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Thanksfor · 2022-02-05T22:04:22+00:00

I think I’m happy with this (not that’s it’s any of my business). She’s clearly made Charles very happy and has fitted into the family well. Good for her, it’s deserved.

UserBot9to5 · 07/02/2022 08:03

I think if an affair 30+ years ago is the worst thing you have to reflect on then you're ok. They were consenting adults. and I loved Diana! but time passes. Id hate the things i did 30 years ago to be seen to define me. Argh!
Anyway, it's not as simple as Diana fans will never forget, clearly.

Andouillette · 07/02/2022 11:21

@blyn72

Apparently the Queen has decided that Camilla will have the old Queen Mother's crown when the time comes.

She doesn't need to 'decide', it is the consort's crown, not the QM's. It will be remodelled, or at the very least resized for Camilla and again for Katherine.

Monopolyiscrap · 07/02/2022 11:25

@LittleBearPad to get forgiveness, you first have to admit you did something wrong.

Andouillette · 07/02/2022 11:28

Just going to add some more detail about consort crowns, there have been several and the current one was created for the QM but using existing stones. Camilla and/or Katherine could use the current one or get a new one made using the same stones or others in the royal collection. The Koh-i-Noor diamond will most likely be used as traditionally it is seen as unlucky for a man to wear it.

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2022 11:29

[quote Monopolyiscrap]@LittleBearPad to get forgiveness, you first have to admit you did something wrong.[/quote]
No you don’t. Or at least only if you’re a Catholic.

Monopolyiscrap · 07/02/2022 11:32

@Blossomtoes why should I forgive someone for something if they think they did nothing wrong? I don't.
Charles and Camilla were unfaithful, which seems par for the course in the Royal Family. That was not okay.
But Charles things we should look up to him?

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2022 11:36

[quote Monopolyiscrap]@Blossomtoes why should I forgive someone for something if they think they did nothing wrong? I don't.
Charles and Camilla were unfaithful, which seems par for the course in the Royal Family. That was not okay.
But Charles things we should look up to him?[/quote]
It’s up to you who you forgive. It’s not up to you to forgive them, they haven’t injured you.

Monopolyiscrap · 07/02/2022 11:41

Okay I don't respect them then. They have had an affair and think they did nothing wrong. Vile pair.

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2022 11:44

@Monopolyiscrap

Okay I don't respect them then. They have had an affair and think they did nothing wrong. Vile pair.

And they’ve been married for 17 years and their family have forgiven them. 🤷‍♀️

youvegottenminuteslynn · 07/02/2022 11:47

@Monopolyiscrap

Or maybe they do think what they did was wrong and regret the circumstances but have stayed together regardless and have been forgiven by those nearest and dearest to them.

It's bizarre to be so angry with someone you don't know for something that doesn't affect you.

I think the monarchy is a completely outdated institution that I would be happy to see gone.

I cannot imagine being so angry about something that strangers did decades ago that all parties involved have moved past.

Monopolyiscrap · 07/02/2022 11:51

I am not at all angry. Why do you think that?
I do think they appear to be pretty horrible people.
How do you know their family have forgiven them? I would never criticise my parents in public. That doesn't mean I don't have some private criticisms. Most people don't wash their dirty linen in public. Why would the Royal Family be any different?

CallmeHendricks · 07/02/2022 11:51

I think, hope, that the pendulum is swinging back now towards the Royal Family being able to concentrate on the actual causes they work for, rather than the media coverage of what they're wearing or who got more exposure than who else.
Some of them have courted this more than others. Now that Harry and Meghan are settled abroad and that story is, hopefully, dying down for now, I think we can look towards people like Camilla and Princess Anne to continue leading by example and getting on with the job.
Diana and Fergie and then the Sussexes did as much damage to the institution as they did to help modernise it, in my opinion.

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2022 11:55

How do you know their family have forgiven them?I

The Queen’s announcement this weekend was a pretty clear indication.

