Nick Jonas and Priyanka Chopra Surrogacy

[MintyGreenDream]

I'm usually open minded about these things but it appears that they've admitted that she doesn't have fertility issues but her schedule was too "hectic" to fit in conceiving a baby.Wtaf.
Sorry but this seems very wrong

Nick Jonas and Priyanka welcome baby girl 12 weeks early mol.im/a/10428475 via dailym.ai/android

Sorry for the dm article

• [Title edited by MNHQ to say Nick Jonas, not Joe Jonas]

There is something really Dickensian about surrogacy even though it obviously never existed back then. As PP pointed out, a rich woman would never consider renting out her womb to a poor one. Large sums of money are paid high up in the supply chain. Sadly, nobody could have bonded with the baby girl at this stage so nobody is capable of rooting for her in the same way as if it were a conventional birth. It is cold and transactional and that is one of the biggest ethical problems it throws up.

That poor, poor little baby and the damage caused to the mother is just unthinkable. Absolute animals, the lot of them.

How sad. I wonder if they will tryban dgetbout of the deal and have another shot now that the baby has not been born perfectly on time and tinsuit filming schedules. These self-obsessed people don't seem like they have the time or committment levels in their lives for a full term baby, never mind a premature one who may have disabilities or long term problems associated with their premature birth.

It may be that the story was leaked because there was a glitch in the contract which was not ironed out in a timely manner. Sadly, the non-wealthy and vulnerable will always lose out in those situations.

Don't be ridiculous she's part of an agency who offers surrogacy. Do you have any idea how much she'll have made carrying a child for a celebrity couple?!

Exactly.

And yet, women who are already rich don't do it. Surrogacy is rarely done out of the goodness of someone's heart. It's done for money. It's basically the buying and selling of a baby.

What happens if this baby has disabilities due to being premature? Could Jonas and Chopra technically say 'no thanks, this isn't what we were expecting, we want our money back' in the same way as you would if you bought anything and it was 'faulty?

This stuff must all be written into the contracts?

Absolutely shocking. I sincerely hope paid surrogacy is never introduced in the UK. It is not OK for women to rent out their bodies.

If the Jonases don’t have time or inclination to have a baby themselves, they should adopt.

@Crimesean

Rich couple pay poor woman to rent her uterus and risk injury or even death.

Scumbags. Commercial surrogacy should be banned.

Yep disgusting behaviour from the pair of them.

Sadly, nobody could have bonded with the baby girl at this stage so nobody is capable of rooting for her in the same way as if it were a conventional birth. It is cold and transactional and that is one of the biggest ethical problems it throws up.

Yes, whose baby is she at the moment, while she is going to be in hospital for weeks, possibly months? Usually when a baby is born prematurely the mother is in hospital for a while as well, and there is a sort of shared experience where both mother and baby have been through something very traumatic which bonds them (or not sadly in some cases). The birth mother can't bond with her, as she is not the person that is going to be looking after her in the future.

Would it be like a 'the product is not ready, delivery is going to take longer than expected and there is a chance the product may be faulty' situation?

Of course Priyanka Chopra could be there all day every day with her new baby, but if its true that she didn't want to get pregnant herself because of her busy schedule, then I doubt this is the case.

In interviews regarding the prospect of having children, Priyanka (and even her friend MM) give off the same vibes as though having a family is more about the picture perfect completion of a transaction ally advantageous relationship rather than something they want with all their heart and soul. I can see why surrogacy would sit well with them.

My friend has been a surrogate and is a millionaire. £2m house and two children of her own. People’s motivations for being a surrogate will vary, so you can’t just assume ‘poor woman’, because she is most definitely not poor at all.

I agree though, that for women who are driven to surrogacy solely for the money, is upsetting.

I hope the baby does well. If its true they are too busy, thats horrible plus how are thry gping to have time to oarent?

@Soffit

There is something really Dickensian about surrogacy even though it obviously never existed back then. As PP pointed out, a rich woman would never consider renting out her womb to a poor one. Large sums of money are paid high up in the supply chain. Sadly, nobody could have bonded with the baby girl at this stage so nobody is capable of rooting for her in the same way as if it were a conventional birth. It is cold and transactional and that is one of the biggest ethical problems it throws up.

