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I hope this is OK to post. Was this your husband yesterday ?

186 replies

Anordinarymum · 07/01/2022 19:23

I took my dog for a walk in Goldenacre Park yesterday late afternoon. The weather was not good, sleet and snow and cold.
There was nobody else in the park. We walked round the lake and up by the cafe and back round again.
As we approached the lake there was lots of bird noise. I saw a man with a toddler in an all in one suit and a young German Shepherd dog wearing some sort of harness running free
The man was openly encouraging the dog to run at the Swans. It chased the ducks and kept running to the edge of the lake.
The birds were going crazy.
I watched the guy and then I shouted across to him 'Don't let your dog do that mate'
He replied ' I am fully capable of looking after my own dog'
I said 'clearly not'
He did it again telling the dog to 'go on'
I shouted 'put your dog on the lead, this is how the wildlife gets killed'
He shouted back 'Fuck off Cunt' 'Go on fuck off you bitch'
There was nobody else there.
I had no choice but to walk away in case it escalated

Was this your husband with your little tot there in the afternoon?

I was no match for an aggressive man and I had to leave and go home. He was well built and wearing a woolly hat. The dog looked about 18 months maybe a little older. hard to say from a distance but it was quite large and running wild.

To say I was upset is an understatement. To say I felt impotent is another. I felt threatened so had to leave the bird life to this moron and his dog. There were signs everywhere about avian 'flu. How horrible to set your dog on sick animals like that.

OP posts:
Bouncer500 · 07/01/2022 22:12

Is this your husband?
What?
No.

TheOccupier · 07/01/2022 22:13

Jesus, women are not responsible for every shit thing men do even if we happen to be married to them!

Next time your see someone in charge of a tiny child using a large dangerous dog to attack wildlife while using abusive and threatening language, fucking call 999.

MidgeKiller1 · 07/01/2022 22:16

Report the incident to the RSPCA?

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laidbacklife · 07/01/2022 22:17

A lot of women in here who seem to think it’s completely reasonable to swear at other people in public and in front of young children. Sad really and says more about their life than anyone else’s.

NewMessageFrom · 07/01/2022 22:17

@WonderfulYou

And if it was someone's husband then what? You want a MNer to take responsibility for the arsehole behaviour of her dh?

If it was my partner I would absolutely want to know and never let him around me, my child or my dog ever again!

Riiiight, so you would take the word of a random poster on an anonymous forum, about a man with a toddler and a dog over your own partner who you have probably been with at least a couple of years if you have a toddler with.

By the way, i saw your partner mug a granny and run off with her pension.

Mamamia7962 · 07/01/2022 22:17

Bleujay - Only people of a certain age will get your joke! 😁

EllaVaNight · 07/01/2022 22:24

Know your place, Anordinarymum, stay silent, be a good quiet woman, never question a man. I don't think anyone apart from you has said that. From a safety aspect, it isn't a good idea to shout at strangers. I'm sure everyone including the op wants her to be safe.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/01/2022 22:28

There is no proof this was his or the dogs intent. “Running at” and “chasing” are the exact same things that sheep dogs do to sheep with zero intent to harm

And it is also what non-sheepdogs do to sheep and cause abortions, still births, suffocation from falling onto their backs and if they are fast enough results in the sheep having their faces and throats ripped apart, ending in dogs finding themselves perfectly legally at the business end of a 12 bore.

br1anmay · 07/01/2022 22:29

@Bluebluemoon

Yes, the second comment likely irked him, but speaking to anybody like that (man or woman) is not justifiable in any way

This. I'm leaving this thread now as it's actually shocked me how many people seem to think this man was well within his rights to act this way. It's frankly disturbing.

Absolutely @Bluebluemoon - it's disturbing and totally depressing!
Jijithecat · 07/01/2022 22:31

@EllaVaNight

Know your place, Anordinarymum, stay silent, be a good quiet woman, never question a man. I don't think anyone apart from you has said that. From a safety aspect, it isn't a good idea to shout at strangers. I'm sure everyone including the op wants her to be safe.
OP says they shouted across which is different to shouting at. And you would never shout at a stranger? If for example someone is walking towards you down a narrow alleyway whilst looking at their phone and were about to walk into you, you wouldn't utter a word? You'd let them walk into you? You'd walk back the way you came from?
EmpressCixi · 07/01/2022 22:34

@SmallPrawnEnergy
If you think an appropriate reaction to “shouting” please stop terrorising animals is to call someone a cunt and a bitch ^in front of their own children” then god fucking help us all, and your own poor children.

OP never said “please”. She started the shouting and belittling with the “mate” and “clearly not” snarky bits. I would definitely have told her to fuck off. The cunt and bitch is not appropriate I never said it wast u have said it is not threatening and she had to know a fuck off was in the offing by continuing to shout at him.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 07/01/2022 22:37

I think OP shouted because the man was a distance away, possibly the other side of the lake. He was breaking the law, endangering animals as well as setting his child an appalling example, and abusing the woman who dared to try to stop him. Like other posters here, I'm dismayed that so many MNers think there's nothing wrong with that.

Hunderland · 07/01/2022 22:44

YABU - definitely should be on FB. That park is over 200 miles away from me Confused

tearinghairout · 07/01/2022 22:48

It's actually against the law to allow your dog to harrass wild birds.

EmpressCixi · 07/01/2022 22:59

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

I think OP shouted because the man was a distance away, possibly the other side of the lake. He was breaking the law, endangering animals as well as setting his child an appalling example, and abusing the woman who dared to try to stop him. Like other posters here, I'm dismayed that so many MNers think there's nothing wrong with that.
How was he “breaking the law” and “endangering animals” as zero ducks or swans were harmed?

