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Covid, twatty DH and how my life has been destroyed

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Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 08:30

I had a bad pregnancy and was off sick for ages, then on maternity, ended up getting managed out (aka got rid of) because I needed more time off due to my health. I had surgery to fix some issues. DC was approaching two when I felt recovered enough to get a new job. Everything was lined up.

Then Covid happened. Nurseries were closed. Family childcare was unavailable. Someone had to stay at home with DC. Of course in the 2.5 years since I got pregnant, DH had been promoted. So his logic was that we needed to keep his stable well paid job in preference to me starting a new, lower paid job with no security. So I had to give up my job offer and ended up bearing the burden of childcare through repeated lockdowns.

Finally nurseries reopened - but due to the pandemic, places were in short supply. My job offer was long gone. Employers still had staff on furlough and working from home, their finances were tight, so they were cautious about hiring. At this point I’d been out of work for over 3 years. DH got promoted again.

This was the point at which the problems started. DH started to whinge that everything was still volatile, bubbles were bursting and kids were having to isolate, so someone needed to be available to look after DC. And of course he was so important now, he couldn’t possibly do it.

I got a job and arranged a childminder for pick ups and drop offs. Childminder got Covid so DC had to isolate for 10 days, my new employer was not pleased. Then DC got chickenpox so that was more time off work. Covid at nursery again, more time off - and I got fired because I wasn’t able to attend work reliably. During this time DH wouldn’t take a single day off work. This is when he started to say “we can’t put the job of the highest earner at risk, when you earn the same as me I’ll take equal responsibility for DC”.

Of course I’m never going to catch up with him now because I’m four years behind career-wise. So that basically means all childcare has been dumped on me. And if all the childcare is on me I’m never going to be able to catch up am I?

So let’s skip past the fact that I’m angry, resentful, hate DH and often go to bed at 8pm to avoid him. Someone has to parent my DC so I’m currently looking for a job that can fit around that and offer flexibility for sick days. My previous career won’t. So I asked DH to help me assess my options and figure out what I could do that would suit our current circumstances. He was really nasty and said no, it’s not his responsibility to sort out a job for me, he can’t tell me what to do. I said fine - fuck it, I’ll just go back to my career then and you’ll have to deal with the fallout in terms of childcare. Of course he’s not happy with that either, I’m a nasty selfish bitch, and he doesn’t deserve that when he’s working hard to provide for us all.

Honestly, what am I supposed to do here? I have more chance of holding down a job now that the 10 day isolation is no longer required for close contacts. But I’m just getting zero help. He’s staying later and later at work, he’s gone from finishing at 5, to 6, and now he isn’t leaving the office till 6.30. So that puts all of the cooking on my shoulders too because he isn’t home in time. And now he’s refusing to do any grocery shopping or meal planning because I’ll be cooking so apparently I need to sort it, he’s already doing his share by working.

Honestly I’m on the verge of divorcing him to force him to take 50% custody. I agreed to have a baby because we earned the same and would both work and share childcare. I didn’t sign up to be stuck with the whole lot and unable to work full-time just because he earns more.

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Dotdotlineline · 28/10/2021 09:14

Reading this and just can't believe how he is taking you for a complete fool! He builds himself a nice little career whilst the wife takes care of the home honestly it infuriates me. Do not allow this man to treat you like this any longer - it will never get better unless you leave him.

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SW1amp · 28/10/2021 09:16

There is a pretty good chance he will end up having an affair with someone at work to fulfil his emotional and sexual needs, while excusing it because (in his head) you're so cold and difficult to live with.

And what research is this amazing gem based on?
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Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 09:17

To be honest, researching jobs for you is 100% your responsibility
If he hadn’t put me in this situation by a.insisting on having a baby and b.being selfish then I wouldn’t need to research a new job. Also he’s supposed to support me when I need help. Whatever I end up doing will affect him and no doubt he’ll whinge if I choose something that doesn’t fit around his job. So I totally disagree - he had a large part in creating the problem so I think he should help with solving it.

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Walkaround · 28/10/2021 09:18

@Maiasaur - to be fair, you are not a good advert for what happens to employees with childcare problems. Your dh certainly sounds like he is being a selfish twat, but the way you describe your relationship, it sounds like you speak to each other in a deeply unconstructive, confrontational way, making it highly likely he will just continue to dig his heels in and try to bat away any suggestions of change. So, either your whole relationship is beyond repair, or you are both resentful of each other for different reasons and seeking some kind of counselling, or a different way of approaching important conversations, might help. Which do you think is the case? I would say you ought to be able to go back to your old career now and that your dh ought to be able to support you in that, and ought to be capable of realising that if you can both find a way to talk openly, kindly, calmly and non-resentfully to each other.

