Amber Heard - new accusations

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Amber Heard has now alleged Johnny Depp sexually assaulted her at the start of the defamation trial. Thoughts?

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/johnny-depp-amber-heard-trial-court-updates-b2056201.html

I thin

Depp’s performance on the witness stand today was some of the worst I have ever seen. I think his career will now be over.
Impeachment looks a possibility unless he changes tack considerably

He is not a public official. He cannot be impeached. The worst that will happen is he loses this case. And, whilst I haven't seen much of the cross examination myself, others who watched do not seem to agree with your assessment.

Ronald which bit was that?
Depends on amber really.

I think you must have been watching a different court case as evidenced by your impeachment comment, you have no idea what you are talking about.

impeach
v. 1) to discredit the testimony of a witness by proving that he/she has not told the truth or has been inconsistent, by introducing contrary evidence, including statements made outside of the courtroom in depositions or in statements of the witness heard by another 2) to charge a public official with a public crime for which the punishment is removal from office. One President, Andrew Johnson in 1868, was charged with violation of federal laws in a politically motivated impeachment, but was acquitted by the margin of one vote in a trial held by the Senate. President Richard Nixon resigned in 1974 rather than face impending impeachment charges brought by the House of Representatives in the Watergate affair, in which he was accused of obstructing the investigation and lying to Congress about his participation. Several federal judges have been impeached and nine have been found guilty by the Senate.

The medical expert will shed lights on the finger.
Apparently a bottle shattered it? But at the point of impact surely the bottle was intact? So how did it cut it?
Definitely not done by a knife .
Doctors in Australia dismissed his lie it was done in an accordion door...

So how?

Not all the way he says my finger is attributing him cutting it himself.
It's what people say rather than..the finger that Amber damaged.

My finger.

The tape they played last....I find it hard to buy.
At first jd sounds low voiced... cut myself etc...her trying to stop him but when a miad knocks on the door he sounds lighter and chipper...no don't come in...

Like don't disturb my attentions seeking? I don't know why she didn't walk out and get security he obviously just wanted attention.

Exactly - quite a lot of his testimony was inconsistent with his sworn and given testimony from the U.K. trial
Thus my impeachment remarks

are people not getting the fact IT DOES NOT MATTER IF SHE HIT HIM (for this legal case)

the case is only about whether her saying he hit her was true or not.

I wonder if Vanessa Paradis regrets supporting him now that she knows he thinks of her as a 'French extortionist ex cunt' who brainwashes their children, or is she too financially tied to him? He's a bitter and vicious man.

I agree he is bitter and vicious

he has had years and years of yes people around him years of being treated as special years of drug and alcohol abuse (on and off) but was still able to work and lead a life of luxury that allowed him to do as he pleased he arrogance is astounding

it’s all now come tumbling down

i found his performance pathetic an obvious attempt at manipulation

I believe her too.

I also believe him

They have both been both abuser and victim, by their own words.

It is nigh in impossible for anyone to be able to decide, if such a thing were actually possible, which one of them has more or less abusive. They both need to find a way to shut up and find themselves an effective way to work through the many factored fuck up that seems to be their lives.

I have never understood how, after having heard them both 'explain' themselves how anyone who isn't related to them is in anyway partisan in this. They are both completely Hollywood Bobbins!

EsmaCannonball

Absolutely Esma. I was 'Team Johnny' until he came out with this. How awful! She is the mother of his children and I think he cheated on her or at least left her for the turd! She stood up for him!

She lied about the make up she used to disguise bruises - how can anyone believe anything she says? I certainly don't.

Depp is obviously off his trolley and in need of help for his mental health issues.

Both awful but she is malicious and lies constantly.

They’re both as bad as each other imo. I don’t understand the unwavering support behind Depp because he clearly behaved awfully as well. I just don’t understand why they both keep dragging this out.

And that Mariebaby3 is the problem. There will be people on the jury who will be 'Amber is a bitch - and Johnny wouldn't do that'

Redshoeblueshoe

And the flip side is that there will be those on the jury that say 'I believe her and he must have done that'

From my limited understanding of juries, it will be up to the two legal teams to not allow either type on the jury.

Sickening carry on.

Depp is delusional. Claiming to be “obsessed with getting to the truth” while rolling out lie after lie.

Claiming not to be violent when there is video evidence of him being incredibly violent, when his atrocious texts are unearthed, when every phrase tumbling from his bitter mouth is snide, self-serving and grandiose.

he is utterly repugnant, and his dogmatic abuse of the legal system to pursue his ex-wife speaks volumes.

And the line up of cronies willing to perjure themselves in order to win favour with him ugh

It is also shocking to see how many people fail to grasp the premise of the case, that it is a dogged pursuit of his ex, as clear as is possible evidence of his toxic masculinity as is imaginable, rather than some equal-footed shake down of their relationship.

Like the $100 million dollar version of if I can’t have you, no one can. He’s utterly obsessed with destroying her, in denial about his grotesque behaviour and repugnant personality and, for someone with access to so many resources, extraordinarily ignorant emotionally.

What a waste of time, energy, money, and a vivid reminder of the narcissistic shitshow that is Hollywood.

The jury selection process was, in part, designed to ensure that there were no such people on the jury.

To be pedantic, it is about whether she libelled him. Given the way the law works in the USA, the jury could think that he did not hit her but still find that she has not libelled him. It isn't enough for him to convince the jury that he didn't hit her. He also has to convince them that her statements implying he did were made out of malice, i.e. that she knew they were untrue and made them with the intention of hurting him.

phr47bridge - it didn't exactly work out like that for Ghislaine Maxwell

He has behaved appallingly and it's his behaviour that was in the spotlight when he took on The Sun (and lost) and he has now started it all up after her unnamed (but definitely still about him) piece.

He cant see that he has behaved badly. He is still fighting to be absolved. All hes doing is making himself look worse and prolonging it and leading to more news his kids will be exposed to.

She might have been an abuser but she can also still be abused and has every right to write an anonymous piece without her ex dragging her to court jumping up and down that it's all about him.

What inconsistencies? I haven't spotted any, but I haven't watched the whole trial. However, if there were inconsistencies I would have expected Heard's lawyers to challenge him on this and, as far as I am aware, they have not done so. I would therefore be interested to know what inconsistencies you think there are.

RealBecca

I am fairly sure that he started the cases at roughly the same time.

@FrippEnos thanks! : )