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Oh, Nazanin. How dignified you are.

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AnyFucker · 21/03/2022 13:12

Just seen a clip of the press conference she gave. How generous of her to share it with the daughter of a man still trapped in Iran.

How composed and articulate she is. Honestly, with so many fucking idiots in power, how do we keep the faith in the face of what happened to Nazanin.

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DuncinToffee · 21/03/2022 16:13

Where's the incompetency?

Boris Johnson

bookworm14 · 21/03/2022 16:16

[quote Yeahthat]@Papayamya

Yes it's an extraordinary level of entitlement. "I'm going to go to an authoritarian country with draconian laws, which recently imprisoned people involved in similar programmes as I am for 11 years. I'll go there using my dual nationality of that country therefore being seen as a subject of theirs. It will then be up to the British government to pay £400 million to fix that mistake for me if anything goes wrong."[/quote]
Entitlement?? How is it entitled to want to visit your own parents?

pollyannaperspective · 21/03/2022 16:17

Well Yeahthat we will just have to agree to differ on each of our personal views about this individual woman and the UK Govt. May none of us ever have the misfortune to experience anything similar and I include in that at the hands of the UK Govt.

SueSaid · 21/03/2022 16:18

@DuncinToffee

Where's the incompetency?

Boris Johnson

You think it's all Bozo's fault and not the totalitarian regime with form for detaining folk particularly those with dual nationalities?

Riiiight. I mean I know some mumsnetters think everything is his fault but I think you're stretching things a bit here.

This is what they do in places like Iran! I'm not victim blaming but I wonder why she didn't have any idea she may be a target. Nice to visit parents but I think they'd have been better off meeting elsewhere.

balalake · 21/03/2022 16:19

Please if you have elections in May, remember that Boris Johnson cared so little about Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe that he could not read up on her situation thoroughly before appearing at a House of Commons committee hearing.

Don't say how wonderful today's press conference was, and then insult her by voting Tory in May.

DuncinToffee · 21/03/2022 16:21

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe - "I don't agree with Richard on thanking the Foreign Secretary, because I have seen 5 Foreign Secretaries over the course of the 6 years.. I was told many times that we're going to get you home, but that never happened.. I'm not going to even trust you"

bookworm14 · 21/03/2022 16:23

She's been under house arrest recently at her parents I believe. I don't think we're talking Midnight Express here though of course being detained by a foreign regime must have been terrifying and of being separated from her dd and dh would have been traumatic.

She spent four years in the notoriously unpleasant Evin Prison, including periods in solitary confinement. Psychological torture was used against her.

SueSaid · 21/03/2022 16:23

@DuncinToffee

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe - "I don't agree with Richard on thanking the Foreign Secretary, because I have seen 5 Foreign Secretaries over the course of the 6 years.. I was told many times that we're going to get you home, but that never happened.. I'm not going to even trust you"
It's just unbelievable isn't it.

All their fault 🙄

IKnowYouDontTurnTheLightOn · 21/03/2022 16:23

@JaniieJones, you do realise that one of those Foreign Secretaries we none other than our incompetent prick of a PM who managed to increase her sentence because he's such an utter twat?

I think LT had very little to do with gaining her freedom - I think it was far more about political expediency because of what's happening in eastern Europe sadly. But Truss will dine out on her 'success' until the dawn of time, of course Hmm.

thebear1 · 21/03/2022 16:28

She's entitled to feel how the hell she wants, she was the one locked up for 6 years. The mind boggles as to how people can lack empath and actually lay blame for the situation on her.

Yeahthat · 21/03/2022 16:28

@bookworm14
There's no entitlement if you accept that you're doing so at your own risk and will be entirely responsible if it goes wrong. When you start to blame other people for the risks that you chose to take and think they're obliged to fix them - that's entitlement.

Frankly, she should have got back, said thank you, and then got on with it.

@balalake
Thanks for the advice. I will be voting Conservative, despite this monumental waste of money - primarily because I think there's more to it and it possibly has to do with a desire for Iranian oil.

bookworm14 · 21/03/2022 16:28

Johnson undoubtedly made the situation worse for her with his ‘training journalists’ comment, which was a) not what she went to Iran for and b) not what she did for a living.

SueSaid · 21/03/2022 16:29

'you do realise that one of those Foreign Secretaries we none other than our incompetent prick of a PM who managed to increase her sentence because he's such an utter twat?'

