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Being curious how many of you are thinking to vote Labour in May election just as a revenge to the superiority that carried by Tory?

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Return2thebasic · 13/03/2022 12:42

I haven't done my research yet, so can't say certainly I'd do it. But they're lots of things we are not happy with the local council. Usually may not warrant a change of vote (probably just not bother to vote). But the whole partygate thing made me almost determined to vote Labour in May.

Tory didn't care what the public feel or think, carrying on to find excuses for their corrupted government. And that guy, that guy who's born as a natural lier, I can't even bear to hear his voice anymore. Something needs to be done, when their party refuse to change or at least show the public their remorse. I feel I need to do something.

How many of you feel the same?

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Clymene · 14/03/2022 07:00

@RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie

I see nobody has managed to tell us how the Tories define women. It's like everyone has jumped on an anti-Labour bandwagon whilst completely failing to notice the bus with, 'We are corrupt, lying twats who want to sell the NHS and keep lining out own pockets and have no bloody idea what a woman is unless we want to shag her' written all over it.
You seem to have misunderstood. Very few women on this thread have said they're voting Tory. They're just not voting labour.

Starmer has made it very clear he doesn't want my vote.

AlternativeGirl · 14/03/2022 07:06

[quote Gilead]@Soapboxqueen. I am currently in hospital. Will be going home with a care package. Due to previous DV I have asked and been given a guarantee that all my carers will be women.
I also feel that perhaps it’s an argument that could be had after we’ve got rid of the Tories.[/quote]
The problem with this is that, while 'people with penises' are recgonised as women, if that's what they say they are, then you could still be sent a male carer and told it's a woman. And there's nothing you can do about it.

So, no, I won't vote Labour while they can't say what a woman is either. Which also leaves me politically homeless.

bellinisurge · 14/03/2022 07:10

@RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie no intention to vote Tory. Won't vote Labour while they continue with this idiotic nonsense that has real life negative consequences for women.

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GoodnessTruthBeauty · 14/03/2022 07:31

How can I vote for Labour? Apparently I don't exist as a material reality so that's clearly impossible.

AlexaShutUp · 14/03/2022 07:31

This thread is so depressing.

I share the frustration around Labour not knowing what a woman is, but I am astonished at the idea that women will be better off under the Tories. It seems that we are all doomed.

Enzbear · 14/03/2022 07:48

I used to vote labour but they don't represent me or Dh anymore. Neither do the Tories. Not sure what the others offer yet but I am not voting for the sake of it anymore.

Hippolyte · 14/03/2022 07:50

I will vote Labour on the basis that the alternative comprises Boris Yeltsin and Ugly (behaviour, her looks irrelevant!) Patel. Their approach to refugees has been absolutely appalling and I haven't forgiven Partygate! For context I have never voted Labour before but as the Lib Dems appear to longer exist it's the only option!!

ufucoffee · 14/03/2022 07:52

I live in a place where Labour will always get in. I'm a floating voter but I won't vote for any party who tells me that a man can be a woman.

TebayOrNotTebay · 14/03/2022 07:57

I’ll vote for whoever has the best chance of beating the tories - probably labour.

Clymene · 14/03/2022 08:00

@AlexaShutUp

This thread is so depressing.

I share the frustration around Labour not knowing what a woman is, but I am astonished at the idea that women will be better off under the Tories. It seems that we are all doomed.

I don't think we are better off. It's breaking my heart that I'm being so badly let down by the party I've voted for my whole adult life.

Voting labour right now absolutely feels like being a turkey voting for Christmas.

My mum goes to a ladies swimming class. She's nearly 90. Two weeks ago, a man dressed in a swimsuit strode into the women's changing room through a group of naked elderly ladies and walked into the shower. I cannot tell you how upset she and her friends were.

They complained and he has been told he is not to use their changing room. Under labour led by keir starmer, they would have no right to be able to get changed out of their swimming costumes without men there.

