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Should Will loose his Oscar?

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SpringHasSprungYay · 29/03/2022 20:30

Should we forgive him because it's out of character?

Has his mental heslth taken a turn for the worse because of Jada's infidelity & narcissism?

Is it really never ok to mention a black woman's hair?

Can words really be the same as violence?

So many issues to unpick here!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbsnJ5Po6Eh/?utm medium=copyy_link

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Raggletagglegypsy · 30/03/2022 08:18

Only if it is too tight!

FloBot7 · 30/03/2022 08:20

I don't think so. As pointed out, people who have done far far worse still have their Oscar so it would send the wrong message.

Habitatty282 · 30/03/2022 08:33

FloBot7 I don't think so. As pointed out, people who have done far far worse still have their Oscar so it would send the wrong message

But this is the first incident post Me Too movement. The Acadamy has changed its policies since then and its has taken a clear stance on what behaviour will not be tolerated. Physical assault being one of them. Letting him keep it will also send out the wrong message. If WS had done this to a woman there'd be no hesitation to revoke it (post me too) it shouldn't really make a difference that he was violent towards a man.

He shouldn't actually have received it in the first place but i can imagine the producers and board panicked.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 30/03/2022 08:34

I don’t think he should lose his oscar

Chris Rock may not have known about the alopecia but he did a whole documentary on black womens hair with the take home basically being ‘don’t talk about black womens hair’

FloBot7 · 30/03/2022 08:40

Harvey Weinstein's Oscar wasn't that long ago and his behaviour was something of an open secret in Hollywood. Revoking his Oscar would have sent a far stronger message.

FloBot7 · 30/03/2022 08:41

Harvey Weinstein's Oscar wasn't that long ago and his behaviour was something of an open secret in Hollywood. Revoking his Oscar would have sent a far stronger message.

southeastdweller · 30/03/2022 08:49

The academy’s code of conduct was set up in late 2017 so too late for Weinstein.

notanotheroneagain · 30/03/2022 08:50

If Will Smith looses his Oscar, there is a bloody long queue in front of him. And his little slap is nothing compared to what others have been up to.
Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, Harvey Weinstein, Michael Douglas, Douglas Hoffman, Richard Dreyfuss, Paul Haggis, James Franco, Kevin Spacey, Casey Affleck, Mel Gibson, Arthur Freed, John Wayne etc.

In the future, WS will be the butt of jokes ofcourse, I suspect he has resigned himself to that, but for Jada, he is willing to take it. This is not the first time Jada has been target, certainly not the first by CR. It seems she is starting to constantly feature on gags. I have noticed lately that there is a trend to ridicule and target black women who are in positions of fame.
I have linked this article before, but it will help you understand the history of CR and WS and why it's ridiculous to label WS as some violent abuser.

www.teenvogue.com/story/will-smith-chris-rock-slap-situation-is-not-about-you?utm_source=twitter&mbid=social_twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_brand=tv

LaurieFairyCake · 30/03/2022 08:53

I'd have said yes definitely until you said Polanksi rapist still had his

oldwhyno · 30/03/2022 08:56

No, he shouldn't lose his oscar.

Absolutely no way on earth it was staged.

Will Smith is in a long term mental health crisis.

His wife is the knowing architect of his humiliation and a coercive abuser.

KELLOGSspeck · 30/03/2022 09:07

@oldwhyno

No, he shouldn't lose his oscar.

Absolutely no way on earth it was staged.

Will Smith is in a long term mental health crisis.

His wife is the knowing architect of his humiliation and a coercive abuser.

Your bang on about his wife absolutely agree.

KELLOGSspeck · 30/03/2022 09:13

@southeastdweller

What would WS have to gain by staging it? He's been hugely successful for decades and had been the favourite for months to win the Oscar.

Personally what made me think it was possibly staged was I actually watched it twice... the way he casually walked up to Chris Rock.... and that slap? Really someone has offended you and you slap like that? Give over.

The way people are using terms as physical assault and violently struck across the face are exaggeration by far. That slap was pathetic along with Wills walk after he did it

SquirrelG · 30/03/2022 09:14

He won the Oscar for his acting, and that hasn't changed. It's all a storm in a teacup.

