Being curious how many of you are thinking to vote Labour in May election just as a revenge to the superiority that carried by Tory?

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I haven't done my research yet, so can't say certainly I'd do it. But they're lots of things we are not happy with the local council. Usually may not warrant a change of vote (probably just not bother to vote). But the whole partygate thing made me almost determined to vote Labour in May.

Tory didn't care what the public feel or think, carrying on to find excuses for their corrupted government. And that guy, that guy who's born as a natural lier, I can't even bear to hear his voice anymore. Something needs to be done, when their party refuse to change or at least show the public their remorse. I feel I need to do something.

How many of you feel the same?

Several senior Labour MPs, including Lisa Nandy, Angela Rayner & Dawn Butler, told us Labour doesn’t want our vote. So I’m going to respect their wishes.

I can't vote for Labour anymore as I am a woman and they don't know what that is or recognise my kind - so how can they possibly govern for me?

Yes. We have to get Boris and his corrupt cronies out of office

Several senior Labour MPs, including Lisa Nandy, Angela Rayner & Dawn Butler, told us Labour doesn’t want our vote. So I’m going to respect their wishes

Didnt jo swinson say something similar 🤔

People were already pissed about student loans and a potential brexit vote rerun…her comments were just the icing on the cake

@EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn

Several senior Labour MPs, including Lisa Nandy, Angela Rayner & Dawn Butler, told us Labour doesn’t want our vote. So I’m going to respect their wishes.

Yep. The purity party don't want terf votes. Only bekind ones. So I'll also be complying.

I will vote Labour. No surprise .

I don't ever vote based on one issue. I find that short sighted. I vote based on a basket of issues like ecenomics, stance on various social issues like a party's plans for education and NHS.

If I feel strongly about one single issue, I would join a pressure group.

@user1471453601

I will vote Labour. No surprise .

I don't ever vote based on one issue. I find that short sighted. I vote based on a basket of issues like ecenomics, stance on various social issues like a party's plans for education and NHS.

If I feel strongly about one single issue, I would join a pressure group.

I don’t think it’s shortsighted as it could affect even our dds as they grow up.

Removing women’s rights has long term implications.

@Gilead

It’s a shame that those of you not voting Labour over Trans issues are prepared to let the elderly and disabled die due to Tories lack of care.

Elderly and disabled women are even more vulnerable wrt to the legal definition of woman.

I am both elderly and disabled @EmmaH2022. My dd is young and disabled. I feel strongly that this would be a discussion better had after an election, thereby giving those of us needing extra help a fighting chance.

@user1471453601

I will vote Labour. No surprise .

I don't ever vote based on one issue. I find that short sighted. I vote based on a basket of issues like ecenomics, stance on various social issues like a party's plans for education and NHS.

If I feel strongly about one single issue, I would join a pressure group.

It not about being short sighted it's about politicians being able to speak the truth without being cowed by pressure groups. If a whole range of senior politicians in any party are unable to state biological fact then they aren't fit for the job. I don't care what colour rosette they wear.

After the election hasn't helped Scottish women. The SNP are forcing Self ID through, ignoring all criticism and reneging on promises to consult with women's groups.

After the election is too late.

Removing women’s rights has long term implications.

What makes you think the Tory party aren't removing women's rights already @MarshaBradyo? Haven't you heard of Penny Mordaunt? Or Crispin Blunt? Or the fact that the current trans shit show was started and is maintained by the Conservative party? If the answer to the question What is a woman? is so important, how come no one has asked the PM?

Labour certainly won’t be getting my vote!

@Gilead

I am both elderly and disabled *@EmmaH2022. My dd is young and disabled. I feel strongly that this would be a discussion better had after* an election, thereby giving those of us needing extra help a fighting chance.

But if you wait til after the election, won't they just say, hey we got elected on not saying what a woman is so why do we want to discuss anything with you?

@orinocosfavoritecake

Gender Critical does seem to be cofe for right wing, so it’s not surprising to see it hauled out as an excuse to let the Tories in again and who gives a fuck that they’ll slash and burn the welfare state some more.

What’s less clear is whether it’s people trending rightwards anyway using GC as a figleaf, or whether the GC ideological groupthink is driving people to the right.

