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Govt gives up on covid catch-up for kids and hopes you don't notice

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noblegiraffe · 12/03/2022 12:35

After the guy they specifically hired to come up with a covid catch-up plan for children resigned when the government said they weren't willing to spend the amount of money needed (£15 billion) and instead only about £3 billion, they said that the focus of the catch-up would be tutoring.

They then gave the tutoring contract to a Dutch HR firm because they bid the lowest (much better bids from experienced companies were rejected). This has turned into a slow-motion car crash where schools couldn't access tutors, websites didn't work, tutors couldn't be found.

The govt have now abandoned that and said that the tutoring money (£65 million, not billions) will be given directly to schools to source and fund their own tutors instead.

However, at the same time, targets have been dropped or watered down:

Tutors used to have to be graduates or qualified teachers. Now they merely need A-levels.

Group sizes were max 3, this is now max 6 pupils.

A requirement that 65% of targeted pupils were disadvantaged pupils has been ditched.

A thread on MN about whether children were recovering education-wise discussed how academically children seem to be ok, but socially and emotionally are still affected. (As this is MN, children of MNettters are more likely to be advantaged where the data shows that it's disadvantaged children most hit educationally, so they may have a false impression of the widespread educational impact.) However, as the sole govt focus was on educational catch-up (which has now basically fizzled out), there is no extra support for helping children emotionally or socially beyond that which schools can cobble together themselves with their limited resources. That's why the advisor resigned - he wanted a full package of support for children, physically, socially and educationally, and the lack of that is now becoming obvious.

In addition, CAMHS has basically collapsed, so there is very little professional mental health support available for children, and long, long waiting lists for those who meet the incredibly high threshold for referral.

Schools have just gone through an extremely difficult term, covid-wise. There has been massive staff and pupil absence. Far from being places of covid catch-up, many schools have struggled to staff the basic timetable, and pupils have had lack of consistency with supply staff. Exam classes have been left without specialist teaching. Despite schools now being provided with funding for tutoring, the idea that in maths we could actually find any tutors is challenging. We did have some timetabled intervention, but those teachers had to be redeployed to actual teaching because of staff absence.

Why aren't the government worried that they'll get found out?

Who is measuring the social and emotional well-being of children in a way that will actually have an impact on government policy? Parents seem remarkably reluctant to hold the government to account for their failings here.

What about exam results? Well, exam grades are decided in advance by the government. We know for a fact that pupils sitting GCSEs and A-levels this summer will come out with good results overall, because this has already been decided, regardless of their actual performance in the exams. So the public will see the exam results and figure that everything must be ok in schools because the kids are doing well in their exams. It's not ok, and don't be fooled.

This government still don't give a shit about your kids, or their education.

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FrippEnos · 14/03/2022 19:30

Cherrycrush
Of course and that’s why I go back to my point that these threads help no one. Both sides feel aggrieved, insulted, not listened to, mocked and hounded.

There is nothing wrong with the question that noblegiraffe is asking, its the usual few that are pilling on the derail the thread.

FrippEnos · 14/03/2022 19:32

MarshaBradyo

Trying to stop me posting and attacking as you do.

Who is trying to stop you posting? no-one has asked you to stop.
However several of us have a differing opinion to you, which you are interpreting as trying to stop you from posting,

What you seem to have a problem with is people disagreeing with your opinion.

CallmeHendricks · 14/03/2022 19:33

"Trying to stop me posting and attacking as you do."
Where have I tried to stop you posting? Or attacked you?

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

noblegiraffe · 14/03/2022 19:33

🎶 it's all about me baby 🎶

I've had loads of threads where a bunch of people with a grudge haven't shown up and deliberately derailed them. I'm not sure how a bunch of people with a grudge derailing this thread means I'm the problem.

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MarshaBradyo · 14/03/2022 19:35

@FrippEnos

MarshaBradyo

Trying to stop me posting and attacking as you do.

Who is trying to stop you posting? no-one has asked you to stop.
However several of us have a differing opinion to you, which you are interpreting as trying to stop you from posting,

What you seem to have a problem with is people disagreeing with your opinion.

Did you read the rest of that post Confused

At no point have I hounded teachers off this board Hmm

I have stated my views - that as a society we should have prioritised children more. That we made mistakes with closing schools for so long and caused damage that outweighed the risk the group faced.

