Boris Johnson to address nation as he describes Russian invasion as 'catastrophe for our continent

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Anyone finding the tone of this really quite terrifying...

I’m not one to get myself in a tizz over sensationalised news but this is starting to feel very different!

@Keepyourheadscrewedon

And we ALL know why you choose to derail threads backward as I have also seen. So why don't you give it a rest and go have a coffee break.

lol ahhhhhh the old Russian Troll insult that works so well... not!

I take it, like Putin, you are not tolerant of any opinions other than your own?

BorisJ is all hot air and cannot even commit more troops to eastern Europe for NATO re enforcement.

I listened to R4 this morning, the poor woman in a tube station, proud and defiant, on the world service, the border guards at Snake Island, just 13 of them inc women, asked to surrender by a russian ship, they refused, they were then shelled and all killed.

Ben Wallace (on Sky) possibly the most toady of all toads in this govt of criminals, refused to call the invasion of Ukraine a war crime.. he is a fucking cnut.

But YOU think he is marvellous and is the UK's next PM... another spineless Tory.

Character matters and law breaking by Govt ministers and the PM should be called, the only sanction should be resignation.

@Keepyourheadscrewedon

Can you just pipe down the Labour Unionist claptrap cake and stop derailing the thread. Just stop!

If you are going to moan about Johnson start a new fucking thread, but do not be so damn disrespectful as to do so on a thread about Ukraine.

I guess you are going to say the same to people who bring up Corbyn and say thank God he isn't in charge.

If not, then you are a hypocrite. Just like Johnson

Character matters. Putin knows Johnson's character. I am sure there is a file on his personality in the Kremlin

There is a link between the Tories and Russian donors. All relevant here.

There is a link between the Russians and Brexit. The Russia report.

All this matters and should be part of this thread in the wider context.

Oh Alex I wondered when we might hear from you.

Shall we talk about the disgusting acts of brutality against the innocent people of Ukraine for the second day in a row - or shall we talk about the fact the Russian army have run out of food and need to pause?

Not looking so great for Putin this morning, he has only just worked out his soldiers actually need food. Who would have thought it hey?

'I wonder why on earth on a thread about a war in Ukraine, and a second day of blood shed - with millions of displaced families and children, hundreds of people have died - why anyone would let the thread be derailed by 'partygate'? '

It's ridiculous isn't it, also the glib, flippant tone of some of these comments beggars belief. Calling Wallace a fucking cunt, constantly mocking BJ. Grow up.

The HOC is united, the UK is acting in unity with all its allies. Just stop the childish mudslinging. I noted Pippa tweeted about Rishis 'party questionnaire' yesterday, wtf is wrong with her.

I think we can probably guess how the thread and why the thread was derailed, it is the outright stupidity of others to follow with their limp verdicts that is truly depressing janiie

And in times of war we can not afford to have such churlishness and outright stupidity.

Shall we talk about the disgusting acts of brutality against the innocent people of Ukraine for the second day in a row - or shall we talk about the fact the Russian army have run out of food and need to pause?

I am, where as you, on a thread about Boris's response to Russian invasion, cannot do anything but throw around casual insults, condescending replies & accuse any poster with a different POV a Russian bot.

Ben Wallace & Bojo, who cannot bring themselves to condemn Putin as a war criminal, is not who we need in charge.

As for talk about Russians running out of food? until there is the evidence for such things, i'll hold judgement on that.

@Keepyourheadscrewedon

cake please don't talk to me, you can't even spell 'Ukrainian'

Now who's the one derailing the thread?

Corruption is important.

If you are genuinely concerned about what support we will offer Ukraine then I'd suggest corruption linked to Russian money is more important than ever.

@JaniieJones So you agree with BW that what we are seeing what Putin is doing in Ukraine is not a war crime?

@Notonthestairs

Corruption is important.

If you are genuinely concerned about what support we will offer Ukraine then I'd suggest corruption linked to Russian money is more important than ever.

Indeed.

