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What will happen to that horse kicking piece of scum?! 🤬

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Frenchie4 · 08/11/2021 10:09

TRIGGER WARNING!!

Wtf have I just seen on Twitter?! I won't post a link, but you can Google it if you actually want to, although I should say it made me weep with rage!

Some absolutely vile excuse for a human being decided to kick and punch a horse for wandering off. It's shocking.

My blood is boiling! How dare they?! What will happen to them? Please someone tell me they will be at the very least, banned from ever owning an animal of any kind ever again.

What is the matter with people? Seriously need my faith restoring in humanity today.

Angry Angry

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PinkSyCo · 09/11/2021 08:41

Having her banned from keeping animals seems just and proportionate. Having her entire life trashed does not.

It should be a given that animal abusers are automatically banned from being around animals. But she also deserves punishment for making her horses life a misery (because you can bet your arse she does worse to the poor animal behind closed doors) don’t you think?

jollygreenpea · 09/11/2021 08:43

@CurlyGirlsMum

Please look at yourselves.

The hateful language used on this thread. The incitement to bully someone out of a job.

Yes she has done something wrong. Yes the law should follow processes.

I am genuinely shocked by the mob mentality and bullying on this thread. Some posters should be ashamed.

Agree with you, I said similar up thread and got deleted
TheFairyCaravan · 09/11/2021 08:44

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MorrisZapp · 09/11/2021 08:53

@PinkSyCo

Having her banned from keeping animals seems just and proportionate. Having her entire life trashed does not.

It should be a given that animal abusers are automatically banned from being around animals. But she also deserves punishment for making her horses life a misery (because you can bet your arse she does worse to the poor animal behind closed doors) don’t you think?

I have no idea what she does behind closed doors and neither do you. If there's evidence of criminal behaviour then let the legal processes do their job.
ginandbearit · 09/11/2021 08:58

Yes a pile on is unfotunate but understandable , but the more light shone on this kind of behviour the better...shame is no bad thing and if as another poster says the Cottesmore will.freeze her out all to the good ...and as a recruiting sargeant for anti hunt activity shes played a blinder .

operatinginstructions · 09/11/2021 08:59

@trumpisagit

I am suprised some horsey people are saying its not normal behaviour. It absolutely was 30 years ago, and I am not sure that much has changed. I think what is unusual is for it to be happening in public.

Horse racing is the worst in my opinion, but the orthodoxy of equestrianism is about suppressing horses natural instincts.

I used to love horse riding, but I no longer think its something people should do. There are very few horses and ponies who's natural disposition is suitable and the "breaking" process is smatterred with violence, which I witnessed repeatedly as a child/teenager among many horsey people.

I was lent a pony as a teenager who was inline to be shot as he had reared and injured a child.

Bertie was lovely but not suitable for children, luckily my parents knew nothing about horses so were just happy to let me have a free loan.

I think we would all be shocked to see how some horses and ponies are "broken in" and treated when out of sight.

Not normal behaviour from me, a horse owner for 45 years. I would do the same to her if she had done that to my horse.

I had a problem with loading one of my horses many years ago, probably 20 years ago, she did in fact bugger off down the road after escaping from me, further and faster than the horse on this video.

I didn't resort to being a horrible bully, I paid a man called Michael Peace to come to see us. Solved in a morning, with complete kindness, never had a problem with her for the rest of her travelling years.

Her behaviour is never going to be acceptable to most people. I hope she is prosecuted.

oakleaffy · 09/11/2021 09:03

@BligeMe

Apart from the cruelty, what an idiot this woman is. She punishes the horse for allowing itself to be caught. As a PP has pointed out, horses do need a bit of discipline, else they can become dangerous, but she's not even administering discipline. She's got a rotten temper and is taking it out on the poor horse. Appalling.
Exactly. Barry Hook who schools and re- educates Driving horses says horses need “ Discipline” - but that “ Discipline is not hitting or smacking” If he has a bargy horse he will insist the horse waits calmly before being allowed to go on. Even if it takes an hour or more. He works wonders with horses who have had a hard time, or who have previously bolted in harness from fear. He is also very calm and patient.
SpinachIsAGatewayDrug · 09/11/2021 09:06

I think the fact that we have such a thing as the law is testament to it being part of general human nature to want to enact some sort of revenge when we see someone committing such an abhorrent act.

Collectively, we allow the law to do it instead because we recognise that the red mist that descends is not the right way to handle it. We know that justice must always keep a cooler head than the voice inside us that rages when we see injustice. However, tempting that voice is.

The biggest 'benefits' (albeit at the expense of the poor horse) here are that such public exposure will continue to keep people against hunting and makes it very clear to all that physical violence as a way to 'train' animals is no longer accepted by everyone.

The more those messages are socialised, the better.

PinkSyCo · 09/11/2021 09:06

I have no idea what she does behind closed doors and neither do you. If there's evidence of criminal behaviour then let the legal processes do their job.

I think, just by observing the nonchalant reactions of the people around her, that it’s pretty obvious she’s assaulted that horse many times before. As for you advising the general public not to get involved, if it wasn’t for them this vile woman’s cruelty wouldn’t have been brought to light in the first place.

oakleaffy · 09/11/2021 09:08

I see the other thread on this horse abuser has been removed.

