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Fucking dogs!

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Dogscanteatonions · 17/11/2021 20:41

I am so fucking done with dogs

I am sick of being jumped all over by dogs when I'm out running. I always slow to a walk when a dog approaches, I stand still if they seem aggressive. I have lost count of how many dogs that have jumped up on me and have made me muddy, left scratches from their nails on my arms and thighs
or ripped/pulled my clothing. I'm actually very lucky never to have been bitten.
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I am so fucking fed up of avoiding piles of dog shit - on some of the routes I run or walk I can count up to a dozen piles just left on the path.

I am so fucking fed up of my neighbour's dogs barking. I can't complain as they are the kind of people who will make my life hell but on the regular occasions they are out they bark CONSTANTLY. Sometimes all night long.

I am fed up of having to pass a neighbour's house where they let their dog shit in the front garden and don't clear out for days and days. I walk past daily and it stinks to high heaven.

I am fucking fed up of dogs in cafes, pubs and restaurants. I, like many people are allergic and it leaves me sneezing for hours and hours. One pub we were in you literally had to clamber over 6 dogs to get to the bar.

Now today on here there are loads of people saying they think it's ok to put their dog shit in someone else's bin.

This is even without the terrible dog attacks that happen.

I know this will rile entitled dog owners but seriously has anyone else just fucking had enough?

(Ps my current username came from a thread where a poster's dinner of cottage pie had been given to the dog where everyone piled on to say dogs can't eat onions. I don't have a dog 🤣)

OP posts:
BlueTouchPaper · 19/11/2021 09:13

Not sure that putting dogs down (which would be the only other option)

What about not breeding them in the first place? It's the demand for these dogs that drive this.

Nyxly · 19/11/2021 09:26

@BlueTouchPaper

Not sure that putting dogs down (which would be the only other option)

What about not breeding them in the first place? It's the demand for these dogs that drive this.

Well there's that option.

But as you know, the dog I was talking about was already here. Already bred. So the dog was referring to was either a pet or working or pts? Working isn't going to happen with her, you think pets are unnatural so that leaves PTS. As I said the only alternative to being a pet would be pts. Not the answer.

I have said several times the breeding of designer dogs is awful. And shouldn't happen. But i am not going to refuse one from the rescue, that I know I can help.

As what do you class as working? Some dogs are great at helping people with mental health issues or challenges. Do you class that as working?

My working spaniel is amazing at predicting ds meltdowns (he is autistic) and massively reducing them. She wasn't trained for it but does it anyway. Would you class that as working or not? Or is that pet territory?

You are also working on the presumption that working dog owners are ALWAYS responsible owners. Never cruel, never neglectful, never leave then in bad conditions. Yet, the 2 rescues I am involved with see loads of dogs from working homes that are mistreated, fearful and unhealthy. That's not natural at all. Which version of 'working' is its natural state?

And how far back are you going to say that working a dog is natural for it? 100 years a thousand? Where's the lime between 'people using training and breeding dogs for x purpose and natural' to 'unnatural'.

Dogs didn't arrive on the planet ready to work for humans. We bred, trained, interacted and forced it on them for many years. So maybe working them isn't natural either. It's just what they are bred for. Nor different to what per dogs are bred for.

So I still couldn't agree that working - natural. Pet - unnatural.

Kikkomam · 19/11/2021 09:32

working is possibly less natural tbh. Dogs are social animals and enjoy human company.

hotmeatymilk · 19/11/2021 09:48

I do think growing up in a household with happy, well-looked after dogs can be really beneficial to children's well being. They learn they don't always come first, dog needs feeding and walking as a priority. They can learn empathy. They probably less likely to grow up with the hysterical attitude of some on here.
Biscuit

ThousandsOfTulips · 19/11/2021 10:02

@Kikkomam

Omg

This is still rumbling on.

All these out of control constantly barking dogs, taking down toddlers, running in packs and looking at mumsnetters in a funny way

It's not remotely funny when a dog attacks a small child. Your comment is disgusting.
Kikkomam · 19/11/2021 10:05

Well I meant knocking over, not attacking, and I don't believe it happens very often at all anyway.

Kikkomam · 19/11/2021 10:05

@hotmeatymilk

I do think growing up in a household with happy, well-looked after dogs can be really beneficial to children's well being. They learn they don't always come first, dog needs feeding and walking as a priority. They can learn empathy. They probably less likely to grow up with the hysterical attitude of some on here. Biscuit
How sad for you that you find my comment trolling. It's absolutely true.
hotmeatymilk · 19/11/2021 10:07

How sad for you that you can’t see you’re implying children in dog-free households don’t learn empathy or the prioritisation of needs. It can be equally beneficial to wellbeing to grow up without dogs. You’re a dog person, fine: but you’re demonstrating a real lack of empathy, so it obviously hasn’t worked on you has it?

RobinPenguins · 19/11/2021 10:09

How sad for you that you find my comment trolling. It's absolutely true.

