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Govt gives up on covid catch-up for kids and hopes you don't notice

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noblegiraffe · 12/03/2022 12:35

After the guy they specifically hired to come up with a covid catch-up plan for children resigned when the government said they weren't willing to spend the amount of money needed (£15 billion) and instead only about £3 billion, they said that the focus of the catch-up would be tutoring.

They then gave the tutoring contract to a Dutch HR firm because they bid the lowest (much better bids from experienced companies were rejected). This has turned into a slow-motion car crash where schools couldn't access tutors, websites didn't work, tutors couldn't be found.

The govt have now abandoned that and said that the tutoring money (£65 million, not billions) will be given directly to schools to source and fund their own tutors instead.

However, at the same time, targets have been dropped or watered down:

Tutors used to have to be graduates or qualified teachers. Now they merely need A-levels.

Group sizes were max 3, this is now max 6 pupils.

A requirement that 65% of targeted pupils were disadvantaged pupils has been ditched.

A thread on MN about whether children were recovering education-wise discussed how academically children seem to be ok, but socially and emotionally are still affected. (As this is MN, children of MNettters are more likely to be advantaged where the data shows that it's disadvantaged children most hit educationally, so they may have a false impression of the widespread educational impact.) However, as the sole govt focus was on educational catch-up (which has now basically fizzled out), there is no extra support for helping children emotionally or socially beyond that which schools can cobble together themselves with their limited resources. That's why the advisor resigned - he wanted a full package of support for children, physically, socially and educationally, and the lack of that is now becoming obvious.

In addition, CAMHS has basically collapsed, so there is very little professional mental health support available for children, and long, long waiting lists for those who meet the incredibly high threshold for referral.

Schools have just gone through an extremely difficult term, covid-wise. There has been massive staff and pupil absence. Far from being places of covid catch-up, many schools have struggled to staff the basic timetable, and pupils have had lack of consistency with supply staff. Exam classes have been left without specialist teaching. Despite schools now being provided with funding for tutoring, the idea that in maths we could actually find any tutors is challenging. We did have some timetabled intervention, but those teachers had to be redeployed to actual teaching because of staff absence.

Why aren't the government worried that they'll get found out?

Who is measuring the social and emotional well-being of children in a way that will actually have an impact on government policy? Parents seem remarkably reluctant to hold the government to account for their failings here.

What about exam results? Well, exam grades are decided in advance by the government. We know for a fact that pupils sitting GCSEs and A-levels this summer will come out with good results overall, because this has already been decided, regardless of their actual performance in the exams. So the public will see the exam results and figure that everything must be ok in schools because the kids are doing well in their exams. It's not ok, and don't be fooled.

This government still don't give a shit about your kids, or their education.

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CallmeHendricks · 14/03/2022 17:02

Hear hear, @noblegiraffe.
Excellent post.

MarshaBradyo · 14/03/2022 17:10

Well on the opposite side I got huge amounts of attacks, many from posters on this thread.

I remember the first poster, I was a fairly innocuous poster until then, and the vitriol was incredible. It continued for nearly a year from that (unhinged) poster.

And yes telling people to stop ‘banging on’ or whatever insult is shutting down conversation, no matter how many threads you start. If the aim is to stop other voices posting you are aiming for an aggressive echo chamber.

People may feel justified in behaving as they did but I separated out my schools and rl staff from mn as the ridicule and aggression was off the scale and I actually like and appreciate staff at my dc’ schools.

Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 17:17

I don’t really understand why you do it @noblegiraffe, it’s your call of course.

But some will disagree and you become pretty aggressive when this happens tbh. That’s why the threads go the way they do.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

CallmeHendricks · 14/03/2022 17:19

Well, @MarshaBradyo, we can most of us claim the same thing.
Hard to verify without specifics, though, but I can certainly vouch for @noblegiraffe being hammered on here.

CallmeHendricks · 14/03/2022 17:20

"I don’t really understand why you do it @noblegiraffe, it’s your call of course."