We could have a massive impact if we targeted severely Russians in this country who are supporting this invasion.

Russian money is everywhere in London. Are we doing enough to target the people who could have an influence or even stop Putin?

I can most definitely post evidence as you ask Alex straight out of Moscow in fact, dated on Monday:

www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/21/russian-troops-at-ukraines-border-face-nightmare-living-conditions-a76488

Just in case you are struggling to click on the link I will outline for you:

'Russian troops stationed in the town of Dolbino near the Ukrainian border have been living in “nightmare” conditions, sleeping on cramped floors and going without military food rations for days, according to social media reports and rights advocates interviewed by The Moscow Times.

The soldiers from the Taman and Kantemirovskaya Divisions are stationed in the town of Dolbino 30 kilometers from the Ukrainian border. They have gone without food rations and proper accommodation for the last five days, with soldiers forced to pay out-of-pocket for supplies.

The conditions were first noticed after local residents reported an influx of soldiers and conscripts who claimed they had been left at the train station by military officers.

Locals reported providing conscripts with food and water after some recruits claimed to have run out of money.

“We are not sure why, but there was clearly a violation of usual practice,” Svetlana Golub, the head of the Soldiers' Mothers Committee, an NGO that advocates for soldiers’ rights, told The Moscow Times on Monday.

This is straight out of Russia, first hand evidence.

Given this was FIVE days ago, I should think the poor chaps are in pretty bad shape by now

Hence the most inconvenient 'pause' in the miltiary operation.

*military

@Keepyourheadscrewedon

And in times of war we can not afford to have such churlishness and outright stupidity.

Exactly.

Save the yeah but no but cake for later.

Just for once folk should recognise he is handling this as well as anyone can, even Starmer and Blackford support him!! Some mumsnetters may think BJ is a 'liar a sleaze ball etc etc' but we are united with the rest of NATO in the UK's response. Surely his statement in the HOC passed mn approval?!

Hence the most inconvenient 'pause' in the miltiary operation

Indeed. It's easy to attack a country, much more difficult to carry out the operations if you don't have stable supply lines, and difficult to keep occupying it when you have a country that resists.

'Ben Wallace & Bojo, who cannot bring themselves to condemn Putin as a war criminal, is not who we need in charge.'

Omg. Ooh let's a have a no confidence vote shall we, let's write to our MPs. That worked so well last month didn't it?

He is doing as well as any leader can in this grave situation.

He is doing as well as any leader can in this grave situation.

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Why on earth are you laughing? Wtf is funny?

You do know we are acting in unity with the rest of NATO don't you?

The speeches yesterday were unified, all three speeches from all three parties were incredibly evocative and at least we still have adults in the room in some parts of the country.

Some actually think Johnson runs the whole country by himself, what can you do with people that are just so damn thick and would rather bang on about trivia and 'party gate' than have the intelligence to work out the real reasons why a thread has been derailed so spectacularly....

There is literally nothing you can do with these people, and they are used as pawns to prevent the real discussion taking place.

Good Keep i hope they they rebel against Putin.

Despite what you may think, i want a far stronger response to Putin & neither Starmer or Wallace can call out Putin as a war criminal, utterly pathetic, if killing unarmed civillians and invading a country with no good reason cannot be called a war Crime, then no wonder Putin thinks he is untouchable.

At least Tobias Ellwood is talking sense & has done for months now.

Not looking so great for Putin this morning, he has only just worked out his soldiers actually need food. Who would have thought it hey

I doubt he cares - they're just cannon fodder like they were in Stalin's day.

Also if they are desperate they fight harder. Don't assume Putin hasn't got this all worked out in his evil mind.

'The speeches yesterday were unified, all three speeches from all three parties were incredibly evocative'

Yes. Starmer and Backford understanding the gravity of the situation and for once not using it as an excuse to try and score points.

Yet here some are on mn, childish name calling and sneering. Even lolling.

The only one derailing is you @Keepyourheadscrewedon with your constant little digs at the Reds under Bed narrative.