SW1amp · 28/10/2021 09:19

Ok, well if you’re at the point of anger where you’re referring to your own baby as ‘a problem he created’, I think you need to step away from the internet and seek out some help from an actual qualified therapist

This is about way, way more than your career and split of the mental load in your house

Brefugee · 28/10/2021 09:20

DH started to whinge that everything was still volatile, bubbles were bursting and kids were having to isolate, so someone needed to be available to look after DC. And of course he was so important now, he couldn’t possibly do it

well the situation sucks, but a roof over your head is important. Or did you really expect him to jack in a stable job so you could start a new, lower-paid one?

As for the rest of it - ditch him, ask for 50/50 childcare and go for it alone, rather than stay with him.

GoodGrief100 · 28/10/2021 09:21

@Maiasaur

To be honest, researching jobs for you is 100% your responsibility If he hadn’t put me in this situation by a.insisting on having a baby and b.being selfish then I wouldn’t need to research a new job. Also he’s supposed to support me when I need help. Whatever I end up doing will affect him and no doubt he’ll whinge if I choose something that doesn’t fit around his job. So I totally disagree - he had a large part in creating the problem so I think he should help with solving it.
Well, it takes 2 to have a baby so that's a moot point. Whilst he is supposed to support you, you should focus your energy on other and more important ways he should support you - childcare being the biggest. If he whinges, well you've already asked him for help so that's on him and tough luck.
Bexxe · 28/10/2021 09:21

Getting ready for all the shitty comments about to been thrown my way...

Minus the nasty snarky comments aside that are uncalled for - it seems the sensible logical position for the highest earner to remain in their stable job for the stability of the household?

I can see why your itching to go back to work, as i think i would go insane not working for that long aswell, but in a purely logical sense - i feel what he is sayign is making sense.
Both me and my partner lost our jobs through covid at some point, and although we dont have children, it was a fucking nightmare. I wouldnt wish the stress on anyone.
So to me, having your DP stay in his stable job with promotions hes managed to get throughout covid (not something ive ever heard from other people, just people losing their jobs) makes financial sense?

If he was to take equal time off to you, he may risk his job depending on how fussy they are. So what good would it be to have both of you losing your job so he can take on 50% of the childcare?

Whilst i dont envy your position, and definantely disagree with the nasty remarks and lack of support - i am confused why your so angry at your DH providing financial stability during a time when everythings goign to shit?
(also - nasty remarks and shitty comments from him could be annoyance that whilst hes worked hard through covid and done what he feels is the right thing, your not acknowledging it - only causing more issues in his eyes)

Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 09:21

There is a pretty good chance he will end up having an affair with someone at work
Honestly I’m past caring. I’m interested in meeting my DC’s needs, and meeting my own needs for being able to work and not being a skivvy. I couldn’t give a shit about his sexual or emotional needs, they are way down my list of priorities.

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Phobiaphobic · 28/10/2021 09:22

@SW1amp

There is a pretty good chance he will end up having an affair with someone at work to fulfil his emotional and sexual needs, while excusing it because (in his head) you're so cold and difficult to live with.

And what research is this amazing gem based on?
Confused

I'm sorry. We need to back up comments with research studies now? Get a grip!
SmellyOldOwls · 28/10/2021 09:23

If you don't like him or want to be with him any more then you should leave him. No point flogging a dead horse.

MajesticallyAwkward · 28/10/2021 09:23

@Maiasaur

men need to do their fair share so that employers treat mums and dads in the workplace equally This is the problem. Whenever there’s a childcare issue it’s always “why can’t your wife handle it?” And when I was in hospital for surgery and had nobody to look after DC they said “why can’t your wife’s mother handle it?”!
That is appalling, employers have to be held accountable for the sexist discrimination.

My DH is luckily very much aware that the DC are ours and we have a 50/50 approach to most things- if one is ill we either split the time or one of us takes it off then next time the other does. This half term our childcare fell apart so we've split the week- DH took a couple of days annual leave and I've used flexi time to fill the other gaps. This is only possible because his, and his employers, attitude and understanding of real world childcare and life is where it should be.

Yanbu to leave him, at all. But with his shitty attitude I wouldn't expect him to take any responsibility for your dc, or even pay maintenance willingly. You can get your independence back, find a job you can do (wfh is a good option to work around childcare, with flexible hours/flexitime you can make life a lot easier), depending on income you may qualify for UC and help with childcare costs. If your DC is 3 you've got the 30 hours funded childcare to reduce costs too.
If you ahead do it with your eyes open, assume nothing will change in terms of childcare or his shitty attitude but it's a huge step for you to take charge.

userg5647 · 28/10/2021 09:23

He works with men who don’t have kids or who have a housewife. He works for rich men whose wives can afford nannies. He feels he can’t possibly take time off for childcare because they’ll be angry and critical.