LondonWolf · 30/03/2022 09:23

The way people are using terms as physical assault and violently struck across the face are exaggeration by far. That slap was pathetic

You'll not mind if your work colleagues start slapping each other, and you "pathetically" across the face if you say something they don't like then? Watch the video. His head rocks back, you hear the thud as it hits. It was a violent attack, a chastising slap. Anyone who wants to can watch it and see what it was.

I too think his wife is a coercive abuser and I have to wonder why his younger son in particular looks so dead eyed and sad in almost every photo I see him in. Also Will Smith himself says that his son spoke of emancipating himself from his parents at one time.

Habitatty282 · 30/03/2022 09:25

KELLOGSspeck it absolutely was a violent physical assault. Imagine if you were at work and someone else did that to you! How would you feel? I know in my workplace they'd be immediately escorted off the premises, dismissed and reported to the police.

southeastdweller · 30/03/2022 09:30

@SquirrelG

He won the Oscar for his acting, and that hasn't changed. It's all a storm in a teacup.

It could very well change, depending on the results of the investigation.

KELLOGSspeck · 30/03/2022 09:33

@Habitatty282

Yes and BOTH parties would be removed you wouldn't just continue at work would you??. I never said it was not assault. I said it was exaggerated by far. My personal opinion! Calm down.

Habitatty282 · 30/03/2022 09:45

KELLOGSspeck I'm perfectly calm if you felt able to continue working then you'd be allowed to do so.

The way people are using terms as physical assault and violently struck across the face are exaggeration by far If its not a physical assault then what is it? Its certainly that in the eyes of the law. I guess peoples opinion on what's classed as violent is dependent on their own life experiences. Personally I think it was.

RiaG91 · 30/03/2022 09:48

Whilst I don't condone his behaviour, the Oscar has nothing to do with his actions at the show. It was won as a result of his acting talent - fair and square.

On a separate note, did anyone notice him actually laughing at the joke before he went nuts and slapped Chris rock?!

KELLOGSspeck · 30/03/2022 09:49

@Habitatty282 at no point did I say it wasn't assault. I spoke upon how I thought the slap was pathetic to the point of been possibly staged. But continue to spin your own narrative. Yes I agree about work places.... BUT in celeb world that's not the case is it? It never is... so no point being unrealistic!

Habitatty282 · 30/03/2022 09:59

KELLOGSspeck You're saying that the term physical assault is an exaggeration

The way people are using terms as physical assault and violently struck across the face are exaggeration by far

I'm pointing out that it's not an exaggeration, it's an accurate reference to what happened.

If you feel that calling it a physical assault is exaggerating then what would you call it? Although it's not really up for debate, the law is the law.

Yes I agree about work places.... BUT in celeb world that's not the case is it? It never is... so no point being unrealistic!

And this is the whole point of the Me Too movement. To make those who hold the power in Hollywood accountable for their actions. They're not above the law, film sets, award shows etc should be treated as work places like any other to protect those working in them. It's not about being unrealistic it's about change.

MrsBerthaRochester · 30/03/2022 10:01

Yes he should lose the oscar. If he had got up and slapped host Amy schumer for telling a joke he would be in jail.
There is something very wrong in the Smith household. His kids are clearly junkies. Have you SEEN the article where they claim they can control time?!!

PaddlingLikeADuck · 30/03/2022 10:08

Until this thread I had no idea there was any controversy around Will and Jada’s home life. I thought they were just a normal married couple.

Comments about them on here have left me absolutely baffled so I’m going to have to go and Google them now!

GeneLovesJezebel · 30/03/2022 10:10

No, but he should have been removed from the building immediately.

oldwhyno · 30/03/2022 10:27

@RiaG91

Whilst I don't condone his behaviour, the Oscar has nothing to do with his actions at the show. It was won as a result of his acting talent - fair and square.

On a separate note, did anyone notice him actually laughing at the joke before he went nuts and slapped Chris rock?!

Yes, millions of people that have watched the full footage have seen the sequence of events.

He tried to laugh off the joke (that's what you do to an Oscar roast) until he saw his wife's reaction and he realised she had not found it funny/was offended.

The question is, why did he then react so explosively? Because he's a dick? Because of toxic masculinity? No, there's way more going on there.

Watch the many Red Table Talk videos in Youtube of Will and Jada talking about why she shagged one of their kid's friends.

This one is obviously edited, but it really shines a spotlight on what's going on:

This one is more balanced, but get a feel for the comments:

She is the villain here. Will is the victim. Chris Rock an unlucky but irrelevant bit part.

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