Another Bloody Downing Street party

[JustJam4Tea]

So hours after telling us to only meet one other person outside from a different household 100 invited to Downing Street BYO in the garden.

It was unlawful to mix outside. If my employer had invited 100 staff to a garden party we’d have all been arrested.

@AllThePogs

My father had a major operation in the first lockdown. No I did not visit him at home as he was told that if he recovered he should live another ten years, but that if he got covid then, he would probably die. I was one of the plebs still having to go into work and unsurprisingly did not want to kill my father.

I wouldn't have visited my father in these circumstances either. But apart from being unsteady on his feet my father was as healthy as a horse.

@AllThePogs

I have read some callous posters on MN, but derxa takes the biscuit. What about the 13 year old who died alone in hospital? Do you think the parents are to blame for that as well?

No the rules were utterly inhumane. It was heart breaking for those parents

@derxa Fine you broke the law because you deemed it safe to do so.
I didn't because my father was at risk.
But many older people, in particular, are very law-abiding. My in-laws would not allow anyone to break the law and visit them. If it is the law, they stick to it.
I think the government encouraging people to see laws as optional to save their own skin is particularly vile.

@YogaLite

Not read the whole thread but the smirk on Johnson's face in recent clip on BBC when he says he won't comment as the matter is under investigation by Sue Gray, just made me so angry I could have punched him Maybe we should all go on strike and abolish this government

This was my mood on waking this morning.

[quote AllThePogs]@derxa Fine you broke the law because you deemed it safe to do so.
I didn't because my father was at risk.
But many older people, in particular, are very law-abiding. My in-laws would not allow anyone to break the law and visit them. If it is the law, they stick to it.
I think the government encouraging people to see laws as optional to save their own skin is particularly vile.[/quote]
Agree.

[quote AllThePogs]@derxa Fine you broke the law because you deemed it safe to do so.
I didn't because my father was at risk.
But many older people, in particular, are very law-abiding. My in-laws would not allow anyone to break the law and visit them. If it is the law, they stick to it.
I think the government encouraging people to see laws as optional to save their own skin is particularly vile.[/quote]
I didn't break the law. My DF died in 2015 so my example was completely hypothetical

My in laws and Dad trusted that the Government were a) doing their best and b) trying to protect them.

Fancy trying to blame those same people for following legislation.

Honestly, if you chose to stay away rather than visit a relative in need because the govt told you to then you are as bad as Boris and his lies..because you both lack empathy and humanity

Utterly ridiculous thing to say. We stayed away because we didn't want to risk their lives and health. It doesn't mean we ignored them. If you don't understand that, it is you who is totally lacking in empathy and humanity.

But apart from being unsteady on his feet my father was as healthy as a horse.

The thing you don’t seem to be understanding is how many people had conditions that made them vulnerable, and how many seemingly strong people died anyway. People had to make very difficult decisions unless, apparently, they are Boris Johnson who delegates that kind of thing (children, wallpaper bills, parking tickets - it’s a long list) to the little people.

I didn't break the law. My DF died in 2015 so my example was completely hypothetical

So much easier to deal with hypothetical problems.

":12ohfourfoxache

Ismail Mohamed Abdulwahab was a 13 year old child

He died - alone - in hospital. Probably terrified, probably in pain and undoubtedly suffering

His own parents were not allowed to sit at his deathbed as he passed"
This bears repeating

@Poetrypatty

It's a joke that the PM ordered an investigation into the Downing Street parties but was at this big party. He takes us for fools.

YABU. How on earth is Boris supposed to know which parties, gatherings and other events he happened to pass through at that time, he had only very recently recovered from a very serious illness and it is little surprise that many people needed his inspirational leadership and so wanted to see him in person at parties.

Move on.

Remember Keir Starmer took a knee.

The only thing that surprises me about all these parties is that they had to bring their own booze and it wasn't supplied by the tax payer.

@merrymouse

I didn't break the law. My DF died in 2015 so my example was completely hypothetical

So much easier to deal with hypothetical problems.

That's true of course. BJ is despicable and should resign may I emphasize. The rules were Draconian but they were seized upon by jobsworths and the media and ramped up to a hysterical level

Yes and what are the chances of getting people to follow any public health infectious disease warning in the future?

I am surprised it was a BYOB. That must have made them think they were real philanthropists.

I couldn't give my baby son a proper funeral due to restrictions, a month after the party in May 2020. Bojo can go swivel!

The BYOB was clearly cynical. Otherwise the civil servants would have to declare the food and drink they received as taxable benefits.

Derxa thinks we were all ' hysterical ' for following the rules that the government told us to follow and people were arrested and fined for breaking those rules too. Many examples of people being told to move away from a park bench. Things locked down tightly under government orders. Shops made to shut , I could go on and on.
Words fail me , but then they did not have to watch a loved one die over FaceTime.

Most of the people venting here are responsible for the current government (whether they know it or not)

Sedai

@the80sweregreat

Derxa thinks we were all ' hysterical ' for following the rules that the government told us to follow and people were arrested and fined for breaking those rules too. Many examples of people being told to move away from a park bench. Things locked down tightly under government orders. Shops made to shut , I could go on and on. Words fail me , but then they did not have to watch a loved one die over FaceTime.

I meant that people in offialdom interpreted the rules in a rigid fashion.

My Grannie died the date this happened. We couldn't be with her. I will never get over it.

While she is at it, can Sue Gray tell us on here if Boris Johnson and Carrie were at this party in 2020 ? Why the ' inquiry ' into who was there ?
Why not just ask a few people ? 100 I think were there eating cheese and quaffing wine
Surely one of them saw him there or not ?
It's just farcical.

I think the government encouraging people to see laws as optional to save their own skin is particularly vile.

I don't see any signs of that at all. We are all still required to obey the law.

The point they are making is that the law didn't doesn't and never will apply to them. And don't you forget it

@the80sweregreat

It's one long party at number 10 it seems :( How many do they have in more normal times ?

They are so talented that it does not take them long to run the country and enrich their mates so have plenty of time for parties.