Your last sentence undermined everything you’d previously written. Also thrilled to hear DC with severe allergies are condemned to an adulthood of hysteria, selfishness and lack of empathy due to not growing up with a dog in their house 🙄

ThousandsOfTulips · 19/11/2021 10:14

@Kikkomam

Well I meant knocking over, not attacking, and I don't believe it happens very often at all anyway.
It's happened to both of my children in the last year.
ThousandsOfTulips · 19/11/2021 10:17

A dog running at a small child and knocking them over is attacking them. It's very frightening for them. One took the hat of my child's head. The next time another dog was on top of my other child having knocked him to the ground. Both times the dog ran at them from a long distance away, owner miles behind with absolutely no control. Both children are now absolutely terrified of dogs as a result. It is very common and it's totally unacceptable. Surely you can understand why things like this make those of us who were indifferent to dogs actively dislike them?

RobinPenguins · 19/11/2021 10:19

@Kikkomam

Well I meant knocking over, not attacking, and I don't believe it happens very often at all anyway.
It happens regularly. And it can be really upsetting for small children who don’t understand what’s happening to have a fucking huge (relative to their size) slobbering furry thing knocking them to the floor without warning.
Kikkomam · 19/11/2021 10:20

You can dislike them, of course, I wouldn't dream of attempting to make you like them. Having them shot and pts I don't agree with, no.

Kikkomam · 19/11/2021 10:22

@hotmeatymilk

How sad for you that you can’t see you’re implying children in dog-free households don’t learn empathy or the prioritisation of needs. It can be equally beneficial to wellbeing to grow up without dogs. You’re a dog person, fine: but you’re demonstrating a real lack of empathy, so it obviously hasn’t worked on you has it?
People read what they want to read. I do think growing up in a household with happy, well-looked after dogs can be really beneficial to children's well being

It doesn't say children will be damaged by not having dogs.

ThousandsOfTulips · 19/11/2021 10:24

@Kikkomam

You can dislike them, of course, I wouldn't dream of attempting to make you like them. Having them shot and pts I don't agree with, no.
I haven't suggested they should be shot or pts. Hmm I'm saying they should be on leads in public places, properly trained or taken away from the owners if they aren't, and trained to defecate on their own property. There should also be specific areas where dogs are allowed rather than it being a default that they are so that any limitations are placed on the person who chose to get a pet, not on those who are allergic to/ afraid of those pets or trying to prevent their children being attacked and traumatised again.
Spidey66 · 19/11/2021 10:25

Dogs rock.

I rarely see poo in my area....the vast majority of owners pick up.

Kikkomam · 19/11/2021 10:27

What happens to them if they can't be trained to shit in their own backyard?

ThousandsOfTulips · 19/11/2021 10:29

@Kikkomam

What happens to them if they can't be trained to shit in their own backyard?
Apparently it is very easy to do.

That's like saying what happens to them if they can't be trained in other ways that are necessary for them not to be a nuisance or a danger. Untrained/ antisocial/ potentially dangerous dogs should not be in public places.

Kikkomam · 19/11/2021 10:30

Well no, it's not the same. It would be the same as telling a human they could only have a poo at certain times in their own loo.

hotmeatymilk · 19/11/2021 10:32

Well no, it's not the same. It would be the same as telling a human they could only have a poo at certain times in their own loo.
It wouldn’t at all be the same, what with humans being humans and dogs very specifically not being humans. They don’t have the same rights and nor should they.

Kikkomam · 19/11/2021 10:32

I mean, my labrador won't poo on the lead. He prefers to go somewhere on his own in long grass by a hedge, but if he really needed a poo and we were on a pavement then he'd just...poo. What happens to him in your Brave New World of dog ownership?

Kikkomam · 19/11/2021 10:33

@hotmeatymilk

Well no, it's not the same. It would be the same as telling a human they could only have a poo at certain times in their own loo. It wouldn’t at all be the same, what with humans being humans and dogs very specifically not being humans. They don’t have the same rights and nor should they.
You do understand that dogs are living beings with digestive systems? I'm getting worried that you may actually believe that they are mechanical or something.
hotmeatymilk · 19/11/2021 10:35

And I’m a bit worried you’re equating dogs and humans repeatedly. You do understand they’re different and your dog isn’t a “fur baby”?

ThousandsOfTulips · 19/11/2021 10:35

@Kikkomam

Well no, it's not the same. It would be the same as telling a human they could only have a poo at certain times in their own loo.
Hardly. Humans do not shit on pavements. A better analogy would be the very reasonable expectation that humans use toilets.

Dogs do not need to be out of their own property for hours and hours like humans, they don't have jobs etc. So they can go to the toilet before they leave home.

ThousandsOfTulips · 19/11/2021 10:36

@Kikkomam

I mean, my labrador won't poo on the lead. He prefers to go somewhere on his own in long grass by a hedge, but if he really needed a poo and we were on a pavement then he'd just...poo. What happens to him in your Brave New World of dog ownership?
You train him to poo in your own garden before you take him for a walk.