost anything.

lameasahorse · 15/04/2022 00:34

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lborgia · 15/04/2022 00:36

@lameasahorse - agreed. I was distraught when she died, but now I realise that, whilst a completely reasonable reaction from me, she wasn't happy at all.

I've suddenly become very aware of my own mortality at 50 odd.. pretty sure my granny didn't think about it till then.

viques · 15/04/2022 00:37

@lameasahorse

I think there is a load of people who just seem to enjoy bashing Harry and Meghan with very little excuse.
I had a lot of sympathy for them initially, she was particularly badly treated by the press (and it seems likely by some RF members) so I understand why she is bitter, but he seems to have turned into a very entitled, petulant and grabby man. The idea of another 40 odd years of their peculiar mix of self flagellation and personal branding and selling to the highest bidder is a depressing thought. They seem to have taken advice from the Sarah Ferguson Self Enrichment Guide and are applying it to the letter.
lameasahorse · 15/04/2022 00:41

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Emmelina · 15/04/2022 00:43

She’s almost 96, has been looking increasingly frail for a while.
I’d like to think she’s just scaling down now and taking it easy, but as the Head of the Church of England it’s a very big deal to miss the Easter service, and coupled with Harry’s stop to visit despite his strong reservations about security…
I really hope it wasn’t a “this might be your last chance” visit, you know?

lborgia · 15/04/2022 00:50

@viques - I think it must be really difficult to find a new space when you've been a member of the RF.

Especially as"the spare", weirdly close to the crown, but not really.

Add the fact that he isn't... the most academic of men, and the peculiar level of attention he's grown up with, I really don't know how I'd expect anyone to handle that.

Throw in the dramatic loss of his mum, the catalogue of every moment of his dad's life, and there is literally nothing normal for him to hang on to.

I think it's wonderful that H &M clearly adore each other, but honestly, I can't help thinking he would've found a simpler path to follow if he'd married someone "sensible" who knew the system.

I'm absolutely not anti Meghan, I just think their life seems SO complicated!!

lameasahorse · 15/04/2022 00:53

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