I didn't need to exist in Victorian times because there were orphanages and poor houses providing a steady stream of babies. Modern-day surrogacy sits as part of that continuum: poor women having babies for the rich. It's just we're pretending there's more choice around it now.

In terms of the 'all willing participants' angle, no-one asked the baby, did they?

Iirc she has fertility issues. The DM 'source' is obviously just stirring and no decent PR would take the time to respond to anonymous sources. That just gives them credibility that they don't deserve.
I had wondered about the black and white birth announcement but seeing that the baby is very premature; that makes sense. The surrogate industry is exploitative and premature birth is a risk if you're using a surrogate who has already had multiple births. I hope the baby and the mother are ok.

I don't understand how it is thought a good thing that the surrogate mother was doing it for the fifth time. Most surrogates already have their own children, so it's likely the woman who gave birth to this baby was on her (at least) 7th or 8th pregnancy.

It's not surprising that the baby was born premature as the surrogate mother's body has been used and abused for the last 10 years or so

There aren't many women who go through 7 or 8 pregnancies over the space of 10 or 15 years who don't have some serious physical and medical issues as they get older. Who is going to pay for those?

I find it really odd that a couple who apparently have schedules so busy that they don't have time to TTC together, haven't considered how they will have time to actually parent a child. Particularly a baby which may need lots of additional care as a result of being premature.

I sincerely hope everything works out for all concerned.

Surrogacy is abhorrent and abusive.

Sometime women are complicit in their abuse. Doesn’t make it right to normalise surrogacy.

Show me a rich woman carrying a baby for a poor woman, and I’ll believe it’s altruistic.

I don't agree with surrogacy anyway, but if your schedules are too busy to conceive how the fuck do you have time to bring up a child? I suppose that job will also be farmed out.

How do people know it’s because they are too busy they used a surrogate??
She is 39! She may not be able to carry her own child. @ConstanceL she’s not a c lister in India

I’m not saying I agree with it but Kim k didn’t have this much hate when she sued surrogate despite having a few children already.

Who are they anyway? I e never heard of either of them.

If the DM says it it must be true.

Pretty sure they will be feeling rather guilty given their baby is very prem. I'm sure if she'd just had the baby herself and not rented some poor woman's womb they probably wouldn't have a poorly baby with potential long term issues. Sad that people can do this, if you think 39 is too old to carry a child then you've missed the boat! Busy schedule? If she's too busy to be pregnant how are they going to find time to raise their child, pregnancy was the easy bit!!

Your risk of premature birth increases after each pregnancy (due to uterus distension) so if this is the surrogates at least 6th pregnancy, that is a factor in this. Makes it all the more unethical. Did these foolish people not realsie that? Surlwybyoud pick someone only on their third or fourth? Don't the agencies age out their stock of women?

Unethical practice all round. And nobody is making millions out of being a surrogate! It would take decades. And multiple, dangerous pregnancies.

@PossiblyDreaming

That poor, poor little baby and the damage caused to the mother is just unthinkable. Absolute animals, the lot of them.

@KurtWilde

For starters she's not 'a poor woman', she's part of an agency and has been a surrogate 5 times before. You're talking like they just dragged a random woman off the street and impregnated her against her wishes... Surrogates know the risks of pregnancy just like any woman who carries a baby and births it does. It's fully consented to and the best health care is provided when it's all done properly.....

This. ^ I can't get wound up about women being surrogates tbh. Not all of them are 'poor' and destitute, as someone stated further back, and I agree that doing it 5 times does not automatically mean she is poor. Many women do it for altruistic reasons, and yeah, for the money too sometimes.

But just because someone does something for money, that doesn't mean they're 'poor' and disadvantaged and vulnerable.

I know it doesn't suit some to hear it but it's true.

I don't see the same faux horror, and pearl-clutching when someone gets to adopt a baby. It's all 'awwww I am SO pleased for you OP, you will make a wonderful mother.' #Living the dream #mummy4life.

No-one gives a flying fuck about the poor woman who has given up her baby. Do they think the 'birth mother' gave up the baby because he/she had the wrong colour eyes?

NO.

It was the most difficult and devastating decision of her life, and she will NEVER recover from it. It will be the first thing she thinks about when she wakes up, and the last thing she thinks about before she goes to sleep. EVERY DAY OF HER LIFE.

But people (on here) are too busy awwing and cooing over someone getting a baby, to give a shit about the birth mother.

Hypocrisy at its finest.