1. Campaign for your breed clubs/breed council to get them added. That would go through on the nod, many clubs have done it. Who do you think paid for the development of testing for CM/SM, or at least a big part of it?
Do you not think that if the KC cared they’d do it themselves..?
Seriously.
Why does an organisation that allegedly exists to create and promote better dogs need harrassing by the breed club?
2. Not nonsense. A curled lip or growl would not be enough. Bite a judge? Get punished. You can see owners being punished for this as a matter of public record. Judges are, however supposed to take growling etc into account when placing dogs
So growling and lip curling is acceptable behaviour to a stranger then is it?
As long as it doesn’t bite?
You think a dog that growls at people is still a good example of its breed?
A good example to breed from?
3. Doesn't matter why. It happened. They acted. Should it have been quicker? Of course. As regards the Cav litter, if it's the one I think you mean they were deregistered and the breeder banned from registering at all
But it literally only happened because they were concerned about image!
They don’t care.
The cavaliers are just one example.
They are still registering puppy farmed dogs even now.
4. Idiotic people are the biggest problem for dogs. Is the KC perfect? No, far from it. Worst thing that ever happened to dogs? Give your head a wobble
No, give your head a wobble.
Think about it, aside from Foxhounds, how many ‘working’ dogs do you know that conform to breed standards AND work?
There is a clear divide now between work and show labs, retrievers, spaniels, collies, pointers...
Most show bred working dogs look nothing like the working bred version and most are no longer able to do the job they were bred to do.
The Jack Russel will go the same way.
And what about the extremes to the detriment of dog health?
Excessive wrinkling, droopy eyes, too short legs, it just goes on and on and on.
No one genuinely concerned for dog welfare that can tell me that a Shar Pei for example is a dog with healthy conformation.
If the KC cared, the standard for the Shar pei (amongst many others) would not exist.
5. So have I, and yes that should not be allowed. Doesn't alter the fact that both websites are a disgrace and full of utter wankers who lie, cheat and are greedy. Sadly some are KCAB and many of us are trying to get that stopped
Again, if the KC really cared, you wouldn’t need to be ‘trying’ would you?
6. Also true but at least we can bloody see them! Breed clubs must police their own breeds as far as possible
7. In our breed it was. The breed standard was changed to encourage better eye shape and therefore health. For many years there was a huge improvement but now the greeders have moved in and ballsed it up again. It's very sad. Because the problem is 'fixable' and not life threatening some idiots think it's not important
Define ‘better’ eye shape?
The breed standards call for eyes that in many breeds are outright detrimental eg St Bernard.
Do I think the KC is the 8th wonder of the world? No. It's too large, too slow to react, too old fashioned. Worst thing for dogs
Utter balls and that sort of hysteria just drives naive puppy seekers into the arms of the real monsters, hence the explosion of demented doodle type crosses with unmanageable coats and false claims of being good for allergy sufferers, various unregulated bully type crosses, and 'purebreds' of very dubious provenance in stupid colours with endless health problems. None of that is on the KC
It is on the KC.
If the KC ensured that the breed standards supported best health, if they insisted on satisfactory health scores, if they acted quickly and severely in cases of overbreeding, puppy farming, neglect etc the public would respect them more and trust them more.
Many people view the KC as an elitist, farcical organisation that take perfectly healthy dogs and turn them into unhealthy, ridiculous caricatures of dogs.
So they go to non KC breeders where they can get a GSD that actually looks like a proper working dog or a clumber spaniel that looks like an actual spaniel instead of a fat dumpy short legged monstrosity with sore eyes.
Even the poodle mixes you mentioned.
When people think of a poodle they don’t think of a smart, athletic water retrieving dog, they think of a stupidly clipped, pompous dog that looks absolutely fucking ridiculous.
Whose fault would that be?
Oh yes, that would be the KC.
And don’t start with the whole ‘oh the clip is functional’ bollocks.
No it isn’t.
Newfoundland’s do not have their coats clipped in such a ridiculous way and they too are water dogs and neither do working poodles, they wear a short puppy clip.