OP was afraid they might be harmed or killed, so she shouted at him to stop his dog running about. He said he’s capable of managing his dog. She shouted back clearly not- which was rude and incorrect because again no ducks or swans had actually been harmed. She then shouts at him again that this is how wildlife get killed and put the dog on a lead.

That’s when a fuck off is entirely appropriate. The cunt and bitch not appropriate but hey ho, her having a go at him twice wasn’t really appropriate either.

And despite her fears of a swan or duck massacre...again no wildlife was harmed at all. None. The dog stayed off the lead and attacked nothing.

So what law was broken? What wildlife was endangered? If you still think this, do you understand you will be reporting the dog in question as a dangerous dog. A dog that was endangering wildlife and running threateningly about. The result would be this dog being killed and for what? Because the OP was a rude shouty busybody that got mortally offended when she was told to fuck off so now shes going to report to the police this non incident where no wildlife were actually harmed, but she truly was so afraid they might be, by that vicious dog.

Don’t condemn an innocent dog to death.

Loopzy · 07/01/2022 23:01

OP I would find your local WCO and report

www.westyorkshire.police.uk/about-us/our-departments/wildlife-crime/wildlife-crime

ginghamstarfish · 07/01/2022 23:10

Perhaps he should take his stupid dog off the lead through a field of cows ...

EllaVaNight · 07/01/2022 23:14

Jijithecat I don't really understand what point you're trying to make. I've been in a very abusive relationship and nearly died at the hands of a man which has made me extra cautious (I realise you probably think that's pathetic but I don't really care). I'd shout across to someone if they were in danger or something. But I wouldn't shout at/across someone calling them mate then giving a snippy response because I'm well aware of how violent men can be. I wouldn't want the op or anyone else to put themselves in danger and would much prefer them to contact the appropriate authority.

1forAll74 · 07/01/2022 23:19

Shame that you couldn't take a photo of him. and posted it up somewhere,, but that would have been risky, with a nasty uncouth man to deal with.

Danja2010 · 07/01/2022 23:19

Empress C.
No dog would be put down if reported for harassing wildlife. Your comment is ridiculous. You can’t know if any duck or swan was harmed from the stress. It is not legal what he did. I would have shouted at him as well. Does the british public look away when a wrong is committed ? I am with those that are shocked at the responses here and the vitriol against the poster. If a dog is out of control and repeatedly harasses wildlife it needs to be on lead. Not encouraged. I have two dogs and if they have a go at a swan or duck they are put on lead and nesting season they must be on lead if they are near wildlife.

EllaVaNight · 07/01/2022 23:22

I am also a firm believer that dogs should be on leads at all times in public. The type of owners to just let them off the lead always have the mindset of "they're friendly/have never hurt anyone". When the fact is you can never fully trust an animal as who knows what may scare them in future. Our family dog was 15 when they bit my sister. Never had any sort of aggression from them before but it was a reminder that sometimes animals get spooked for no reason causing them to bite/attack.

A dog ran across a very busy road near us the other day because their owners had taken them off the lead in the forest which opens up to said busy road. They were laughing between themselves about it. I bet they wouldn't have been laughing if someone hit it.

lightisnotwhite · 07/01/2022 23:25

@Danja2010

It is not legal to harass wildlife ...working dog or no. Absolutely wrong what he was doing. Maybe contact a local swan society, they may take an interest.
Funny that’s it’s ok when it’s a cat though. Decimation of wildlife is acceptable when it’s small birds then?
HepzibahGreen · 07/01/2022 23:26

The cunt and bitch not appropriate but hey ho, her having a go at him twice wasn’t really appropriate either.
This is where modern life depresses me. A woman telling a man not to let his dog terrorise swans is not equivalent to a man saying “ fuck off cunt”. In front of his child. Christ. What else do you people excusing this accept from the men in your life? If it was my husband I would divorce the nasty bastard. Shameful.

Lou98 · 07/01/2022 23:37

I watched the guy and then I shouted across to him 'Don't let your dog do that mate'
He replied ' I am fully capable of looking after my own dog'
I said 'clearly not'
He did it again telling the dog to 'go on'
I shouted 'put your dog on the lead, this is how the wildlife gets killed

I don't agree with him letting his dogs run at the birds and do always feel that dogs should be on leads around wildlife (I have two myself) but honestly, I don't know what reaction you were expecting by shouting "don't let your dog do that" - you could politely explained about the swans being killed etc without phrasing it as telling him what to do. He also then ignored you after your sarky reply of "clearly not" so instead of leaving it there you decided to shout at him again - then you were worried about him being aggressive??
If you were that worried you shouldn't have repeatedly had a go at him. No he shouldn't have swore at you but he already replied to you, then tried ignoring you and you kept shouting over to him 🙄

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 07/01/2022 23:57

EmpressCixi, do you genuinely believe the law is happy for dogs to chase and harass wildfowl up till the moment a swan drops dead, at which point it then suddenly becomes a crime? That wouldn't make much sense.

From the Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs:
www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/protection_of_swans_from_attack
All wild birds are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, which implements the EU Wild Birds Directive in Great Britain. Under Section 1 of the 1981 Act it is an offence to intentionally kill, injure or take any wild bird.

With regard to dogs attacking swans, or the wilful failure of a dog owner to prevent their dog from attacking a swan, a court does have the power, under the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, to impose a muzzling order on a dog of any type which it judges actually or potentially dangerous. In addition, the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 makes it a criminal offence to allow an unmuzzled ferocious dog to be off a lead in a street, park or open space. It is also an offence to allow any dog to attack or menace any person or animal.