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Oh, Nazanin. How dignified you are.

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AnyFucker · 21/03/2022 13:12

Just seen a clip of the press conference she gave. How generous of her to share it with the daughter of a man still trapped in Iran.

How composed and articulate she is. Honestly, with so many fucking idiots in power, how do we keep the faith in the face of what happened to Nazanin.

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RealHousewifeOfPontypandy · 21/03/2022 15:08

I missed the press conference - any idea where I can watch it?

ScrambledSmegs · 21/03/2022 15:09

She is so dignified and articulate. And restrained! My god she was screwed over by BJ.

ScrambledSmegs · 21/03/2022 15:11

It's only because we want/need oil from Iran that the debt was finally acknowledged. That's why the hostages (2 out of 3) have been released.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 21/03/2022 15:11

She spoke so eloquently and calmly. I thought she sidestepped some of the more intrusive questions graciously. Of course she doesn't want to expand on her experiences in prison yet, she's still processing her physical freedom

Horcruxe · 21/03/2022 15:11

Wheres the best place to watch this.
Everywhere I check there is only very short clips

Tonya345 · 21/03/2022 15:11

I have wholehearted admiration for her. With what she's been through, I would have been a total write off by now.
I wish her every happiness in her life going forward.

Mumdiva99 · 21/03/2022 15:13

I too would like to watch he whole thing. If anyone is able please share a link.

I need to go find the tissues from those short clips. She is an amazing lady.

ScrambledSmegs · 21/03/2022 15:14

@Horcruxe

Wheres the best place to watch this. Everywhere I check there is only very short clips
I watched ITV on YouTube
Horcruxe · 21/03/2022 15:15

Thanks

emuloc · 21/03/2022 15:15

@JaniieJones

A bit of gratitude for the foreign secretaries who worked tirelessly to secure her freedom and some condemnation of the Iranian govt who were actually responsible would have been nice.
She does not have much to thank them for.
Saucery · 21/03/2022 15:17

Still censoring Life Of Brian in this day and age? How charmingly retro of you, MNHQ Grin

C8H10N4O2 · 21/03/2022 15:28

However, if I had been detained in Iran, a country known for taking political hostages I would perhaps have used the briefing as an oppotunity to publicly thank the those including the FS who had secured my release

I don't think any of us could possibly say how we would react to 6 yrs of being detained in a hostile country, often in isolation, often in appalling conditions, never knowing if we would see our child again, losing the chance for that wanted second child, being denied medical treatment etc.

But if you could pop off for 6 yrs in isolation and come back and let us know I'd be willing to live with that.

liliainterfrutices · 21/03/2022 15:30

Gratitude to the foreign secretaries who left her in jail for six years until we paid our debt when we needed oil??

Bloody hell! Talk about a coldhearted, unreasonable response to this family.

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SueSaid · 21/03/2022 15:34

'I don't think any of us could possibly say how we would react to 6 yrs of being detained in a hostile country, often in isolation, often in appalling conditions'

She's been under house arrest recently at her parents I believe. I don't think we're talking Midnight Express here though of course being detained by a foreign regime must have been terrifying and of being separated from her dd and dh would have been traumatic.

I don't think we have to experience it to have an opinion on the press conference do we? Again, the villain here was the Iranian regime. Not the 6 foreign secretaries who were on her side. The blame lies with Iran.

Horcruxe · 21/03/2022 15:46

I think deep down she is very angry but keeping composed for her family and daughter.

Right now it's probably still not fully registered that she truly is free.

Yeahthat · 21/03/2022 15:48

@Tabitha005

Such grace in the face of unforgivable, monumental incompetency by successive Home Secretaries and the British Government overall.
Where's the incompetency?

If you choose to go to a country like Iran, North Korea etc - particularly using dual nationality (therefore a subject of theirs) - then you take your life in your own hands.

The government can't fix every bad decision someone makes.

pollyannaperspective · 21/03/2022 15:54

It was 5 Foreign Secretaries and one of them got her sentence extended through poor grasp of his own Foreign Office brief.

I am in awe of your personal foresight JaniieJones as to how you would feel in spite of never actually experiencing, as reported: 6 years in prison or on house arrest, 6 years without daily contact with your child from the age of 2 to 8 the last 3 with only screen based contact, initial years spent in solitary confinement, debilitating health, mental health concerns to the point of suicide, several times when release and return was indicated then withdrawn, just some of Nazanin's experience.
You clearly have better manners than me.

SueSaid · 21/03/2022 15:57

'If you choose to go to a country like Iran, North Korea etc - particularly using dual nationality (therefore a subject of theirs) - then you take your life in your own hands.The government can't fix every bad decision someone makes.'

Exactly. A terrifying ordeal, awful for everyone involved but unless she's projecting or something why focus on the amount of foreign secretaries involved in securing her release?! It was the regime's fault. They detained her. Fine she maybe can't publicly slag them off but no need to tut and eye roll at Liz Truss either.

Papayamya · 21/03/2022 16:00

The debt hadn't been paid due to sanctions, it's right that the money was paid but negotiated to be ring-fenced for certain purposes, I agree must have been bloody horrific for her, but I think some people think it could have been as simple as here you go- £400 million for the release of 2 people that undermines sanctions we have in place for good reason.

pollyannaperspective · 21/03/2022 16:05

Perhaps educate yourself on the details of the whole situation, starting with the original failing by the UK that gave rise to the debt the UK owed to Iran - that's the 1970s.
The UK is not so 'squeaky clean' in all this. Yes, Iran has, and continues to, acted despicably concerning dual national citizens. Nazanin was one of the first in being taken prisoner at the end of a trip home to visit her family - something she had done a number of times. Perhaps, as well as being better mannered than her JaniieJones and Yeahthat you both have the ability to predict the future in suggesting that she should have known that Iran was planning on introducing this new 'tactic'.

Yeahthat · 21/03/2022 16:06

@Papayamya

Yes it's an extraordinary level of entitlement. "I'm going to go to an authoritarian country with draconian laws, which recently imprisoned people involved in similar programmes as I am for 11 years. I'll go there using my dual nationality of that country therefore being seen as a subject of theirs. It will then be up to the British government to pay £400 million to fix that mistake for me if anything goes wrong."

ShirleyPhallus · 21/03/2022 16:07

She’s fab, I can absolutely see a future for her as a motivational speaker

Yeahthat · 21/03/2022 16:09

@pollyannaperspective

Iran arrested her. I'd back the British government in not paying any debts to their regime.

I couldn't predict what the Iranian regime does next, nor could I predict what North Korea or Russia might do if I chose to go there. For that reason, I wouldn't go. If I did, it would be up to me to deal with the consequences of my decisions.

Cakemonger · 21/03/2022 16:12

She is amazing