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Prince Andrew stripped...

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Sarahlou63 · 13/01/2022 17:27

Of all royal patronages and military titles.

Guess mummy has finally had enough.

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DeliriaSkibbly · 15/01/2022 16:29

@PegasusNo2

But no other organisation that is set up in this way to help start-ups takes this slice of the pie. And if you're naive to think that money is going to help other start-ups and not to fund -Paed- Prince Andrew's lifestyle I don't think anything can be said to convince you it's not right.

DeliriaSkibbly · 15/01/2022 16:30

@Puzzledandpissedoff

How does Prince Edward fund himself, strange how he flies totally under the radar? He also has a massive home how does he fund everything?

Same way as the other also-rans - through the Queen - though with fewer left to do the work he's probably not regarded as an also-ran any more

Good luck to them with that, considering what happened when he and Sophie were left to their own devices last time; the bankrupt film and PR companies, the ... errr ... venture of It's a Royal Knockout, Sophie's indiscretions and the rest
If you recall, the Queen had to buy them off and make them "full time royals" because they weren't fit for anything else - though it wouldn't surprise me if Edward now insists he "gave up a glittering career to do his duty"

Yes, his amazing career in the theatre as, er, the tea boy...
NinaDefoe · 15/01/2022 16:37

Aww, poor useless Edward! 🤣

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Newestname002 · 15/01/2022 16:37

@Sarahlou63

Of all royal patronages and military titles.

Guess mummy has finally had enough.

I wonder if there wasn't a great deal of encouragement from both Charles and William? Perhaps advice Prince Philip might have had if he was still alive?

Also if he's proceeding as a private citizen and he, perhaps, loses the case and has to pay, I wonder if those damages would be limited by his own funds rather than the Queen's personal fortune? 🌹

DeliriaSkibbly · 15/01/2022 16:44

@Newestname002

Other family members are not liable for his debt unless it can be shown he moved funds/assets around to try to hide them from the authorities.

However, in the UK, under POCA, future assets can be seized even if they weren't there at the time of the POCA award being made. I'm not sure if this applies to civil cases in the UK. Nor am I sure if there is a similar provision under US law. (POCA = Proceeds Of Crime Act)

I don't think the fact he's pursuing this as a private citizen is relevant. This is being said as though it's a new development but, really, it never was any different. He's always been a private citizen in this particular case. I suspect this is being emphasised to try to deflect from the fact he is still a member of the Royal Family and I wouldn't be too sure that Mummy isn't still footing the bill...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/01/2022 16:54

Yes, his amazing career in the theatre as, er, the tea boy...

Tea boy? TEA BOY???? He was a producer, don't you know, or at least so he claims Wink

Actually there are other theories as to why he was so attracted to a theatrical milieu, but they're perhaps best not mentioned here ...

derxa · 15/01/2022 16:57

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Yes, his amazing career in the theatre as, er, the tea boy...

Tea boy? TEA BOY???? He was a producer, don't you know, or at least so he claims Wink

Actually there are other theories as to why he was so attracted to a theatrical milieu, but they're perhaps best not mentioned here ...

Are you saying it's shameful to be gay?
DeliriaSkibbly · 15/01/2022 17:02

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Yes, his amazing career in the theatre as, er, the tea boy...

Tea boy? TEA BOY???? He was a producer, don't you know, or at least so he claims Wink

Actually there are other theories as to why he was so attracted to a theatrical milieu, but they're perhaps best not mentioned here ...

I'm sure he was.

Mummy: What was work like today Edward dear ? What is it you do again ?

Edward: I'm a producer in the theatre mummy.

Mummy: Ah yes, and what did you produce today ?

Edward: 24 cups, 6 black with one, 8 white with one, 4 white with two, 4 peppermint swirl and 2 rooibush zingers.

Mummy: Lovely, dear. You definitely earned your royal payment today with all that hard work. The £10k is being transferred to your account directly. Did you speak to Granny today ?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/01/2022 17:07

Are you saying it's shameful to be gay?

Of course I'm not, since it isn't, but at the same time it seems to be a reference which the RF prefer not to make - see the Fawcett injunction, etc.

