Russia puts its nuclear deterrent on high alert

[Libertybear80]

Does anyone know what that actually means? Is he threatening nuclear war?

@ThymePoultice

Ah. Well I’m not sure even Boris gets to decide he’s going to surrender to NZ, and I doubt the generals would draft that plan.

Do you actually know what the letters of last resort are? Google it.

The thought of using nuclear weapons anywhere ever is utterly abhorrent to me. I wish they never ever came about. They don't provide a deterrent to an old psycho like Putin who would think of well if I'm going everyone else can too.
However I fear the Russians will carry on with the invasion knowing full well nato can't act any further, be propped up financially by the Chinese and eventually when they have gained control of Ukraine for several years will start pushing the boundaries of any other non NATO countries they fancy

@Monday55

I just googled to see where the nearest nuclear bunker is to our house and the nearest one is 40mins drive away. There seem to be loads of bunkers scattered around London but obviously not enough to take on all the residents. Politicians will get first dibs.

Be interesting to see how many of those bunkers listed on Google are actually fit for and equipped for use.

The UK has never (AFAIK) had any intention of building bunkers for the general population, certainly not for significant numbers.

Most of the Cold War ones were set up to protect some of the military, to allow the likes of the Royal Observer Corp report on attacks and feed it back up the line to anybody who was still interested, and also for some in local government - not just some politicians and civil servants but also the officials needed to try and keep power, water, law and order functioning at a local level for as long as possible..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Observer_Corps_Monitoring_Post

Do you actually know what the letters of last resort are? Google it.

Yes I know what they are. Just imagining who gets input on the drafting.

@theyhavenothingbuttheaudacity

The thought of using nuclear weapons anywhere ever is utterly abhorrent to me. I wish they never ever came about. They don't provide a deterrent to an old psycho like Putin who would think of well if I'm going everyone else can too. However I fear the Russians will carry on with the invasion knowing full well nato can't act any further, be propped up financially by the Chinese and eventually when they have gained control of Ukraine for several years will start pushing the boundaries of any other non NATO countries they fancy

That is a really scary thought that I have recently thought about

@ThymePoultice

Do you actually know what the letters of last resort are? Google it.

Yes I know what they are. Just imagining who gets input on the drafting.

I thought the whole point was that no-one except the PM who writes it ever knows exactly what is in the letter (although the possible options are known). The letter is destroyed unread when the PM who wrote it leaves office. Otherwise someone could leak the selected option to a potential enemy and negate the deterrent element of having nuclear weapons.

I thought the whole point was that no-one except the PM who writes it ever knows exactly what is in the letter (although the possible options are known). The letter is destroyed unread when the PM who wrote it leaves office. Otherwise someone could leak the selected option to a potential enemy and negate the deterrent element of having nuclear weapons.

They can’t possibly allow/advise brand new PMs to do it solo. Imagine someone like Blair, who admitted himself that after being in opposition since the 70s, they had to make it up as they went along in the early days after the 1997 election.

The wording might be secret. I don’t believe they don’t get incredibly specific technical & strategic advice, though. This moist be one of the great philosophical debates of Downing St.

Must not moist.

Nuclear bunkers would go against the MAD treaty as it would prevent what its aim is. It's bloody awful and I've no idea who ever thought it was an acceptable deterrent

@Monday55

I just googled to see where the nearest nuclear bunker is to our house and the nearest one is 40mins drive away. There seem to be loads of bunkers scattered around London but obviously not enough to take on all the residents. Politicians will get first dibs.

I can only find ones which are now muesums.

Seems you can hire it out for events though.

Does anyone know the planned date for imminent destruction so I can get a booking in early?

I can sell tickets to the event if that helps.

Thanks in advance

@theyhavenothingbuttheaudacity

Nuclear bunkers would go against the MAD treaty as it would prevent what its aim is. It's bloody awful and I've no idea who ever thought it was an acceptable deterrent

What is “the MAD treaty”?

I worked for a time, briefly, in my formative years, in what could vaguely be described as a “nuclear bunker” ( though fat lot of good it would have been against a nuke on target or even a near miss) and I had no idea I was in breach of some treaty obligation.

This situation could force crypto currency into major legitimacy.

@notimagain Mutually assured destruction