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So, Boris is in Ukraine. Is it too much to hope...

159 replies

Kirstos1 · 09/04/2022 22:26

...he never comes back?

Why? What did you think I was going to say?

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derxa · 10/04/2022 14:28

@DesidaCrick

It would have done more good for him to stay at home and sort out the visa debacle. There are desperate and vulnerable people still hiding out in the middle of a war zone waiting for the UK’s chaotic visa process.
It wouldn't.
balalake · 10/04/2022 14:32

@Squiff70 I hope no-one wishes Mr Johnson dead. For the sake of his young children if for no other reason.

The visit to Ukraine I think was a photo opportunity, no need to go. The promise of more military support I have my doubts will actually happen though.

Neverreturntoathread · 10/04/2022 14:39

@GooseyLucie

So embarrassing to see him next to Zelensky.
Yep.

You could see they were both wondering how on earth Britain is powerful.

I think in a decade or two Ukraine is going to be a very big deal in Europe. It already had all the coal and wheat, now it’s got a heroic leader, and an experienced military armed with state of the art weapons from all over the world.

I hope they do well.

CPL593H · 10/04/2022 14:40

I have never voted Tory and have never had any time for BJ. However, even though it no doubt fed into his Churchillian fantasies, going was a good thing. If it gives the Ukrainian people one jot of comfort that the British leader showed up it would be worth it, but I also think it is sending a message to the Russian people, if it creeps through the censorship. Britain has many, many historical flaws but a great recent strength was the stand against Nazism. It helps give the lie to the Russian "de Nazification of Ukraine" propaganda.

I think BJs great great grandmother was a Circassian BTW, I vaguely remember something about her being sold in to slavery.

MyBeloved · 10/04/2022 14:45

Ukraine has stated that the UK government has been amongst their strongest allies.

I don't like a lot of what Bojo has done, but I'm not taking this away from him. Good on him.

Hawkins001 · 10/04/2022 14:50

@Squiff70

Can we trade him for Zelenskyy?
And given zelelskyy 's credentials, why would you prefer that ?
Hawkins001 · 10/04/2022 14:54

@Diverseopinions

I dislike the way that world politics is becoming about big political figures ( Trump, et al) and what they choose to do, on the basis of their own imaginative instincts, and personal interpretations. Even Macron is posturing and posing in he-man clothes. It is not about collegiate governing, anymore. It's like the little people are the little people and the leaders are these noble figures making strategic moves, and cheered or booed by the plebs.

The little people don't visit their relatives in care homes: the Prime Minister swigs the wine every Friday with a crowd of cronies.

Boris says people will have to choose to eat cheaper food, but it's cool for Rishi to have permanent US citizenship as he works in Number Ten, and for his family members to avoid paying millions in tax.

I don't like the way things are going and Starter doesn't make an impression. I think Emily Thornberry would be better: strong and opinionated, when someone needs to challenge misuse of privilege.

Boris visits Kyiv without the laurel wreath, but with the same emperor- like bearing. Zelensky is a figurehead who makes great expansive speeches, but he does feel emotion for the people and shares their plight - although his financial status is fishy. Boris is strutting meaninglessly, making the fighting in Ukraine look more like an international war, and declining to be careful, and looking like we're staying out of the conflict - to avoid an escalation of tensions.

Boris has messed up Brexit and landed us with monstrous inflation; he doesn't possess the good judgement to be the one deciding whether it's good or not to posture in the middle of misery. Someone needs to stop him and put him in his place.

I would of thought on the specifics of the leaders, it's usually been similar in history, e.g. Genghis Khan, Attila the hun, Churchill etc,

But in General the leaders change, But the influences, the corporation, the lobbyists etc, will still be there influencing the next leaders.

DoctorTwo · 10/04/2022 15:01

Putin must be disgusted. All that money diverted through his oligarchs to the Tory party and this is how they treat him? You can't even buy loyalty nowadays. Whatever next.

BiggerBoat1 · 10/04/2022 15:01

@Tsuni you know Boris actually did hide in a fridge right?

What a weird thing to think it would be fat-shaming.

As if the shape of his body could ever be the worst thing about him.

For what its worth I actually think he may well have done a good thing by visiting Ukraine. He'll be back here buggering up the country soon enough though.

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 10/04/2022 15:22

@Squiff70

I'm quite sure I've read every post on this thread and can't see anyone actually wishing Boris dead. I may have missed a post!
Comments like this one perhaps, early in the thread:

Can't say I'd be gutted if a bomb happened to fall on his twatty head.
I'd probably throw a party.

People don't often come back from a bomb to the head so I'd say that qualifies as wishing him dead.

Hawkins001 · 10/04/2022 15:30

@DoctorTwo

Putin must be disgusted. All that money diverted through his oligarchs to the Tory party and this is how they treat him? You can't even buy loyalty nowadays. Whatever next.
Or their is more too it all, and we are only given a small piece of the puzzle
maeveiscurious · 10/04/2022 16:59

@Tangerinedreamisatheme

Go on the feminist threads. They love him Confused.
He can identify a woman by her biology Grin
anxiousstanley · 10/04/2022 17:01

@marjayy

Can't say I'd be gutted if a bomb happened to fall on his twatty head.

I'd probably throw a party.

What a horrible post this is. Shame on you regardless of you political views.
MrsLargeEmbodied · 10/04/2022 18:02

@SayYouDontMind

i love that song - Colin Blunstone

jowly · 10/04/2022 18:07

Whatever your political views he is a husband and father, never mind a human being.

100problems · 10/04/2022 18:42

Convenient trip right after throwing Mrs Sunak under the bus.

HardyBuckette · 10/04/2022 18:43

@DoctorTwo

Putin must be disgusted. All that money diverted through his oligarchs to the Tory party and this is how they treat him? You can't even buy loyalty nowadays. Whatever next.
Lmao. Hopefully the UK can announce harsher sanctions and make Putin even more upset at his bad investment.
BiggerBoat1 · 10/04/2022 19:23

@jowly

Whatever your political views he is a husband and father, never mind a human being.
Correct. Terrible husband, father and human being. He has demonstrably failed at all three.

Still don't wish him dead though. Rather let history judge him.

Rachelw84 · 10/04/2022 20:04

Nobody really wants to see Boris Johnson dead

I’d prefer he spends the rest of his life in jail instead

Hawkins001 · 10/04/2022 21:39

@Rachelw84

Nobody really wants to see Boris Johnson dead

I’d prefer he spends the rest of his life in jail instead

On what charges ?
Rachelw84 · 10/04/2022 22:26

@Hawkins001

  • Democide with his reckless covid strategy
  • Funnelling thousands of taxpayer pounds to support his lover Jennifer Acuri
  • Allowing Russian interference in British politics which ultimately resulted in Brexit
  • PPE contacts worth billions to friends

Johnson is the worst prime minister this country has had in living memory

Moooooooooooooooooo · 11/04/2022 00:42

What a vile thread this is.

ozymandiusking · 11/04/2022 00:48

You really can be an unpleasant lot can't you?

ozymandiusking · 11/04/2022 00:53

I'd like to have seen how the labour lot would have got on, with Covid etc. You vote for them in the future and believe you me you'll regret it.
And as for that Rachel further up the thread, she can get lost as well.

WellThisIsShit · 11/04/2022 04:07

I loathe the man, but I’m glad he’s doing the right thing by showing the Ukrainian people that we stand close and talk with them Flowers