She's explained very clearly why she does it.

Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 17:22

And precisely nothing has changed.

Either posters agree, so wouldn’t vote Tory anyway, or they don’t, in which case insults and aggression are probably not really likely to change their mind.

MarshaBradyo · 14/03/2022 17:22

@CallmeHendricks

Well, *@MarshaBradyo*, we can most of us claim the same thing. Hard to verify without specifics, though, but I can certainly vouch for *@noblegiraffe* being hammered on here.
Sure. And many on this thread tried very hard to stop opposing views through ridicule and aggression.

I guess it’s hard to see when you’re part of it.

I had no issue with people debating points I made btw, but it was very rarely that.

noblegiraffe · 14/03/2022 17:24

You are remarkably apathetic about things, Cherry.

If parents don't know what's going on in schools, then they need telling.

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CallmeHendricks · 14/03/2022 17:26

Ridicule and aggression?
How about backing up these assertions with some evidence?

Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 17:32

If parents don't know what's going on in schools, then they need telling

I think the first problem with this is that it assumes all schools are the same. They aren’t. Some (notably in London) are fine for funding, thank you very much.

Others may not be fine for funding but make such insane decisions with the money they have that I don’t really see handing them more money as the automatic answer to anything. Years ago (as HOD) we were having a horrendous time with year 8s, and as a core subject, problems down the line were inevitable. I argued futilely we needed another teacher to spread the issues around. No new teacher was forthcoming, but plenty of money was spent painting the toilets rainbow colours ( to show we were LGBTQ friendly, apparently), bringing in dubious mental health experts, a set of iPads - I know there is arguably an educational benefit to that last one but nothing close to improving literacy by good classroom teaching. We had money. We had sponsors and funding. But we were shit at spending it. I’ve noticed that is a theme in schools.

And it also begs the question about what parents can actually do. Sure, you can write to your MP, but as I’ve said, they can’t undo the last two years.

But as I’ve said, and I’m not trying to be a dick here, I do think the way the message is delivered is problematic. It causes divisions and gets peoples backs up.

CallmeHendricks · 14/03/2022 17:33

"I do think the way the message is delivered is problematic."
Well, that's certainly a two-way street.

Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 17:35

That’s a theme on this thread, that both ‘sides’ if you like have felt insulted, harassed, hounded and belittled by the other, which is why I don’t think the threads add anything.

BigBobBoots · 14/03/2022 17:35

Why are some people SO resistant to discussing the reality in schools and listening to people who actually work in them?
Fair question. So many squirrels on this thread.
As someone who taught throughout lockdown and is now working as a tutor for the NTP I'd like to contribute.
Working with small groups for 15 hours is wonderful- the children are engaged and I can tailor the learning to their needs, so they all make some progress. But it's a drop in the ocean - I can't teach all the children, only those who have been 'put on the list' - my time is rationed by budgets. And I can't take any child for longer than the allotted 15 hours. That isn't enough to close the gap in most cases, as the deficit pre dates Covid - children were already behind before school closures, and as the reasons that they were behind then haven't been addressed, the issues are ongoing.
Many of the children I tutor have undiagnosed SEN - they need long term support, preferably from SEN specialists (which I am not, though working on it). A few hours of extra help in 13 years of education just ticks someone's box somewhere.
If the DforE really cared about catch up this year they would have cancelled SATS - at least the Y2 ones. The amount of learning time being lost to tests, assessment and practice papers is heartbreaking and so frustrating to see.
As ever Noble you've hit the nail on the head.
For many it's so much easier to blame the situation on the teachers.

Onionpatch · 14/03/2022 17:38

I cant see any points to debate with. Noone has put forward anything to show the government does care about children or a catch up investment isnt needed.

BigBobBoots · 14/03/2022 17:39

Some (notably in London) are fine for funding, thank you very much.

