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Flightradar 24 storm watchers

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liveforsummer · 16/02/2022 15:49

So we've got Dudley today and tomorrow and Eunice on Friday so thought I'd start a thread. Dudley has barely hit here in Edinburgh and already there's a flight from LHR struggling to land.

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CaveMum · 18/02/2022 11:22

@Ocsetldil

I bet there are a lot of cheers on that Miami plane now!

Could someone please put the JetTV link up on the new thread? I’m off to walk the dog before it gets too bad (Norfolk based).

@Ocsetldil here you go but I've put it on the new thread too as this one will be filled up by the time you get back!
UsernameIsNotAvailableRightNow · 18/02/2022 11:22

Another plane heading for Bristol, wonder if they will struggle as much

Thedailyfailx · 18/02/2022 11:22

Yay Bristol, bet those passengers need a drink!

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Namechangeagain84 · 18/02/2022 11:23

Athens coming in now. The wind has really got up since a few hours ago. These pilots do a brilliant job.

elisenbrunnen · 18/02/2022 11:23

Just been over to Gatwick, there's aplace under the landing flightpath to watch the planes come in.
1st plane - don't know whpo, Go round
2nd Westjet 787, landed no problems
3rd Norwegian 737, Go round
4th Norwegian back again, blown around all over the sky, poor things. Landed though.
5 TUI, go round.
6 Easyjet, go round...

Really tough out there. 4 Go rounds in 6 planes.

EduCated · 18/02/2022 11:24

So Athens coming in now, looks like a bit of a lull after that? No one lined up behind.

LittleSnakes · 18/02/2022 11:24

Phew!!

Namechangeagain84 · 18/02/2022 11:25

Whoah this one's wobbly

FairyLightQueen · 18/02/2022 11:25

I can't believe Athens managed to land!

Pthagonal · 18/02/2022 11:25

ErrolTheDragon

I take it Bristol airport is on a bit of a hill?

Yep, you take off going up it. It's, um, an interesting experience.

Namechangeagain84 · 18/02/2022 11:26

It looked a little out of control but did it!

Namechangeagain84 · 18/02/2022 11:27

The people standing on the roadside are making me more nervous than the landings!

squashyhat · 18/02/2022 11:27

Ryanair go round at Bristol

Namechangeagain84 · 18/02/2022 11:28

Jersey is in its way back round.

wonderstuff · 18/02/2022 11:29

Why would a Lebanon to Pohang flight be circling Ukraine? Really weird.

Namechangeagain84 · 18/02/2022 11:30

Nassau is also on its way around.

elisenbrunnen · 18/02/2022 11:30

Ber-Lgw easyjet looks like it did one attempt at gatwick, now on its way north?

BoredZelda · 18/02/2022 11:31

thats 50,000 workplaces getting zero work done this morning

I'm multitasking!

weaselwords · 18/02/2022 11:32

Dublin to Birmingham seems to be heading to Manchester. I’ve just watched one land safely there so feel more confident for everyone on the plane. I’m going to stop watching, though as it’s too worrying.

Maerchentante · 18/02/2022 11:33

@BoredZelda

thats 50,000 workplaces getting zero work done this morning

I'm multitasking!

So am I, would be a bit better if I were in the office so I could have one screen for work and one for the rest.
backinthebox · 18/02/2022 11:33

@Pennox “Pilot types - do you take more of a risk when it's third and final attempt or is it all determined by the automation?”

We never take a risk. It’s all basically down to numbers. Inside the crosswind limits? Make an attempt to land. Outside? Don’t attempt. Made an attempt but the aircraft shouts ‘windshear’ at you? Compulsory go around (99.9% true, there are the odd exceptions to this but they won’t be applying today, so if they get a windshear warning they will go around.) As I said earlier, the automation doesn’t get much of a look in at this. It is likely that the pilots will have the autopilot in for the initial approach as only a nutter would have flown a long flight and then think ‘wa-hey, I think I’ll fly it manually today!’ Although we do have people who would do that, and that’s why we have at least 2 pilots on each flight, so the second can say to the first ‘do you really think that’s a great idea?’ After the initial automatic approach, they will take the autopilot out. I’d be doing that at about 6-700ft today. We have a compulsory check at 1000ft to ensure everything is going well so far and within limits to carry on the approach. If something isn’t stable, such as speed or approach path, we go around. Speed will be difficult to control today, which may account for some of the earlier go arounds that are not windshear go arounds. Once we get closer to the ground, at a certain point we remove thrust and ‘flare’ ie bring the nose up so we land on the main gear first, this is a vulnerable moment. It’s possible at this point to ‘float’ ie not get the wheels onto the ground, or to ‘drift’ ie end up not on the centre line. If that happens, we go around. Once the wheels are down, if we bounce and haven’t got the reverse thrust deployed, we go around. Finally, if it all just looks like shit and you don’t like the look of the way things are going, we can go around.

The way we are taught, we will never be criticised for carrying out a go around (assuming you do it properly!) It’s the safer thing to do. The pilots are entirely in control of the decision to go around, no one on the ground except an air traffic controller can tell them to go around. In real life, in well over 20 years now, I have done 4 go arounds for real, but hundreds and hundreds in the simulator. We practice them every time we go in the sim, in all conditions - wind, fog, windshear, instrument or automatics failure, another plane in the way, etc. Even making the decision to go around is a big one, so we practice making the decision too. Often the trainer will tell us to go around at an unexpected moment, or program the sim to present us with conditions where we have to make the decision for ourselves.

For anyone who is worried about someone they know being on a plane in this, don’t worry. Planes are fine up in the air - it looks wobbly on BJ TV but we fly in higher winds than this all the time - the jet streams across the Atlantic are frequently faster than 100kts, it’s just we aren’t on tv showing us in relation to the ground! It is tricky getting it down those last couple of hundred feet in this sort of weather, but our training is just for this.

For the poster who asked if we get scared or like a bit of a challenge, I must admit if I see awkward weather such as fog, wind or snow, I do think ‘come on!’ 🤣 I love a boring day at work where I get to get off and go to the beach and nothing exciting happened, but I love a bit of a challenge too.

liveforsummer · 18/02/2022 11:34

Prague flight to Bristol come straight in and landed first attempt with out circling

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starfishmummy · 18/02/2022 11:34

@wonderstuff

Why would a Lebanon to Pohang flight be circling Ukraine? Really weird.
It's been there since last night. Posts upthread saying it's a drone. (It keeps changing its code too)
FairyLightQueen · 18/02/2022 11:36

I'm still following the LIS-LHR one. I really can't figure out where it's going!

ErrolTheDragon · 18/02/2022 11:36

@wonderstuff

Why would a Lebanon to Pohang flight be circling Ukraine? Really weird.
It started from Sicily, that info is bogus.
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