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How can Baby P's mother be let out?!

120 replies

jowly · 30/03/2022 17:57

Apparently approved for parole, but being challenged by the gov.

How can a civilised society even consider it.

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Kittykat93 · 30/03/2022 17:58

Can't believe anyone would believe she is safe to be a part of society. She's a monster.

Monsterjam · 30/03/2022 18:00

I suspect because she has served the minimum time for this to be considered. If she didn’t get a whole life sentence (do these still exist??) then she has to come out at some point.

tiddlywinks2 · 30/03/2022 18:00

I couldn't believe it when I saw it, no one that evil can be rehabilitated. That poor baby, it's one case I can never get out of my head. Sad

NecklessMumster · 30/03/2022 18:02

'Civilised ' society has laws for prison sentences, not mob rule/ rule by media

torthecatlady · 30/03/2022 18:03

I was shocked to read that she was let out on licence a few years ago... but broke her parole conditions so ended up back behind bars.

BBC Link

FOJN · 30/03/2022 18:08

This wiki page states she was released on license in 2013 but returned to prison in 2015 for breaching her probation (called parole on the wiki page) conditions. The page also mentions that she was tried for another offence in 2009 relating to the rape of a two year old. How can this woman be considered safe for release?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Baby_P

SaxendaSummer · 30/03/2022 18:12

To be honest I thought she was out of prison still!

Are they contesting it because she broke licence terms last time I wonder

namechangedforthiz · 30/03/2022 18:12

I thought she was out ages ago?

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MadeForThis · 30/03/2022 18:17

It's disgusting that she can be freed early.

CurryandSnuggle · 30/03/2022 18:18

I agree. Disgusting. That poor poor baby 💔 She’s a danger to society and innocent, defenceless children.

SkiingIsHeaven · 30/03/2022 18:18

The parole board is not fit for purpose

CurryandSnuggle · 30/03/2022 18:18

Makes my blood boil!!

sarahtalkstoomuch · 30/03/2022 18:20

@Monsterjam

I suspect because she has served the minimum time for this to be considered. If she didn’t get a whole life sentence (do these still exist??) then she has to come out at some point.
And she never would have got a whole life tariff (they still exist, not sure of the current terminology) because she wasn’t convicted of murder, just causing or allowing a death.

She was only jailed for 5 years in the first place and has already been released between 2013 to 2015

BoodleBug51 · 30/03/2022 18:22

Jesus wept.

That's horrific.

She's one of the few cases that has made me wish for compulsory sterilisation.

CurryandSnuggle · 30/03/2022 18:24

@sarahtalkstoomuch I find that mental. How can “causing” and “allowing” a death not be murder. Our legal system seriously needs an overhaul, especially when it comes to abuse of the most defenceless in our society.

IroningBoardz · 30/03/2022 18:24

I thought she was out years ago.

ThatBlastCameFromTheDeathStar · 30/03/2022 18:31

[quote CurryandSnuggle]@sarahtalkstoomuch I find that mental. How can “causing” and “allowing” a death not be murder. Our legal system seriously needs an overhaul, especially when it comes to abuse of the most defenceless in our society.[/quote]
Because of the intention. In order for someone to be convicted of murder you have to prove that they intended to kill the victim.

Viviennemary · 30/03/2022 18:34

Shd should never be allowed into society again.

Rubyupbeat · 30/03/2022 18:43

There are certain cases that scream out sterilization!

EthelTheAardvark · 30/03/2022 18:52

@MadeForThis

It's disgusting that she can be freed early.
She isn't being released early. She was originally sentenced to an indeterminate sentence with a minimum of five years, but has served ten years so far. She was released on parole and then reimprisoned for breach of parole terms.

The criterion for release is whether she poses a danger to the public and in particular small children. I would guess that the parole board took the view that the latter risk could be managed by supervision and reporting requirements, and also restrictions on where she lives and where she can go. It's pretty clear that she would never be allowed to be in charge of any small child again in future. It would however be useful to know what the previous parole breach was, whether it involved children in any way, and what satisfied the parole board that she would keep to the terms this time.

Supersee · 30/03/2022 19:00

The Parole Board never get it wrong do they Hmm

She already had a chance in the community, she fucked it up pretty quickly. She's fine where she is.

MrsPinkCock · 30/03/2022 19:01

@ThatBlastCameFromTheDeathStar

Because of the intention. In order for someone to be convicted of murder you have to prove that they intended to kill the victim.

Not in the UK. If you intended to cause your victim harm but accidentally kill them, you’re still guilty of murder.

Which is why the decision is even more mind boggling!

I can only assume the CPS wanted to ensure a conviction for something and that charge was easier to prove…

WomblingWilma · 30/03/2022 19:03

Shockingly no one was convicted of murder in this case IIRC. The 3 of them ripped off the fingernails from a tiny toddler, broke his back (he died from internal bleeding) and punched him so hard he swallowed a tooth but they didn’t intend to kill him. Honestly?

She’s being allowed out precisely because we are a so called civilised society. Not sure if the other 2 are yet? Civilised in that we feel it is immoral to end the life of people who kill children and should spend hundreds of thousands of pounds of tax payers money ‘rehabilitating’ them and/or housing, feeding and entertaining them while they’re in prison.

kissmelittleass · 30/03/2022 19:09

Please god how can it be allowed.. more than any case this one broke my heart I often think of that beautiful little boy still and cry for him. I don't know all the details because I couldn't bear to listen to all of it on the news especially playing a video of what was happening, it distressed me so much.
I hope that evil bitch can never sleep again and lives in fear every minute of the day I hope someone makes her life a living hell