I think you're giving Bozo too much credit here. They weren't releasing her until they got their money regardless of what he said about her alleged journalism.

TheOnlyMrsMac · 21/03/2022 16:29

I saw the press conference. All power to Nazanin. She expressed her own opinion from her own lived experience about Liz Truss and her predecessors, as she is now - thank God - finally free to do after 6 long years. It's a pity that the usual pps want to pipe up to cheerlead for Boris Johnson and the Conservative government. A new low though, piping up to criticise Nazanin, a newly released hostage - a hostage to this government's unpaid debt to Iran, a fact they knew for almost the whole 6 years and let her rot rather than pay. I'm sorry that she's 'not grateful enough' for some. We sadly have Putin's war on Ukraine to thank for the timing and this government's need to find alternative suppliers of oil, together with the nucleur agreement. Otherwise I think she would not be home now either.

This is what matters now - see photo - together with securing the remaining detainees' freedom.

Oh, Nazanin. How dignified you are.
IKnowYouDontTurnTheLightOn · 21/03/2022 16:33

@JaniieJones I wouldn't give Johnson 'credit' for anything. And I wouldn't give any of this government any credit for doing the right thing for Nazanin either. She doesn't have to be crawlingly grateful to this shower of shits, and the Mrs Thatcher Lite excuse we have for an FS now. We live in a democracy and she's free to pour scorn on those who did nothing while she was in jail and if you don't agree with her you're free to disagree too.

Pieceofpurplesky · 21/03/2022 16:37

She will be fully aware that, but for the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the loss of oil, she would still be in Iran.

The ignorance of a couple of posters (and the comments on Twitter). No wonder the country is such a shit show

Yeahthat · 21/03/2022 16:37

@TheOnlyMrsMac

The UK government was entirely correct not to pay that debt, and at some stage it wasn't even possible due to US sanctions. She was in prison in Iran because she chose to take a very stupid, and known, risk by going there. No, she's not worth £400 million. I'd same the same if it were a young smart ass that decided to go to North Korea or Afghanistan and got themselves in trouble. Maybe in future people that choose to visit these countries should be required to sign contracts before they go accepting that whatever subsequently happens is at their own risk.

SueSaid · 21/03/2022 16:40

'I'm sorry that she's 'not grateful enough' for some'

Nazanin Zaghari Radcliffe doesn't have to be 'grateful enough' just show some recognition of the work of those involved who secured her release rather than criticising the amount of FSs who were involved 2, 5 10? who cares.

She, more than anyone should know the Iranian regime will be rather challenging to negotiate with.

JanisMoplin · 21/03/2022 16:42

Jesus Christ, she was visiting her parents, not on some Insta holiday in Afghanistan. Next: why did she choose to move away from her parents?

A new low indeed.

IKnowYouDontTurnTheLightOn · 21/03/2022 16:46

@JaniieJones but none of us know who did the work and how much of it. She may know more than most. Maybe she doesn't. It wasn't the foreign secretaries, it'll have been the diplomats behind the scenes. She is angry with the government - she may stay angry she may not, but she's entitled to her feelings. The debt could have been paid a long time ago and it wasn't. She's angry about that too.

bookworm14 · 21/03/2022 16:46

Just when I thought I had plumbed the depths of unpleasantness on Mumsnet, a new low appears.

TypicaIMe · 21/03/2022 16:46

I'm not victim blaming but

Ew.

sqirrelfriends · 21/03/2022 16:48

I'm in awe of her, she's amazing.

I know if I had spent 6 years as a hostage I wouldn't be quite as calm as she is coming across.

SueSaid · 21/03/2022 16:51

'The debt could have been paid a long time ago and it wasn't'

This has been all over the news recently explaining it couldn't because of sanctions.

DoubleShotEspresso · 21/03/2022 16:52

I was so compelled by the sheer dignity, grace and calm she showed just a couple of days after landing.

Unimaginable adjustment for the entire family right now and still she ensured not only that her points were eloquentLy made, but that she considered and included those "whose names we do not even know".

I too wonder perhaps what might be her path now, she's clearly aware of the value of the platform she's got and the power that might deliver longterm.

And for those who think she's "not grateful enough" seriously? have a word with yourselves.

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