And that is the hill I'm prepared to die on.

sashh · 14/03/2022 08:31

@Return2thebasic

Ah, I haven't read news (trying to avoid for my own mental health) lately. Anything flared up about the trans thing wit labour? Huh, I would have to do the research before my vote!

Shame, I really can't stand that lier (those liers) in power anymore. No one can replace them?! Sad

Starmer: No one should say only a woman has a cervix
lakeswimmer · 14/03/2022 08:32

Those outraged by the posters saying they won't vote Labour are missing the point. For the most part, they're not saying they think the Tories are better. They're saying that right now, Labour doesn't deserve their vote.

FWIW I've never voted either Tory or Labour and Labour's current leadership won't make me start doing so. Different people have different priorities. Personally I really don't care if BJ went to a lockdown party. It's not an issue for me. However I respect the views of those that feel differently.

Sadly many people on the "left" have very little tolerance for people with different opinions to them.

@Clymene I'm so sorry that your Mum and her friends had that experience.

Iwishihadariver · 14/03/2022 08:36

Why is anyone so confident that Labour will win a national election? They may make some (protest) gains in the local elections alongside lib dems & greens but history suggests the country prefers a tory government warts & all.

If you are waiting for labour to get into power before campaigning for women's rights you will be too late.

Sooverthemill · 14/03/2022 08:42

I always vote Labour. I'm a member so it's kind of obvious. I would never and have never voted any other way

KittenKong · 14/03/2022 08:44

Labour has changed so much though - it’s not the party of my childhood (dad was on the local steering committee) or of my student days, or of 20, 10 years ago. I don’t recognise it - the attacks on women, the wilful refusal to protect women who speak up.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 14/03/2022 08:47

Absolutely not voting Labour. Starmer saw to that.
"Woman" is not a feeling in a man's head.

Clymene · 14/03/2022 08:59

Thank you @lakeswimmer.

Buzzinwithbez · 14/03/2022 09:37

@MyKingdomforaNameChange

I will consider voting Labour when they can tell me what a woman is.
This and I've been disappointed by labour in general over the last two years.

I won't be voting Tory though.

SamphiretheStickerist · 14/03/2022 09:47

@TooBigForMyBoots

Sorry if it's been covered, but have the WEP decided what a woman is yet? (I can't believe I just typed that, but here we are).

Has PM Johnson decided? If this is such an important question, how come no one has asked him?Hmm

Well, let me see. He was asked and he blustered.

He blustered that "everybody needs to be treated with dignity and respect"

He further blustered "What I think about this is biology is very important..."

And then went on "But we have a system now in our country for many many years in which people can change gender.

"We help them to do that and what I absolutely passionately believe, and I fought for this for a long time, is everybody should be treated with dignity and respect."

When pressed about only women having cervixes he blustered and laughed and refused to answer beyonf "Biology is important"

Which is pretty much what most GC women here have said. Just with added Boris Bluster.

Starmer however...

SamphiretheStickerist · 14/03/2022 09:49

I meant to add - Boris had biology, sex and gender separated in his head and did not mangle them in his speech.

He is correct, we do allow gender changes, socially and in law. Upholding that is important and should not be ridiculed. Trans people are deserving of as much dignity and respect as anyone else.

But biology is important, sex cannot be changed.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/03/2022 09:55

@SamphiretheStickerist, when did that happen and who was he talking to?

moonbedazzled · 14/03/2022 10:03

@TooBigForMyBoots. I think it was an interview on GB news.

SamphiretheStickerist · 14/03/2022 10:04

Let me see, most of the big newspapers carried it. Many with headlines that weren't quite supported by the actual text

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1501654/Boris-Johnson-GB-News-latest-Conservative-Party-speech-woke-cancel-culture-woman-cervix-vn

Paul Embry was beside himself angry about it. Apparently he is an important social commentator!

There were a few threads here about it at the time. Which is why I remembered it.

SamphiretheStickerist · 14/03/2022 10:04

[quote moonbedazzled]@TooBigForMyBoots. I think it was an interview on GB news.[/quote]
Yes! It was, wasn't it! Thanks. I hadn't tracked back quite that far!