SenecaFallsRedux · 15/01/2022 17:11

However, in the UK, under POCA, future assets can be seized even if they weren't there at the time of the POCA award being made. I'm not sure if this applies to civil cases in the UK. Nor am I sure if there is a similar provision under US law. (POCA = Proceeds Of Crime Act)

There are similar laws in various jurisdictions in the US, but they would not apply in this case because the case is civil, not criminal. In the US, if there is a civil judgment of liability against a defendant, future assets can generally be attached to satisfy the judgment. Reaching assets in a foreign jurisdiction presents additional hurdles.

mathanxiety · 15/01/2022 17:14

Because if the had been groomed that far by JE/GM, then she would have presented that smiling face to him and he would have had no reason to suspect that she was anything other than happy to be there

So the obvious next thing to do would be to shake her hand, autograph a photo of himself for her to show her loving parents, and tell her it must be way past her bedtime, so, 'Goodnight, dear'. Then on to an evening with people his own age?

Apparently not.

mathanxiety · 15/01/2022 17:18

When you enjoy positions of great honour, such as being Colonel in Chief of the Grenadier Guards, it's surely not too much to ask that you conduct yourself in a decent manner.

YY to this.

The various Guards regiments of which he is CiC spoke out strenuously in a formal complaint against his continued association with them.

Smallkeys · 15/01/2022 17:42

Real question there’s no doubt that V was manipulated and abused etc but what is it that makes everyone believe that PA did have Sex with her? Is it just taking her word or is he know for that ?

DeliriaSkibbly · 15/01/2022 17:45

@Smallkeys

Real question there’s no doubt that V was manipulated and abused etc but what is it that makes everyone believe that PA did have Sex with her? Is it just taking her word or is he know for that ?
He's known for being a revolting sleaze who'll shag anything in sight. That's according to his own protection officers.

Coupled with a sense of entitlement larger than some European countries, a sense of duty and honour smaller than most quantum particles and an IQ broadly similar to his shoe size makes it all too easy to believe.

derxa · 15/01/2022 17:49

He's known for being a revolting sleaze who'll shag anything in sight. That's according to his own protection officers. Not known for shagging young girls though.

DeliriaSkibbly · 15/01/2022 18:13

@derxa

He's known for being a revolting sleaze who'll shag anything in sight. That's according to his own protection officers. Not known for shagging young girls though.
Well given that he spent a lot of time with a convicted paedophile and a convicted sex trafficker, I know where I'd be placing my bets.
DingleyDel · 15/01/2022 18:13

@Smallkeys

Real question there’s no doubt that V was manipulated and abused etc but what is it that makes everyone believe that PA did have Sex with her? Is it just taking her word or is he know for that ?
The news night interview. I’ve never seen anyone more obviously lying.
ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 15/01/2022 18:14

The separate issue is one of Prince Andrew's judgment and his friends - who at the time were not convicted felons. His interview was ill-advised, what he said during the interview indicates poor judgment but does not constitute guilt.

By the time the Central Park photograph when Andrew stayed in JE house, JE was a convicted felon. That is why people are questioning Andrew’s behaviour.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 15/01/2022 18:16

JE was convicted of sex with a child in 2008 yet Andrew stayed with him in 2010.

Smallkeys · 15/01/2022 18:24

@DeliriaSkibbly that reply was very well put !

Smallkeys · 15/01/2022 18:27

^
By the time the Central Park photograph when Andrew stayed in JE house, JE was a convicted felon. That is why people are questioning Andrew’s behaviour. ^

I thought it was plausible when he said in the interview he went to break off contact personally with a walk in the park but he did lose me when he then stayed more days and had a dinner party with him that’s just stupid.

merrymouse · 15/01/2022 18:37

I thought it was plausible when he said in the interview he went to break off contact personally with a walk in the park but he did lose me when he then stayed more days and had a dinner party with him that’s just stupid.

given what has been suggested about how Epstein made money, I wonder whether Andrew thought he had a choice?

errnerrcallnernnernnern · 15/01/2022 18:42

A chance at what?

errnerrcallnernnernnern · 15/01/2022 18:43

A choice for what, sorry?

derxa · 15/01/2022 18:44

Well given that he spent a lot of time with a convicted paedophile and a convicted sex trafficker, I know where I'd be placing my bets. Yes I know all that but this is what the press have dug up about him
www.thesun.co.uk/news/10367796/prince-andrew-party-girls-photos-saint-tropez/