My husband is in the military, that has got to be one of the most sexist environments to work in due to the fact so many have stay at home or part time spouses due to the mobility of the role and cheap housing provided. It's not been easy but I've demanded my DH stand up for me, especially not easy in a rank structure and he's not very senior. He hasn't always been able to, just last month a noddy course was deemed more important than my (genuinely MUCH more important) business trip and I lost out. However, generally, we both put our foot down when needed and DH does do some drop offs/pick ups and he's easily done 50% of the sickness days over the years. Also most of the school holidays as he'll have more leave (when not deployed, deployments take priority over all else- fair enough).

Men will ALWAYS find excuses, women will often defend them as can be seen on this thread, but I guarantee your DH could do more than he's doing now. If he doesn't see you as an equal partner and respect you, you'll always be deprioritised.

Gettingthereslowly2020 · 28/10/2021 09:24

Yes absolutely leave him but play the long game if you can, even if it's just a few months or so. Get a little part time job to fit around the kids (that will give you a recent employment reference) and start an online course to keep your skills up to date and lead to a better paid job with more hours. Start squirrelling away money (get cashback on supermarket shopping) and buy clothes in bigger sizes for the kids to grow into. He sounds like the type of dickhead who will avoid paying child maintenance.

femfemlicious · 28/10/2021 09:25

Do you have a spare room. An idea is to outsource some of the housework and childcare. Why not get an au pair. It takes a village to raise a child. Since you can afford it, pay for help. Leaving him will not put you in a better position. Also you can go for marriage counselling to improve your relationship.

Grizzlydog · 28/10/2021 09:25

If you leave him he may not want the baby 50/50 and its not something that can be forced. It doesn't sound much like you want it either tbh.
Do either of you actually want to be a parent?
Can you get a full time nanny?

Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 09:26

If he was to take equal time off to you, he may risk his job
At this point I care about myself and my own achievements. I don’t care if he loses his job. Maybe he needs to take a lesser job so he can do his share.

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SW1amp · 28/10/2021 09:26

@Phobiaphobic

You can’t just make up random shit and pass it off as a factual ‘there is a good chance this will happen’ because it suits your LTB narrative

You have absolutely no basis to decide if there is a ‘good chance’ or ‘very little chance’ of it happening
Stop spouting shit!

DaisyNGO · 28/10/2021 09:27

@Capferret

On Sunday secretly pack a bag. Write a note. Monday morning get up super early and leave without your dc for a week. Let him be a parent. And sort out childcare. If you're on the verge of ltb you have nothing to lose.
don't do that but I was wondering, what happens if you tell DC you're off for the weekend with friends, tell him at the last minute - sounds like he won't hear it from them, does he spend any time with them - and then come back and say it's divorce or sort it out.

the only thing is, he is clearly more interested in his work than his DC, so he might be happy to hand it over to you 100% so you'd have to be okay with that.

IsThePopeCatholic · 28/10/2021 09:27

He’s a pompous prick. You’d be better off without him.

MiloAndEddie · 28/10/2021 09:28

Ok, how he spoke to you and the ridiculous comments aside, I don’t necessarily disagree with him about protecting the job you already have in the household.

I can totally understand you wanting to get back to work but it is an uncertain time at the moment and if his work really are as you describe then it can’t just be a case of him saying ‘I need the day off for childcare’ without there likely being done repercussions for him (legal or not).

Whilst it’s not what you necessarily want to do at the moment, could you look at evening work? Maybe a supermarket? You get done independence but you’re not reliant on outside childcare, he can do it when he’s home.

Thenosleepclub · 28/10/2021 09:28

I would divorce him too. My DH can be a right twat at times, and doesn't make a huge effort to give me space from the children. BUT he is my biggest cheerleader when it comes to my hopes, dreams, career. And despite me earning less than half of what he does, him being the main breadwinner and also having a more important job to society, he has taken parental leave when needed, booked annual leave, and worked from home in order to look after sick kids at times, or facilitate me working in the evening etc. That's what a partnership, a marriage is.
You would be better off divorcing and going to court to have it put down in writing when he is responsible for your child.

userg5647 · 28/10/2021 09:29

But it’s not a man / woman thing. * I used to be the main breadwinner in our house. I wouldn’t expect to come home and do housework / cooking etc if my dh was at home, not working. How is that team work?! Childcare at home, yes because you’re a family and I think spending time with your own children isn’t “childcare” but cooking etc I don’t see why the person working full time should have to come home and do all that as well as working if the other person isn’t working / doesn’t have health issues etc etc*? Not a feminist issue at all.

You're incredibly naive to think this isn't a feminist issue. The OP isn't asking her DH to do everything, she wants the opportunity to work too without all the burden of childcare, it takes 2 to have a baby, he does not get to choose to check out without discussion as to how they both want the family to run. Op wants to work, and frankly it's sensible as the relationship isn't going well and she's very vulnerable financially.

Who do you think cooks, cleans and does childcare when both parents are working full time?

MiloAndEddie · 28/10/2021 09:29

Ok I’ve just seen your latest post, that makes no sense I’m afraid. Bills still need paying.

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