Which schools are these? I'd love to work in a school that's fine for funding - it would be wonderful to have the resources to adequately address pupil need - so please share these examples.
I've worked in a variety of London schools over the last 6 years and I've only seen funding get leaner. Schools w MC intake were more able to weather the cuts to begin with, but no longer. It's dire across the board.

MarshaBradyo · 14/03/2022 17:42

@CallmeHendricks

Ridicule and aggression? How about backing up these assertions with some evidence?
Not going to go back over old threads but here’s another poster, if you were unaware (or claim to be) you were likely part of it.

We were insulted, harassed off the site in a number of instances, had shit dragged across thread after thread

I’ve been on mn for a long time and these threads always go the same way with a group hounding a few that have opposing views.

Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 17:46

I think what’s being argued against by some is that no amount of ‘catch up’ will replace the last two years.

I'm afraid I also think a certain amount - not all, but some at least - of the doom-mongering is motivated by self-interest.

Finally, I don’t expect the government to give a shit about my kids, tbh. I don’t see that as their job to ‘care’ about them. Alert to their needs, yes, but what I’m looking for in a government is the courage to make difficult decisions when needed, be pragmatic and be hard headed when called for.

That does not apply to our current government, incidentally. But do they have any real opposition? No, they do not. So until that happens, any discussion really is pointless.

MarshaBradyo · 14/03/2022 17:50

I think what’s being argued against by some is that no amount of ‘catch up’ will replace the last two years.

I'm afraid I also think a certain amount - not all, but some at least - of the doom-mongering is motivated by self-interest.

I agree with these points. We would have been better to stop the damage by keeping dc in school longer. And part of that was realising the harm v risks for each age group.

FrippEnos · 14/03/2022 17:52

MarshaBradyo
Well on the opposite side I got huge amounts of attacks,

As did I and other teachers

many from posters on this thread.

I could say whether who the posters were as many don't have the courage to keep the same name

I left MN for a while but came back as I wasn't going to be chased out of a site that I liked due to bullies,

Many teachers just left, and that is a sad thing for MN as parents (old, new and not yet on the site) have lost a fantastic free resource.

noblegiraffe · 14/03/2022 17:53

I'm afraid I also think a certain amount - not all, but some at least - of the doom-mongering is motivated by self-interest.

Well yes, a better education system for the kids I teach, and my own kids, would be great.

Is that not in your interest too? A teacher who has seemingly given up on any sort of better world for the kids they teach?

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Onionpatch · 14/03/2022 17:55

Aah - well I disagree that no amount of catch up would help - particularly for the younger children. But i think it would need to be quite radical and long lasting and probably teacher led not politician led.

I feel sad we all feel so hopeless that noone can influence party policy if they are aware of issues of significant national interest.

Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 17:57

I do the best I can with what I have, Giraffe, but there are certain things that are out of my hands.

This has been asked before; it is always well, what can I do about it? and it is always write to your MP and vote a certain way.

And then what?

Nothing, really. All we can do is what we can with what we have. I can’t replace the last two years for the children I teach. And I can’t give back missed proms and plays and residential trips and parties and so on. I do acknowledge what has been lost, though.

MarshaBradyo · 14/03/2022 17:57

@Onionpatch

Aah - well I disagree that no amount of catch up would help - particularly for the younger children. But i think it would need to be quite radical and long lasting and probably teacher led not politician led.

I feel sad we all feel so hopeless that noone can influence party policy if they are aware of issues of significant national interest.

I don’t mind if there’s catch up

But I’m frustrated we allowed it to get to this stage, knowing the damage.

Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 17:58

I feel sad we all feel so hopeless that noone can influence party policy if they are aware of issues of significant national interest

Not when it’s just a meaningless rocking horse winner chant of ‘there must be more money.’

noblegiraffe · 14/03/2022 18:01

I feel sad we all feel so hopeless that noone can influence party policy if they are aware of issues of significant national interest.

And saying therefore it's pointless even making people aware of these issues.

Education policy went towards Theresa May losing her majority. I'm positive that people can, and will give a shit again.

But they need to know.

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