I have been consistent in that view. Any posts re teachers at my dc’ schools have been positive.

Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 19:35

I do have a bit of a grudge about being attacked for having the tenacity for going on maternity leave around the time things were difficult in schools, but that’s not my concern here.

I think that if you want people to agree with you, not insulting them would be a good start.

noblegiraffe · 14/03/2022 19:36

🎶 still all about me baby 🎶

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toomuchlaundry · 14/03/2022 19:37

The Government said they had to close schools at one point as they were a vector for the virus. Why was that the teachers’ fault?

CallmeHendricks · 14/03/2022 19:37

Why on earth would anyone have attacked you for going on maternity leave?

MarshaBradyo · 14/03/2022 19:39

@CallmeHendricks

"Trying to stop me posting and attacking as you do." Where have I tried to stop you posting? Or attacked you?
I did not hound teachers off these boards. Ludicrous claim and personal attack.
Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 19:44

I have absolutely no idea @CallmeHendricks

It was certainly one of the weirder moments on here.

I don’t think anyone thinks teachers were to blame for the schools closing but I don’t think the unions did us any favours.

But this is old ground.

Going forwards, I am not convinced at all that catch up funding will ever really work. Extra lessons, more work, more of the same, often stops being effective and can even be counterproductive.

noblegiraffe · 14/03/2022 19:47

So the solution would be funding stuff that isn't extra lessons, more of the same, yes?

Like the sort of things Sir Kevan Collins proposed, re social and physical activities.

Or more teaching assistants and smaller class sizes.

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Sherrystrull · 14/03/2022 19:47

@Cherrycrush

I do have a bit of a grudge about being attacked for having the tenacity for going on maternity leave around the time things were difficult in schools, but that’s not my concern here.

I think that if you want people to agree with you, not insulting them would be a good start.

Can you explain what happened?
Sherrystrull · 14/03/2022 19:49

@Cherrycrush

I have absolutely no idea *@CallmeHendricks*

It was certainly one of the weirder moments on here.

I don’t think anyone thinks teachers were to blame for the schools closing but I don’t think the unions did us any favours.

But this is old ground.

Going forwards, I am not convinced at all that catch up funding will ever really work. Extra lessons, more work, more of the same, often stops being effective and can even be counterproductive.

I think the funding should be put towards getting smaller classes and more support staff. I feel this would be more effective than tutors and extra classes
Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 19:51

Smaller classes would be good but I don’t see it happening any time soon. It’s not a new problem either. I remember pushing for this as HOD circa 2017. Apparently painting the toilets in the colours of the rainbow mattered more.

Sherrystrull · 14/03/2022 19:53

@Cherrycrush

Smaller classes would be good but I don’t see it happening any time soon. It’s not a new problem either. I remember pushing for this as HOD circa 2017. Apparently painting the toilets in the colours of the rainbow mattered more.
It's happening in my school to support the most affected year groups. I'm teaching one of those classes and the impact is already evident.
Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 19:57

Then can we deduce that the extra money is providing what is needed, in some schools at least?

noblegiraffe · 14/03/2022 19:59

And so more money so that more schools can do that would be good?

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Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 20:03

Depends how it’s used, doesn’t it?

If it’s used for dubious ‘counselling’ and talks by ‘mental health gurus’ then no.

noblegiraffe · 14/03/2022 20:05

We were just talking about smaller classes and more support staff and how that was having a positive impact.

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Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 20:12

And that’s being done with the money provided in some schools.

Sherrystrull · 14/03/2022 20:13

I don't think we've got extra money. Our head is just prioritising what is best for the children. I think it is a great way to use any extra money though.

noblegiraffe · 14/03/2022 20:13

And there's not enough money for it to be done in every school therefore more money is needed, yes?

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MrsHamlet · 14/03/2022 20:14

We are fortunate that we have some very small intervention groups in a couple of year groups. The impact is noticeable.
They are highly unlikely to run next year because we won't be able to afford them. We've spent a frightening amount on covid mitigations and the cupboard is bare.

Cherrycrush · 14/03/2022 20:15

@Sherrystrull

I don't think we've got extra money. Our head is just prioritising what is best for the children. I think it is a great way to use any extra money though.
Sometimes it’s not about how much money you have but where the priorities lie, so I’d agree with that.