Before someone jumps in saying that GC isn’t rightwing - this is the company you’re in:

US Republican party ‘ Texas Gov. Greg Abbott is calling on “licensed professionals” and “members of the general public” to report the parents of transgender minors to state authorities if it appears the minors are receiving gender-affirming medical care.’;

Vladimir Putin ‘If someone thinks that women and men are the same thing, then be my guest. But there is common sense.’

Yes there are some dreadful people who believe in the realities of the biological sexes, after all, how would people know who to oppress if they didn’t know which ones were the women and girls. But you seem to be on the side of putting male rapists in womens prisons. Of denying raped women and girls the chance to heal with a guarantee of single sex councillors, you’d deny women and children fleeing domestic safety refuge away from men by making refuges mixed sex. You’d deny appropriate therapy to the thousands of body dysmorphic children that we have these days in case they realised they weren’t actually trans, but were just trying to make sense of autism or same sex attraction or fleeing the horrors of being a woman in an increasingly misogynistic society. You’re on the side of Katie Dolatowski and Karen White and Jessica Yaniv and the —wo—men exposing their penises in WiSpa, Middlesbrough and Hanley, the —wo—man downloading porn from her hospital bed in the woman's ward in Blackpool. You’re in favour of all the times This Never Happens when it happens over and over again.

@Gilead

I am both elderly and disabled *@EmmaH2022. My dd is young and disabled. I feel strongly that this would be a discussion better had after* an election, thereby giving those of us needing extra help a fighting chance.

Fair enough, I respect that I just feel that if they are willing to twist this, they're not worth believing in for anything else.

Sorry if it's been covered, but have the WEP decided what a woman is yet? (I can't believe I just typed that, but here we are).

Not sure how I’ll vote. But it definitely won’t be labour.

Sorry if it's been covered, but have the WEP decided what a woman is yet? (I can't believe I just typed that, but here we are).

Has PM Johnson decided? If this is such an important question, how come no one has asked him?

@TooBigForMyBoots

Sorry if it's been covered, but have the WEP decided what a woman is yet? (I can't believe I just typed that, but here we are).

Has PM Johnson decided? If this is such an important question, how come no one has asked him?

Well now, that would not align with the pro-Conservative narrative would it 🤔

Absolutely I'll vote Labour.

I'm not impressed with the "women have penises" attitude but I'm not a one policy voter and the Tories disgust me.

**MyKingdomforaNameChange

I will consider voting Labour when they can tell me what a woman is.**

This

Oh ffs!

The TWAW thing is not just labour and it isn't NOT a Tory thing either

If you're voting based on that there isn't a single party you CAN vote for at the moment not one!

And even with that issue there are lots of other issues to consider too, voting on one issue is daft

Fwiw I also hate the TWAW crap too, but given they're all on that bloody bandwagon at the moment we need to look at other matters too

Op - genuine question but feel free not to answer what are your personal circumstances generally? Are you independently wealthy? Do you or your family use and/or believe in a welfare state?

@ParkheadParadise same here.

The tories are doing a TERRIBLE job corrupt incompetent arses that they are!

But then that's ALWAYS what the tories are like so voting them in expecting different is pointless

Why would any intelligent woman vote for a party that despises them and cares nothing for their dignity and safety?

This also applies to tories - even more so! And it's ALWAYS been true of tories

@Tryingtokeepgoing their policies are on their website but I agree very poorly laid out and not communicated in other media well at all. Now the msm have always been anti labour but they really ought to be making MUCH better use of sm

The thought of what Labour would do to women's and girls rights and services scares me more than anything Tory have done.

And the tories being in charge WHILE the TWAW stuff has been on the rise and officially sanctioned and their terrible record on vawg doesn't scare you? It does me!

The whole trans thing is a red herring

Totally agree!

Anyone thinking the Tories are going to be the defenders of women and our rights is living in cloud cuckoo land.

This with bells on!

wep are fully on twaw bandwagon too I'm afraid

I would, and I don't care how they define a man or a woman as it has so little effect on our lives.

I see nobody has managed to tell us how the Tories define women. It's like everyone has jumped on an anti-Labour bandwagon whilst completely failing to notice the bus with, 'We are corrupt, lying twats who want to sell the NHS and keep lining out own pockets and have no bloody idea what a woman is unless we want to shag her' written all over it.