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How can Baby P's mother be let out?!

120 replies

jowly · 30/03/2022 17:57

Apparently approved for parole, but being challenged by the gov.

How can a civilised society even consider it.

OP posts:
Florenz · 30/03/2022 21:33

She should be kept locked up until she is dead.

Hearwego · 30/03/2022 21:36

Are those equally vile men still in prison ? Or are they free now too ?

NowEvenBetter · 30/03/2022 21:39

She unfortunately already produced several kids in addition to the poor one she killed.

myyellowcar · 30/03/2022 21:39

She should be in prison for a good time longer.

How is a child’s life worth so little that you can facilitate their torture and death and be walking the streets before he would have even been an adult?

Absolutely disgusting.

maddy68 · 30/03/2022 21:40

I am not saying she should be let out but I do have an issue with government ministers overturning court /parole decisions.

If they don't have confidence in the law then that is the issue and needs change . It's not for mps to decide because of bad press

BodgertheJogger · 30/03/2022 21:44

Lack of prison places will be partly to do with this.

Cakecakemorecake · 30/03/2022 21:52

I believe in rehabilitation. (Although i don't think we are very good at it.)

I do feel however that when people have hurt children in the way the way this child and other children have been hurt, then our duty to protect children outweighs giving such offenders a chance at rehabilitation. Children are wholly dependent. They cannot protect themselves.

No licence conditions can guarantee she won't hurt another child. Thousands of offenders are recalled every year.

NowEvenBetter · 30/03/2022 21:55

Her lovers brother who participated in the torture and killing only got 6 years, the lover got 32 years. Connolly is 40 years old and sent pornographic photos of herself to men who admired her child killer status, this shows she will seek out similar blokes yet again and is of still fertile age. Doesn’t bear thinking about.

NowEvenBetter · 30/03/2022 21:56

(She has 3 or 4 other surviving kids)

Hearwego · 30/03/2022 22:03

I didn’t realise that one of Baby Ps killers for 32 years.
She will be given a nice flat, benefits , things that most people struggle to get.
Hardly a punishment.
Sickening that there are warped men out there that are attracted to her status...

Lou98 · 30/03/2022 22:06

I believe in redemption, however, I don't for a second believe that anybody that is capable of doing what they did to that poor child is capable of changing that much.

All three should have been charged with murder, Baby P wouldn't even have been an adult yet and she gets to go live her life

HRTQueen · 30/03/2022 22:07

I guess she behaved well and engaged with professionals as required

Really not on when you compare to other sentences

Hearwego · 30/03/2022 22:07

The whole purpose of the justice system is to protect the public. We hear time and time again that people who’ve killed children or vulnerable people , get recalled to prison.

Some people are just not wired right. She’s not fit to be in society.

I’d rather she lead a meaningful and useful life in prison. Atleast she’s protected from society and society is protected from her.

ohMaggieMaggieMae · 30/03/2022 22:31

Baby P would of been 16 now.
Same age as one of my own children, It upset me so much when the case came to news. I remember looking at my child thinking how could anybody ever do such a thing. I will never understand it, as long as I live.
The Vile Creature should remain in prison for life as should the other two.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 30/03/2022 22:34

@maddy68

I am not saying she should be let out but I do have an issue with government ministers overturning court /parole decisions.

If they don't have confidence in the law then that is the issue and needs change . It's not for mps to decide because of bad press

Yes, this.

If she has served her sentence and she poses no risk to the public, then there is absolutely no legitimate reason for keeping her in prison. Raab trying to prevent her release is nothing more than cynical political posturing designed to pander to public ignorance and vindictiveness.

Hopefully the Parole Board ignore him.

HRTQueen · 30/03/2022 22:53

Parole boards make mistakes

I would rather at times the government steps in they should not be allowed to make decisions without at times having to explain further as to why decisions have been made (John Warboys…) and the decision to be reviewed

Hearwego · 30/03/2022 23:11

**If she has served her sentence and she poses no risk to the public, then there is absolutely no legitimate reason for keeping her in prison. Raab trying to prevent her release is nothing more than cynical political posturing designed to pander to public ignorance and vindictiveness.

Hopefully the Parole Board ignore him.

I disagree wholeheartedly. Maybe she doesn’t pose a risk to the public, but she should have originally been given a very long time in prison for the death of her child.
This wasn’t a one off mistake, it was months of abuse.
No right minded human being would treat a defenceless child like that.

kissmelittleass · 30/03/2022 23:22

@NowEvenBetter omg that has sickened me to the pit of my stomach no child is safe where is the justice if she is freed

Florenz · 30/03/2022 23:25

The justice system in this country is broken. Lack of prison places shouldn't be an issue. Build more prisons, and just cram them in to existing prisons until the new ones are built.

Hearwego · 30/03/2022 23:35

**The justice system in this country is broken. Lack of prison places shouldn't be an issue. Build more prisons, and just cram them in to existing prisons until the new ones are built.

Female prisoners make up probably about 10 per cent of the whole population.
Prison places shouldn’t be an issue- if it was, they should release the shop lifters and petty criminals and make room for people like her.
What can be more serious than harming/ killing a child ?!

EthelTheAardvark · 31/03/2022 00:15

*She will never be allowed to be near or to have children. She will also be a social pariah and will be "punished" in this way for the rest of her life, as well as with (hopefully) crippling shame and regret for what she did.^

What makes you say that? She can easily change her name and appearance. What would stop her having contact with children?

Whatever she does to change her name, both the Probation Service and the police will be keeping tabs on her, and that would include contacting anyone she gets friendly with who has children to warn them. Of course there are no absolute guarantees, but she will know (not least because of her previous recall) that the second she steps out of line she is highly likely to be imprisoned immediately.

EthelTheAardvark · 31/03/2022 00:16

@Florenz

The justice system in this country is broken. Lack of prison places shouldn't be an issue. Build more prisons, and just cram them in to existing prisons until the new ones are built.
We already imprison more people than most Western countries, and it has achieved nothing in terms of reducing crime rates. There has to be a more effective way.
EthelTheAardvark · 31/03/2022 00:18

@HRTQueen

Parole boards make mistakes

I would rather at times the government steps in they should not be allowed to make decisions without at times having to explain further as to why decisions have been made (John Warboys…) and the decision to be reviewed

The problem really arises because of the sentence she was given. There is nothing the parole board can do to change that.
Florenz · 31/03/2022 00:27

"We already imprison more people than most Western countries, and it has achieved nothing in terms of reducing crime rates. There has to be a more effective way."
There's too much money to be made in crime "prevention", the police, the legal system with all the ridiculous lawyers fees, private security firms, etc etc. The whole thing is a massive racket. Most law-abiding people in this country are 100% anti-crime and anti-criminal and yet the rights of the criminal take precedence, just about every time.

EthelTheAardvark · 31/03/2022 00:34

@Florenz, you're right about ridiculous lawyers' fees: legal aid fees paid to criminal lawyers are ludicrously low, below the national minimum wage.

Rights of the criminal don't take precedence. Why do you imagine we have a police force, justice system and prison system at all if that were the case?

We do in fact need to have quite a lot more money put into the justice system. Current delays in bringing cases to trial are absolutely appalling, and it is resulting in serious injustice to victims of crime.