Classica · 07/02/2022 11:55

I think, hope, that the pendulum is swinging back now towards the Royal Family being able to concentrate on the actual causes they work for, rather than the media coverage of what they're wearing or who got more exposure than who else.

Andrew enters stage left.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 07/02/2022 12:05

@Monopolyiscrap

I am not at all angry. Why do you think that? I do think they appear to be pretty horrible people. How do you know their family have forgiven them? I would never criticise my parents in public. That doesn't mean I don't have some private criticisms. Most people don't wash their dirty linen in public. Why would the Royal Family be any different?

I think that because your posts sound as if you're angry. Very much so.

I hardly think the Queen would have made the announcement re Camilla if she didn't think forgive her. Do you?

Again, it's bizarre to be so invested in the relationship of strangers after decades, to call them vile and say you don't forgive them as if they personally wronged you.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 07/02/2022 12:06

@CallmeHendricks

I think, hope, that the pendulum is swinging back now towards the Royal Family being able to concentrate on the actual causes they work for, rather than the media coverage of what they're wearing or who got more exposure than who else. Some of them have courted this more than others. Now that Harry and Meghan are settled abroad and that story is, hopefully, dying down for now, I think we can look towards people like Camilla and Princess Anne to continue leading by example and getting on with the job. Diana and Fergie and then the Sussexes did as much damage to the institution as they did to help modernise it, in my opinion.

I think Prince Andrew has rather fucked up this plan.

Monopolyiscrap · 07/02/2022 12:06

@Blossomtoes it says nothing of the sort. It says the Queen may have forgiven them. Or it simply says the Queen is being pragmatic. Charles has made it clear Camilla will be called Queen. The Queen's primary concern is the stability of the Royal Family. She has always been pragmatic first.

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2022 12:08

So the Queen’s not their family then @Monopolyiscrap?

Toddlerteaplease · 07/02/2022 12:10

I don't know why people still think the Queen will abdicate. She won't. She sees her self as an anointed sovereign, and that is for life. And the promise she made when she was 18. Not to mention the abdication crisis in 1936 and the upset that All caused. She'll step back, as she needs. But be queen till her last breath.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/02/2022 12:18

I think we can look towards people like Camilla and Princess Anne to continue leading by example and getting on with the job

Not sure it works to have Anne and Camilla in the same sentence, when their workload is so dramatically different (and I'll be amazed if Camilla's prepared to take on a whole lot more, even if the PR pretends she has)

Besides, Anne has made a point of it "not being all about her", whereas Camilla had little choice in the matter for years

CallmeHendricks · 07/02/2022 12:25

Yes, I agree that the Andrew issue is a rather large fly in the ointment. So is Harry's forthcoming book.
But I would prefer to disregard them as irrelevancies, going forward. They're out of the official picture now, and are unlikely to make many, if any, appearances on the balcony from now on.

Monopolyiscrap · 07/02/2022 12:34

@Blossomtoes

So the Queen’s not their family then *@Monopolyiscrap*?

The Queen is not their only family member.

Monopolyiscrap · 07/02/2022 12:34

"lead by example" - what example is that supposed to be?

Lockdownbear · 07/02/2022 12:36

@Puzzledandpissedoff they might have different work loads but let's not forget they are both Grannies well beyond statutory retirement age.

As much as they are looked after and their jobs are different they are both still working, it's still a commitment to get up be at x place at y time.
Prep for engagements, dresses, outfits, fittings, hair makeup.

Anne was born and brought up with it and had years to perfect the trade, she was the Royal glamor girl at one point.

Camilla wasn't she's carved out a role and moulded herself into the RF despite the press being horrible to her, face like a horse and all that stuff.

CornishGem1975 · 07/02/2022 12:40

Camilla has done a marvellous job, I completely support the Queen in this decision. I think she's a credit to the family when actual born and bred Royals have done nothing but damage in the past few years.

They had an affair, hardly a hanging crime. Diana had bloody loads and yet she's still given Saint status.