Can’t think why?

A horse was shown being kicked and slapped by an ill tempered woman on a fox hunt, and a direct link to the violence was shown.

TheRealHousewife · 09/11/2021 09:26

This was reported in the news. I felt physically sick and anxious about what I witnessed. It was shocking and very upsetting. It was criminal how she treated the horse. She totally lost her temper and took it out on the horse. It was her that was out of control, not the horse.

I hope justice is served.

TheRealHousewife · 09/11/2021 09:26

May I add not rtft as yet. Reading now.

UpThePodge · 09/11/2021 09:37

The authorities have to follow every inch of the law to get a prosecution, if they don't her union will hand them their arse
I suspect she will probably get suspended for bringing the school into disrepute too.
It's a long game but at least the horse will be safe now which for me is the best outcome

Bluntness100 · 09/11/2021 09:41

Will the horse be safe? I assume she still has it?

Mythroatisstillsore · 09/11/2021 09:49

That video is so distressing, I loathe the hunt with all my heart.

UpThePodge · 09/11/2021 09:53

@Bluntness100

Will the horse be safe? I assume she still has it?
I think so, it will show she's put the welfare of her horse first and is showing remorse I'll bet they'll need a vet check too Just my thoughts obviously
Bluntness100 · 09/11/2021 09:55

I’m sorry but if she has the horse it is not safe, no way round it.

UpThePodge · 09/11/2021 09:59

Sorry @Bluntness100 I meant, I think it will be safe. IMO she'd be very foolish if it isnt stabled away from her

treguffin · 09/11/2021 10:15

I hate the hounding of this woman but I also hate what she did so I am conflicted.

I can't imagine kicking a horse or slapping it that many times around the head, unless I had completely lost my mind.

I'm going to say again I am in my mid 50s, have ridden since I was 4, went hunting with my family in my teens. I've had horses and ponies for about 30 years now. We don't hunt but do a lot of pony club and competing.I have never, ever seen anyone treat their horse like that, it is absolutely not a normal occurrence. The sabs are very annoying when they film people and children legitimately going about their business but this will justify it now I guess.

treguffin · 09/11/2021 10:18

If he has a bargy horse he will insist the horse waits calmly before being allowed to go on.
Even if it takes an hour or more

how does he insist? I presume by putting pressure on the leadrope. Of course you don't need to smack a bargy horse.

Bluntness100 · 09/11/2021 10:38

I think the thing is if you watch the video she’s clearly out of control. Her anger has over taken her and she chooses violence. It’s not a slap or something to bring the pony into line, she’s assaulting it in anger. I think that’s what is distressing people.

I’ve a temper on me, but I’ve never in my life violently attacked another living thing, punching and kicking like that, much less an animal or a child, and this is a defenceless animal she’s assaulting and publicly, and the pony pretty much just takes it, like it’s a learned behaviour.

Every single case of animal cruelty needs to be treated seriously and questions need to be asked if it is not. But my view is the type of people who choose violence against defenceless animals or children will just continue to do it behind closed doors.

treguffin · 09/11/2021 10:40

@Bluntness100

I think the thing is if you watch the video she’s clearly out of control. Her anger has over taken her and she chooses violence. It’s not a slap or something to bring the pony into line, she’s assaulting it in anger. I think that’s what is distressing people.

I’ve a temper on me, but I’ve never in my life violently attacked another living thing, punching and kicking like that, much less an animal or a child, and this is a defenceless animal she’s assaulting and publicly, and the pony pretty much just takes it, like it’s a learned behaviour.

Every single case of animal cruelty needs to be treated seriously and questions need to be asked if it is not. But my view is the type of people who choose violence against defenceless animals or children will just continue to do it behind closed doors.

Yes that is clearly a really bad temper tantrum. I mean, the pony was a bit annoying, but her response was completely disproportionate. Hope she looks into HRT after this!

If you've ever paid as much in vet bills as I have over the years then you wouldn't ever dream of kicking a pony and perhaps causing it to be lame. She had clearly absolutely lost it.

HeartvsBrain · 09/11/2021 10:55

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4foxsakes · 09/11/2021 11:06

Wtf do you expect from someone who enjoys hunting down foxes?

And anyone in the comments who buys meat from supermarkets can f right off with their sanctimonious shit. They're all complicit in animal cruelty.

I'd say anyone who buys meat at all but I'm not in the mood for arsey ignorant comments from sanctimonious people who think selected animals just love being slaughtered.

Peacocking · 09/11/2021 12:01

I agree totally that this is just awful. What I do find even harder to stomach is that anyone who eats meat, eggs or dairy pays for other people to treat animals in a worse way than this on their behalf.

If you're upset by this, then maybe have a think about the animal that's filled your plate today. Watch some films and educate yourself about the life and treatment of farmed creatures (who are every bit as sentient, intelligent and biddable as this horse) and consider how it compares to this film of the woman kicking her horse.

If you buy animal products, you are paying for violence towards animals and it leaves no room for criticism towards this woman